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#76
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Dragon Age having different protagonists actually helped me discover a new style of roleplaying. I'm a writer, I love collecting narratives and building characters, and up until DA:O I was a self-insert type player.

Well, I am no writer (would love to be one though, but talent and willpower is lacking severly). But I am partly on the same boat as in: its not me on the screen, or anything like this. I play games from the "author" or "director" point of view. That is, I am crafting a story in my mind, just as I read a book, and not inserting myself into an avatar and imagine this is me.

 

Now I still play mostly one gender though, but have no "identity-crisis" concerning my sexuality in doing so ^^



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I'll do the occasional switch up, to explore story possibilities (or other things) but I mostly stick with playing females.

 

As to why? Well... I've done a heck of a lot of roleplaying as a male, since that was typically the only option in most games, and I find it more interesting to play as something different, now that I can.

 

Also, I've done a lot of living as a male, so when gaming, playing a woman offers something that steps further outside of what I would see as my life experience.

 

And, lastly, if I'm going to spend many hours looking at a digital butt, it might as well be an attractive female one. smiley_innocent.gif


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..they often do, but not always. Again, there is not one single trait or decision that every woman on the planet would make that every man would not. Thus sex does not define personality.

 

Also, what you're saying very much falls under 'prejudice' in the definition you copy and pasted.

Not wanting to play the "stereotypical" dude is why I don't want to play men; hence why I said I as a woman (me, myself, I, and not people in general) don't want to play as a man.  Also because I've done a lot of it through the years because of no other option.

If you view that as sexist, fine.  If that makes me a sexist, fine.  Nothing you can say will ever convince me to want to play a man, and trying to throw PC terms around in an effort to get me to conform to certain ideas of what is currently the social "norm" or what is currently acceptable will achieve that.

Not surprising that forums still have those who desire to play the ethics police and think that in anyway they will really affect public opinion when you're as faceless and meaningless to me as I am to you especially when it comes to matters of pretty neutral positions.  This topic does not seem to have been put up to turn something into a huge debate on personality psychology and ideas of political correctness.  If you wish to take it that way because of some personal crusade you have find someone else.

One thing I've learned in life is that if everyone is happy with you you're probably not standing for anything worthwhile.  Thanks for the affirmation.


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Gosh lighten up people.  Let people express their opinions with some generalizations because that's just easier, and everybody knows they're just generalizations.  It'd be exhausting if everybody on the forums always had to phrase their posts in super-precise, 100% CYA, 200% PC lawyer-speak.

 

I think most everybody get that there are exceptions to every rule.  Absolutely you can say: "Many ABC do XYZ".  No need to chime in with "Uh-uh!!! I know of such-and-such exceptions!!!"  

 

Relax.  No need to always get so caught up with being PC about everything.  Everybody understands that of course you don't mean, literally every single last one of whatever "ABC" group of people you're referring to, would ALWAYS do "XYZ".

 

Generalizations based on gender or any other group identity are NOT absolute, certainly.  But they are NOT meaningless.


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*snip*

 

Have no clue how woman is related to the rest of the song. 



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Since I am a woman, I would not be able to play a lot of games if I felt like this.  For example, I can't play the Witcher, he's a dude, how do you expect me to relate to a dude?  I'd never have played Splinter Cell, Infamous, Asssassin's Creed, Straw Dogs, and Uncharted.  And many other games besides.  First you play as something that doesn't represent you because you have to if you want to play.  Then you play as something that doesn't represent you because it's nice to have the option to do that.  At least, that's how I look at it.  

Relax friend , my answer was related to games that let you choose your gender not that its important but  i played all the tomb raiders and loved them so im not going to dismiss a game simply because the protagonist is a female.



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I have nothing against playing as female protagonists (like in Tomb Raider) but when I'm giving a choice I always play as a male

I did try out FemShep and FemHawke once but didn't like it at all



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I primarily play self inserts, and I am a single gender thus my chars are as well. Heck it is rare for me to change choices between playthroughs (although it is rare for me to a second play through period).

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But this time I am making a male Quizzy since the LI's are no longer playersexual and I want to try some of the male ones, like Cass and Dorian


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I think a better question is why play as something that doesnt represent you.

 

Because if I played as something that represented me, I would have sh*tty attributes, no cool powers, and I would probably die in every combat encounter!


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Inb4 shutdown.

I play straight males because I'm a straight male, I can't play a female or homosexual because I project myself onto my character. I feel like I wouldn't add anything valuable to an opposite sex character other than my own stereotypes and gender bias. It's not a homophobic or misogynistic reason simply a truth on my part.

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Out of curiosity, why do you only play one gender? I play both, always have (since BG in fact) and never thought twice about it. What motivates you to limit yourself to only one?


I'm not limiting myself by playing only one gender. That's like saying that I'm limiting myself by making choice A rather than choice B. I play a male character because I'm a male in real life, and I play based on how I would naturally be if I were to be placed in the protagonist's shoes. Also, I do it for the romance content. All of my favorite romances (save Isabela) are exclusive to male characters (Morrigan, Miranda, Bastila, and Cassandra).

