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d3ik3n

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I like the look and feel of a warrior but the slow play style of the 2 hnder is very lack luster for me.

I also dont want to be a tank. I know in the first DA:O you could spec your SnS guy to be more dmg dealing and less tankie.

 

I figure with mixing talents amongst the different trees, if you went a str-cunning build, your crits would weaken your enemys, your attacks are pretty fast ( vs that of a 2 hnder) and your Shield slams would hit decently hard.

Ive not played the game all the way thru as of yet so I dont know if there is plate armor ( Heavy) that has str/cunning on it, or if that type of armor could be crafted?

 

Anyone have any thoughts? Advice?



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You can craft medium armors with tier3 materials that makes them open to all classes, then put cunning on them. Or you can just craft heavy armor with strength.

 

I've been using Iron Bull as a pseudo-dps SnS warrior. At level 22 he has:

 

1. payback strike+

2. lunge and slash+

3. shield bash+

4. war cry

5. bull rush+

6. horn of valor+

7. combat roll

8. challenge+ (you can use mark of the rift/rampage here, I play without focus abilities)

 

Cutting Words (Vanguard, +20% dmg vs. taunted targets)

All the reaver passives (no dragon rage)

Flow of Battle (2h tree, reduces cooldowns by 1 sec on crit).

 

He doesn't really compare to a rogue or proper 2h reaver in terms of damage, but he adds alot of support damage (35% from horn and 20% vs. taunted for the whole party), great detonations and insane guard damage. He regularly crits for 20k+ with shield bash on guard. Pay attention to your weapon's damage (not DPS) stat, longswords in particular usually have really high base damage, which is what your abilities take into account for damage calculations.

 

Oh and use +% damage per nearby enemy along with hidden blades masterworks. That's how you get those insane damage numbers. You can also go Champion and get To the Death+ for the insane damage buff (but you lose Reaver passives).

 

TL;DR SnS can work as buff monster + decent damage, the key is going heavy on none-spec trees.


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d3ik3n

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You can craft medium armors with tier3 materials that makes them open to all classes, then put cunning on them. Or you can just craft heavy armor with strength.

 

I've been using Iron Bull as a pseudo-dps SnS warrior. At level 22 he has:

 

1. payback strike+

2. lunge and slash+

3. shield bash+

4. war cry

5. bull rush+

6. horn of valor+

7. combat roll

8. challenge+ (you can use mark of the rift/rampage here, I play without focus abilities)

 

Cutting Words (Vanguard, +20% dmg vs. taunted targets)

All the reaver passives (no dragon rage)

Flow of Battle (2h tree, reduces cooldowns by 1 sec on crit).

 

He doesn't really compare to a rogue or proper 2h reaver in terms of damage, but he adds alot of support damage (35% from horn and 20% vs. taunted for the whole party), great detonations and insane guard damage. He regularly crits for 20k+ with shield bash on guard. Pay attention to your weapon's damage (not DPS) stat, longswords in particular usually have really high base damage, which is what your abilities take into account for damage calculations.

 

Oh and use +% damage per nearby enemy along with hidden blades masterworks. That's how you get those insane damage numbers. You can also go Champion and get To the Death+ for the insane damage buff (but you lose Reaver passives).

 

TL;DR SnS can work as buff monster + decent damage, the key is going heavy on none-spec trees.

Thats awesome information and advice. Thanks so much.

The play style of the SnS seems fast with alot of utility to it, I like that alot. Plus I feel BA when I shield bash a frozen target and the slow-mo cam kicks in. :)

Again, thanks for taking the time to lay all that out, really appreciated.

Now to get to work on my warrior :)


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You're welcome! It is indeed awesome. I love the mobility with Lunge and Slash and Bull Rush. Running with 2 SnS warriors (main tank + damage/support) and watching them charge together is epic.



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Mid to late game you can boost your criticals and Attack with Accessories, and of course some Tier 3 crafting.
I never tried but I wonder how it would go, I've been considering playing a SnS warrior but I wanted to have high DPS, as it was possible in DA2.

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The templar armor is the only heavy armor that adds Cunning or Dexterity. Other than that if you are going for Crit chance/damage your are better off with crafting weapon mods with offence slots using bear/great bear hides. The whole rogue T3 armor add a total of about 9-10% crit chance with the mods while a hilt on a weapon with 6 leather offence slots can add 11%. You also get a head piece from Wicked Eyes and Wicked Hearts that adds 13% crit chance plus some cunning Varric's Artificer passive add an other 5%.

 

So all in all if you want a kinda offensive sword and shield warrior I would go with Sturdy Battlemaster's Armor for str (Although I favor the Templar armor cause it look surprisingly good on dragonbone) with the +13% crit chance helm, +crit damage/chance and +attack on weapons/rings. Templar is the safest bet for an offensive sword and shield warrior while maintaining considerable defense and buffing your party. The reaver could also work but you would need an other warrior as tank till you get used to it. 

 

I personally think that the best party is a warrior that can tank (not necessarily defense focused) Varric, Cole and one of the mages preferably Solas speced into Spirit/Rift/Lightning for support. The assassin's passives (crit when going out of stealth, stealth reset on kill) works wonders with Artificer reduced cd times on party crits you can also contribute to that if you go for crit chance yourself. Solas is hands down the best control mage and the best combo generation machine.

 

Note : if you decide to go with that party comp you should spec to coup de grace that adds 30% damage while the enemy is stunned or knocked down and believe me that will happen A LOT. Good luck.