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[thesuperdarkone2]

I've heard that there is supposed to be an ending where the Elder One wins and destroys Thedas. I'm wondering if this ending is still in the game or if it was cut. If it is in the game, what conditions need to be met to get it.

[Vikarus]

Sorry to disappoint but I'm pretty sure that ending doesn't exist. A lot of the marketing campaign was, if not outright lies, painfully misleading. Demons win in the sense that you can die, and read a sentence that usually says something like, "And so the world burned." Before reloading. I'd take everything you heard or saw in previews with a bucket of salt.

Edit: Accidentally posted this unfinished.

[Vivamoore]

It was a complete lie by the developers.

They meant that when you die they take over the world.

(Uhhh, duh. That doesn't mean it's a full fledged ending.)

[Ashagar]

You can get a game over not just for dying but getting kicked out of the grand ball because then nobody stops the assassination and Celene and the council of Heralds are all assassinated and the Grand Duke is arrested for treason leaving the empire leaderless and easy prey for Corypheus.

[katerinafm]

It's called the game over screen. Literally. Also you get a special one if you die at a specific part of the story *cough*.

[Warden Commander Aeducan]

They cut it on the final version.

[Lucky Thirteen]

There is a part where you can time travel and see that the demons win if you fail. But I don't think you can actually fail. 

[RobRam10]

They cut it on the final version.

Was it really a cut? I thought Mages mission was that scenario.

[Warden Commander Aeducan]

Was it really a cut? I thought Mages mission was that scenario.

I suppose you can count that one as Corypheus win ending, but I thought the Dev stated that you can actually lose. I imagine it'll share some similarity with Mass Effect 2 Shepard's dies ending.

[Ryzaki]

I assumed it was those special game over texts.

 

I know of two. You get one if you die before stabilizing the breach, and you get one for being booted out of the Winter Palace.

[Warden Commander Aeducan]

and you get one for being booted out of the Winter Palace.

Wait, you can get booted out of the Winter Palace? 

[elrofrost]

It's the same ending no matter what you do. Your only choices are wining or dying (and NOT finishing the game). You also can't switch sides.

 

There is a slight difference at the end game summary relayed by Morrigan. With slides. The slides reflect what decisions you made in game (though not many).

 

So yeah, I agree.. the whole marketing "play and win the game the way you want to" was crap.

 

You know, even in ME3 (after they added the Extended Cut) you could choose option 4 (by shooting the star child) and watch the cycle continue. ME2 too. You, Shepard, can die in ME2 and you'll get a scene where Joker is looking over the caskets on the ship. Not sure how this would play importing into ME3 though.

 

I'm hoping when they add DLC's and patches this changes. 

[Ryzaki]

Wait, you can get booted out of the Winter Palace? 

 

Yeah if your approval falls to zero they kick you out.

[Ashagar]

It's the same ending no matter what you do. Your only choices are wining or dying (and NOT finishing the game). You also can't switch sides.

 

There is a slight difference at the end game summary relayed by Morrigan. With slides. The slides reflect what decisions you made in game (though not many).

 

So yeah, I agree.. the whole marketing "play and win the game the way you want to" was crap.

 

You know, even in ME3 (after they added the Extended Cut) you could choose option 4 (by shooting the star child) and watch the cycle continue. ME2 too. You, Shepard, can die in ME2 and you'll get a scene where Joker is looking over the caskets on the ship. Not sure how this would play importing into ME3 though.

 

I'm hoping when they add DLC's and patches this changes. 

 

Of course you can't switch sides given that point of the game is saving the world and the world will be effectively destroyed with Corypheus lording over a dead demon infested world and a few survivors maybe.

[DarkAmaranth1966]

Yep, makes being a mage harder, and being a non human mage even worse there. Dalish start at just 30 approval, can't afford to screw up but, even then, do it right and you end up 100+ after the dance.

[skotie]

You can get a game over not just for dying but getting kicked out of the grand ball because then nobody stops the assassination and Celene and the council of Heralds are all assassinated and the Grand Duke is arrested for treason leaving the empire leaderless and easy prey for Corypheus.

I know that's supposed to be a bad thing, felt more like doing the world a favor.

[BloodyTalon]

Game over screens count has endings now enjoy and know the truth if you new to gaming.

