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JayD83

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Am I missing something or is this really how the game is?

So im on a mission atm and am near the end. All I need to do is close a rift but Im out of potions and my squad are all on 5 to 10% health!!

I cant seem to exit the area until I kill all remaining enemies and close the rift which is impossible to do with no potions.

Am I missing something here or do I really need to reload my last save thats a non auto all the way back by 5 hours.

 

If so that is terrible game design



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Avejajed

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You need to save more often, my friend.


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LightningPoodle

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Ummmm, sorry to say this but yes. You will have to reload. Or take your chances. You could do it. Who's in your party?



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Avejajed

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Where are you that you can't run? What mission? Try turning your difficulty level down for the rest of the fight too.



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Difficulty down

Focus on the rift, not the demons. Keep your PC on rift disrupt detail as much as possible (helps if you're a rogue or mage with the non-threat-drawing talents). Hopefully your mage has Dispel... use Dispel on the summoning circles to dissolve them before demons appear, otherwise have them casting Barrier on whoever is left standing. Disrupting the rift will damage and stun any demons around and weaken the rift itself so that it collapses sooner.

Are you setting up camps? They restore health and your potion supply.

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Save and save often.

 

Always make a save before entering an area that has a rift.

 

I hate it when you are blocked off from leaving an area. I assume this is a boss rift. Otherwise you could simply disengage and run away. I have done that numerous times when I've been getting my ass handed to me. I'll switch to the character nearest the exit and run away. Once out of the area, the rest of the party will appear.

 

And set up the tactics. I know they're not great but they're better than nothing. I'm now using my DW rogue + tank + Vivienne and Solas both as rift mages. Vivienne is set to defend Cassandra; Cassandra is set to defend Solas; and Solas is set to defend my character who focuses on closing the damned rift.

 

Oh, and make sure friendly fire is turned off. Turn down the difficulty. I'm not ashamed to be playing on casual. If there was an even easier level i'd be playing on that. I don't care about the combat stuff that much even though my builds turned out not to be that bad when I went to the strategy and combat page.



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You can also revive companions who drop, so while I'm sure this won't be easy...it might be possible (and yes, do turn down the difficulty if you must). Also, as ever, the onus is on the player to manually save regularly (when the option is available), in my opinion. You would be well advised to get into the habit of saving before going off on a major mission instead of relying on autosaves only, just in case things go sideways (because they can).



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Am I missing something or is this really how the game is?

So im on a mission atm and am near the end. All I need to do is close a rift but Im out of potions and my squad are all on 5 to 10% health!!

I cant seem to exit the area until I kill all remaining enemies and close the rift which is impossible to do with no potions.

Am I missing something here or do I really need to reload my last save thats a non auto all the way back by 5 hours.

 

If so that is terrible game design

 

 

In this case, use Tactics, micromanage each party member. Raise them instantly if they fall. 

 

In the future always have a Mage with Barriers and the Raise Party spell. Also Always have a dedicated tank. 


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A few years back, people would call the game challenging. Now it's a bad game design.


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A few years back, people would call the game challenging. Now it's a bad game design.

 

Where did the times go?



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Where did the times go?

 

I think they went for a mug of ale to the tavern in Haven once, and never returned. Probably ran for Ostagar as soon as they were out of sight.


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set your difficulty level down for now. you can change it once you get past this.

 

for future reference, save often and keep a few backups. 



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I've done this before, on the boss battle w/ Alexius, on Hard difficulty (I refused to turn it down because I wanted the achievement)

 

Spam barrier, get your tank's guard up and keep it up always, and use stealth with your rogues. It's possible. It's obnoxious. Micromanage with tac cam and do that, you'll be fine. 


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I've done this before, on the boss battle w/ Alexius, on Hard difficulty (I refused to turn it down because I wanted the achievement)

 

Spam barrier, get your tank's guard up and keep it up always, and use stealth with your rogues. It's possible. It's obnoxious. Micromanage with tac cam and do that, you'll be fine. 

 

spamming barrier has saved me on so many occasions. :P if you have good timing it can make most anything way easier.