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Because if I played as something that represented me, I would have sh*tty attributes, no cool powers, and I would probably die in every combat encounter!

 

Now, don't be so hard on yourself.

 

Technically, we'd die in the very *first* one and only then.

 

Unless there was a necromancer in the party.



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Couldn't say op, I like getting the different outcomes (however minor) for genders and races. First run, human female, second run human male, just started my third last night as a Qunari female. I don't insert myself into the protagonist's shoes; I loosely define a role for them and then try to play it out given the limitations provided. I credit my time with PnP games in the nineties for broadening my horizons in this regard.



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Games where protagonists are set, eg Witcher or Deus Ex, are a totally different experience to games where the protagonist is heavily influenced by the player. 

 

Okay so maybe my ADam Jensen slaughtered every single person possible and yours was a pacifist, but all varieties possible are only of Adam Jensen. Alternate versions of him. 

 

The protagonist in Divinity/Morrowind/Dage etc is much more "mine" in that sense. 



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Because if I played as something that represented me, I would have sh*tty attributes, no cool powers, and I would probably die in every combat encounter!

ah being literal are we?  i always love it when people do that in order to " win" an argument :-) ......FYI i do have cool powers.



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Interesting that anyone cares what anyone else does in their SP games, but I tend to play males.  I've tried female characters and just can't get into the game.

 

As a man, I relate more to male characters than women.  Also, unlike some guys, I don't create female characters to ****** to the lesbian romance options in games.  Not all guys make female characters for that reason, but many do.

 

Also, I never joined the Jennifer Hale fan club.  It seems everyone thinks she's the greatest VA of all time, but I found her femsheps to be dull and cheesy.



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I've almost always played male characters because big bulky armor tends to look better on them. It really comes down to the shoulder guards. I will however re-roll a female for a specific romance. So, aesthetics and love interest choices tend to guide my decision making process.



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I always play as female if I have that option in a game. Easier for me to relate to a female character than a male, as I'm female Irl.



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I prefer playing females, since I am a female, but if there is a part of the game i want to explore (like romancing Dorian, only available on a male) or some aspect only available to a male protagonist, then I will gender swap.  I have played plenty of RPG's (FF series, Phantasy Star etc) who had one protagonist, always male and no other options, and the chance to play a female protagonist, if offered I'll always take.  At least for my first playthrough.



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Out of curiosity, why do you only play one gender? I play both, always have (since BG in fact) and never thought twice about it. What motivates you to limit yourself to only one?

 

I tried to use a female pc when given the option and couldn't finish a playthrough. I just couldn't take it seriously.



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I don't play myself, I suppose that is why I play both genders.


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Being male irl, I find it difficult to project myself onto a female character which ultimately leads to a less immersive experience.

 

Now, I have absolutely no problem identifying or relating to female characters when they are developed and created for me. However, I struggle when I'm expected to create and flesh out my own protagonist(DAI). 



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This thread is just begging for trouble. It's like you might as well put in the title, hey come reveal that you only play one gender so people can come bite your head off. 


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My answer:

 

Being a man in real life, I prefer to project myself into fictional worlds as a woman because I hate the male stereotypes and many of the tropes usually attached to them, most notably a bulky figure, a moderate IQ and an aversion to subtlety, and can't for the heck of it identify with any protagonist carrying them around, regardless of genre. If I play a male, it's usually for the romances - Morrigan in DAO, Miranda in ME2 - it requires a great deal of mental work and quite often fails me. A male Warden in DAO worked very well, male Shepard in ME failed in the end - now consider how much more stereotyping takes place in ME and it's not really surprising. It's rather surprising that my attempt even made it through ME1.

 

In the end, gender isn't really essential to me. If I were switched into a woman through some mysterious magic, I would still be me. I would probably be attracted to men as I am now to women, but so what? It's much more important that I can convincingly insert a certain mindset into the character I'm playing. And probably because of the memetic power of stereotypes, I can do that more easily if my character is a woman.


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My answer:

 

Being a man in real life, I prefer to project myself into fictional worlds as a woman because I hate the male stereotypes and many of the tropes usually attached to them, most notably a bulky figure, a moderate IQ and an aversion to subtlety, and can't for the heck of it identify with any protagonist carrying them around, regardless of genre. If I play a male, it's usually for the romances - Morrigan in DAO, Miranda in ME2 - it requires a great deal of mental work and quite often fails me. A male Warden in DAO worked very well, male Shepard in ME failed in the end - now consider how much more stereotyping takes place in ME and it's not really surprising. It's rather surprising that my attempt even made it through ME1.

 

In the end, gender isn't really essential to me. If I were switched into a woman through some mysterious magic, I would still be me. I would probably be attracted to men as I am now to women, but so what? It's much more important that I can convincingly insert a certain mindset into the character I'm playing. And probably because of the memetic power of stereotypes, I can do that more easily if my character is a woman.

 

Very well put.