[Grieving Natashina]

The rumor I heard was that if you rush through the game without doing the Inner Circle missions and skip almost all of the sidequests, you won't have the army needed in order to take down Cory.  You lose and watch demons rain from the sky.   In short, on TV Tropes (at least as of about 12 hours or so ago,) they are claiming that BioWare pulled a ME3 on everyone (before they patched out the MP requirement.)

 

I take TV Tropes with a grain of salt generally, but now I'm wondering where the heck this rumor came from.  Could they have interpreted the quest where you side with the mages as the bad ending, maybe? 

 

I know that's supposed to be a bad thing, felt more like doing the world a favor.

I think you'd appreciate this.  Sorry for the poor lighting in the screenshot, but the caption belongs to Leliana:

 

Spoiler

[ChaosMarky]

If you side with the mages, the story arc gives you a preview of what happens when the world burns.

 

I think that's the best they can come up with.

[omgodzilla]

"Lead them or Fall"

Lol reminds me of that one Casey Hudson quote before ME3's release where he was like "its not in any way like traditional game endings where you can say how many endings there are or whether you got ending A, B or C".

[Laughing_Man]

"Lead them or Fall"

Lol reminds me of that one Casey Hudson quote before ME3's release where he was like "its not in any way like traditional game endings where you can say how many endings there are or whether you got ending A, B or C".

 

*facepalm* or *head-desk*?...

[Wolfen09]

It's the same ending no matter what you do. Your only choices are wining or dying (and NOT finishing the game). You also can't switch sides.

 

There is a slight difference at the end game summary relayed by Morrigan. With slides. The slides reflect what decisions you made in game (though not many).

 

So yeah, I agree.. the whole marketing "play and win the game the way you want to" was crap.

 

 

They were scared after ME3 choose your own ending thing and decided to go back to the old way of 1 ending with slight differences...  your line of play and win the game the way you want to actually still applies in this aspect.... the inquisition still wins and you get to nitpick on some of the details...  they didnt say hey, you can ride in on the back of a dragon, sh*t on the bad guy, stab your love interest in the face multiple times... or just kill the bad guy to win... no, they let you pick how the mages or templars would be dealt with,  who to put in charge of orlais, what to do with the wardens, all of these get you to your play your way.  play your way doesnt apply to playing the game anyway you want, it applies to the decisions you make.  That said, they didnt backfire on the play and win the way you want to promise....  as for the demons can win theory... oh well, the last time i remember that being said was 6 months prior to release...  stuff is bound to get cut, and im not one bit surprised by it...  in fact, im wondering why this is a complaint at all...  if anything thedas would be destroyed and the next dragon age game would have to be a prequel to origins... or we would have to fix what the inquisition messed up and we would be fixing messes again, ie fixing all of hawkes screw ups.  so im glad they ended it with a win, new stuff down the road is better than fixing the previous hero's screw ups...

[Corwyn]

I guess if you want you could do the mage's quest then when Alexius sends you to the future just refuse to do anything.

[Taura-Tierno]

A game can't really have too radically different endings if there's going to be a sequel. Or they'd have to do what was done with Infamous: Second Son and make one ending of InFamous 2 the canon ending and ignore the others. Unless the prequel is set so far into the future that the differences don't matter.

[Vikarus]

A game can't really have too radically different endings if there's going to be a sequel. Or they'd have to do what was done with Infamous: Second Son and make one ending of InFamous 2 the canon ending and ignore the others. Unless the prequel is set so far into the future that the differences don't matter.

The way I see it it's not about resources, or constraints with sequels. Bioware has already set the standard for what they're capable of, and for some reason they've decided not to give it their best with Inquisition. In Mass Effect 2 it was possible to lose. You couldn't import this save into ME3 because you'd lost. There was next to no backlash for this. In fact, Mass Effect 2 is still frequently praised as one of the best RPGs of all time. There should be a similar ending in Inquisition.

The choices you make, the allies you choose, the things you do should matter. They don't. Their slogan for this game was, "Lead them or fall," expect you can't fail. You can make arguably terrible choices the entire game, and face no repercussions. It makes the victory hollow, as other threads have already better pointed out. It's disappointing, to say the least.