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I've done this before, on the boss battle w/ Alexius, on Hard difficulty (I refused to turn it down because I wanted the achievement)

 

Spam barrier, get your tank's guard up and keep it up always, and use stealth with your rogues. It's possible. It's obnoxious. Micromanage with tac cam and do that, you'll be fine. 

 

This lady speaks the Maker's word. Or whatever you shemlen believe in.

 

Cassie and The Wall are excellent at staying alive, if you micromanage.

NOTHING breaks The Wall. NOTHING.

 

If you've Sera, the girl can also dodge like no other. Stealth, flasks... She's one awesome girl. Pretty much handed me an ultra hard story quest on a silver platter. On Nightmare, no less. She simply knows I WANT that achievement, so she went ahead, and gave me a bit of it. She's still in the process of hauling in the rest.


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Yup, if you're going to be in that situation, Sera, Blackwall and Viv are pretty much the ideal team for it.

 

I had Dorian, Sera, Cass, and 2H Warrior. 

 

My strategy was:

 

Dorian does barriers and revives
2H Quizzie & Cass war cry/charging bull immediately to build guard and then whack away, building guard every chance they can, Dorian barrier-ing them when their guard goes down. 

Sera actually takes care of herself pretty well, her AI is decent at using stealth + evading. just have to bring her back, and sometimes micromanaged her to get her leaping shots at the right time. I imagine Varric is pretty good at this too, if you have Cole, you'll definitely have to babysit him too, but he'll do higher damage most likely. If that doesn't work out, it may just be best to let him be dead and focus on mages + tanks.

 

It took me a few tries because at first I got impatient and wasn't micromanaging enough, but then I realized how much faster it would go even though it would take longer to do. 

 

It is really obnoxious, but it is totally possible. And I actually learned more about the combat system and how to use characters/tac cam effectively in that one battle than I did any other situation, so I'm glad I did it. 



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1. Switch to party member furthest away and try running.

2. If you can't run, hopefully you have a mage who can spam barrier.

3. Save often, save the moment you see the green shimmer in the distance.

4. Also give every rogue in your party stealth and make it a priority in their tactics. (for next time)

 

 

Let us know how it all turns out. Good luck.



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Just die. The game probably autosaved just before the fight, or at the very least before you entered whichever dungeon you're in. If you find yourself still low on potions just exit the area, stock up and come back. The game never saves in mid-fight.



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If you have any warriors that can build guard, you won't need to worry about health. Barrier will help a bit too. Do that and maybe try disrupting the rift at least once, though if you're on any sort of hard difficulty, the enemies will just shoot at you and disrupt you, unless you distract them well enough. Doesn't seem like an option here. Barrier would also block their stun effects long enough to disrupt the rift once.

 

I agree with the above though, you should have a decent autosave somewhere.



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Would also help to know what mission this is. If you're just closing a random rift, you can always run away.



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If you've already used up all the caches and it's an area you can't leave and your auto saves aren't before that, then you can get pretty screwed. That's what happened to me. :lol:

Didn't have any recent saves either, because I'd already hit the save limit and was being overly stingy with saving, thinking i would be fine with the auto saving.

But as I said, I managed it. :)

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A few years back, people would call the game challenging. Now it's a bad game design.

meh, its the whole lack of healing thing honestly, also the fact that its a game wanting to be an Action RPG, and a Tactics RPG at the same time... because they are kind of at the ends of the spectirum.



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meh, its the whole lack of healing thing honestly, also the fact that its a game wanting to be an Action RPG, and a Tactics RPG at the same time... because they are kind of at the ends of the spectirum.

Action, yes. Tactics.... eh.

 

Anyway, if the game had healing spells, then it would be entirely too easy. Lack of healing spells is necessary for this style. I like it because the need for a mage in the party is no longer there. Guard gets rid of that need.

 

I still keep at least one usually though.



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Go back a save,or try to tactically revive your allies. Too bad you don't have a Knight Enchanter, as they have a special reviving spell, that can net you and your party full health.



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I'm thinking you might be in the western approach dungeon where time was frozen?

There is a supply cache in there somewhere. Also if you have Viv in your party- her rift ability resurrects and heals all party members, very useful!

Side note: how in the hell do you not have a more recent auto save?? My game auto saves every 30 minutes on average in multiple save slots.