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[King Killoth]

Humans breed faster. It's strength in numbers.

that is true and humans are hardly weak.. and very creative and stubborn

[Decepticon Leader Sully]

And her "visions were the insain mutterings of the taint. "

[King Killoth]

And her "visions were the insain mutterings of the taint. "

or echos of Cory's twisted mind as he commands the blight

[Clockwork_Wings]

Not sure it's sentient, but I do think it's an extremophile cave fungus. Perhaps it has a hivemind, so...say, lyrium in Orlais know what's happen to lyrium in Fereldan?

[KaiserShep]

I wasn't sure I liked the notion of qunari being mixed with dragons. To dragons what humans are to chimps, that was fine. What Iron Bull and Corypheus says makes me wonder though, of what came first.

 

I like to think that Father Kolgrim's ancient ancestors caused the kossith to come into being using some kind of weird magical artificial insemination technique.

 

By Andraste! What hath I wrought?!

[Jazharah]

When Elves and Dwarves lost their power, the cockroaches (humans) took over.

Just look at Corypheus. Perfect example.

[King Killoth]

When Elves and Dwarves lost their power, the cockroaches (humans) took over.

Just look at Corypheus. Perfect example.

yeah need to get a big can a raid to kill that bug.. or just a really big hammer.

[Decepticon Leader Sully]

Not sure it's sentient, but I do think it's an extremophile cave fungus. Perhaps it has a hivemind, so...say, lyrium in Orlais know what's happen to lyrium in Fereldan?

I ts crysaline i think.

i recall in Terry pratcett the light fantastic magic Crystaliseing over the Luggage. i think lyrium is like that. 

a magical Uranium. 

[Clockwork_Wings]

There's a plant that looks like rocks, and glowing cave fungus. I find it entertaining if cave fungus+Lovecraft=lyrium.

[King Killoth]

There's a plant that looks like rocks, and glowing cave fungus. I find it entertaining if cave fungus+Lovecraft=lyrium.

that would be interesting if true

[Clockwork_Wings]

that would be interesting if true

I speculated a bit ago that it has a hive mind, or it's all one "thing," so lyrium in Orlais is aware of what's happening to lyrium in Fereldan.

[King Killoth]

I speculated a bit ago that it has a hive mind, or it's all one "thing," so lyrium in Orlais is aware of what's happening to lyrium in Fereldan.

that would explain the shaper crystal in under her skin quest

[Clockwork_Wings]

It being an organism might explain how red lyrium propogates. Perhaps blue lyrium spreads too, just slower, and without a host, but red lyrium does so much more rapidly, especially with a living host. It doing that is also why I think it's a fungus

[Giantdeathrobot]

Yeah my question is "How the heck did we do that?". We beat down these more powerful races yet we seem to be fairly mundane. Why are we so successful?

Edit: I just remembered both the Old Gods and The Maker are said to have spoken to humanity and marked them as special. I just wonder why of all the races these entities would choose the ones that are so... Pitiful in comparison.

 

Faith, numbers, armor, not being in constant civil war with one another, take your pick. Mostly the numbers helped I'd wager. 

 

Besides, the humans might be dominant now, but in ye olde days the elves ruled all of Thedas, probably for quite some time if they developped things like flying cities or whatnot. The dwarves had an underground empire that spanned almost the entire continent before the Blights too, which presumably wasn't built in a day. We just happen to play in a time where humans are dominant for now.

 

That said, I think it would be cool to play in a fantasy setting not dominated by humans. Mass Effect tried it, but by the end the humans still became Super Special again. Would be cool to have a fantasy setting where we humies actually are the downtrodden minority, heirs of a dead empire perhaps? Or maybe a world so filled with ridiculously dangerous monsters like undead, dragons and demons that civilization is all but impossible and humans survive, not thrive? 

[Ncongruous]

in haven after acquiring Cole from the templars quest if you ask him how he feels about templars he says its like they are reaching for something older then magic and says its like how he feels near verric and the inquisitor if hes a dwarf. this is also followed up by what Kieran says when a dwarf inquisitor meets him for the first time..along the lines of your small with out the titans..this leads me to think that the dwarves where much bigger a long time ago and lost their true power and connection to magic.. much like how the elves use to be immortal. any thoughts?

I don't know the exact line having not reached it nor heard it but after reading your paraphrase could he simply be referencing Golems?

[King Killoth]

I don't know the exact line having not reached it nor heard it but after reading your paraphrase could he simply be referencing Golems?

it only happens if your inquisitor is a dwarf.. and when you meet him for the first time...as for the Golems..that is an interesting Idea

[errantknight]

I think it was more like dagna was tripin.
and the Qunari dragon thing was more likely an old wives tail.

I haven't encountered this tidbit, but I'm thinking that doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Obvious;y it could only happen by transforming dragons with magic into people. You'd have to transform an awful lot of them to make a race viable. Maybe the ancient elves could do it or the ancient tevinter. Hmm. Maybe this IS true. The Qunari did just appear one day--and the dragons just disappeared. Maybe they were a weapon that didn't work out. But how did they make them so much smarter? Transforming something into another shape is one thing, changing it's nature and mental capacity is another. Maybe dragons are smarter than we think they are,

[Taleroth]

considering that humans over took a race of immortals and spread out over the entirety of thedas relatively unchecked.. also humans have been the largest and most powerful military force known to thedas

The immortals practically destroyed themselves. That's part of their dark secret.

[BloodyTalon]

I haven't encountered this tidbit, but I'm thinking that doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Obvious;y it could only happen by transforming dragons with magic into people. You'd have to transform an awful lot of them to make a race viable. Maybe the ancient elves could do it or the ancient tevinter. Hmm. Maybe this IS true. The Qunari did just appear one day--and the dragons just disappeared. Maybe they were a weapon that didn't work out. But how did they make them so much smarter? Transforming something into another shape is one thing, changing it's nature and mental capacity is another. Maybe dragons are smarter than we think they are,

You need to slay a dragon with Iron Bull or before he joins, and that pops up once you get skyhold and share drinks with him. That there is a thoery amount some of the faction he works for about that basically.

But it could be possible either way given during the fight with Cory he mentions that the races blood is corrupt and that they are a mistake, mixing dragon blood perhaps could cause that? And Solas once mentions that without the Qun to keep certian base things in check most of them are savage.

A lot of things point to either breeding with dragons, though seems more likely a bunch drunk and did some ritual with dragon blood at some point. Now if they keep breeding the ones who drunk dragon blood with others who did whose to say what would happen with such an experitment, they could devlp[e minor dragon looks perhaps.  But the blood theory seems more likely then breeding.

And about the dwarves, now that we know lyrium is alive think there will end up being a deeper meaning between dwarves and lyrium now...maybe that is where dwarf magic went into the stone to forum lyrium?

Sorry for typos and errors.

Modifié par BloodyTalon, 17 décembre 2014 - 08:23 .

[azanimefan]

So... Are humans special in ANY way? It sounds like literally all of the other races have some big dark secret in their past and power in their blood. How are humans running the world?

I guess if the Maker's real being His Favorites would give us something.

 

The maker is Hitogami

 

~ anyway, i think the real issue comes with the change of the world.  The world, from the lore, changed 2 times.  Once when the veil between the "world" and the "fade" was created, this changed the very nature of the world, and it seems this is also around the time Humans "appeared" and "elves" started their long decent into irrelevance.  

~the second time the world changed was when the golden city turned black... not only were the blights started, leading to tivinters fall, but the nature of the fade itself changed

 

there might have been a yet older cataclysm which affected dwarves, but we don't have any hints of this.  yet.  

[BloodyTalon]

The maker is Hitogami

 

~ anyway, i think the real issue comes with the change of the world.  The world, from the lore, changed 2 times.  Once when the veil between the "world" and the "fade" was created, this changed the very nature of the world, and it seems this is also around the time Humans "appeared" and "elves" started their long decent into irrelevance.  

~the second time the world changed was when the golden city turned black... not only were the blights started, leading to tivinters fall, but the nature of the fade itself changed

 

there might have been a yet older cataclysm which affected dwarves, but we don't have any hints of this.  yet.  

Also don't forget the fade changes to reflect the minds of those who dream and how they view the world. So would have also become more aggersive when the chantry and circles where formed based on their teachings and what to expect from there.

[Clockwork_Wings]

Also don't forget the fade changes to reflect the minds of those who dream and how they view the world. So would have also become more aggersive when the chantry and circles where formed based on their teachings and what to expect from there.

That was the marketing behind Solas.  He's not afraid of the fade, so it isn't a scary place to him.  It's also a theory I had on why the Golden City was empty: Corypheus did not really expect to find anyone there.

[Ashagar]

Indeed that might have even been the fear of him and the other magisters still maker there or no maker there something threw them out of the city and the fade for that matter before they could do more damage.

[Clockwork_Wings]

Were they thrown out?  As interesting as that is, it's possible they just...left.  Did they have a plan to leave?

[Ashagar]

I suspect any plans they might have had likely went out the window with their corruption and that they didn't get out of the fade on their own.