better villain DAI, Or Sovereign?
#1
Posté 17 décembre 2014 - 04:49
#2
Posté 17 décembre 2014 - 04:55
Sovereign.
There's very few games that have had a better 'Oh, **** me' moment than that first talk with Sovereign. Before then, I was just trying to stop a jackass. After that, the scope of the game and Saren's goal changed dramatically for me. It became a war for survival, and I absolutely loved it.
The Elder One was ok. I just wish we had gotten to know him a little more.
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#3
Posté 17 décembre 2014 - 05:03
Sovereign sends his agents after things he doesn't need and runs from his enemy.
#4
Posté 17 décembre 2014 - 05:04
Sovereign easily.
#5
Posté 17 décembre 2014 - 05:22
Sovereign EASILY
#6
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Posté 17 décembre 2014 - 05:22
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#8
Posté 17 décembre 2014 - 05:36
Corypheus, hands down. People can ****** about it being cliche but, human history is full of people that have sought immorality or Godhood in their own way. The search for the Fountain of Life, the Philosophers Stone, Military Might and now days genetic engineering and nanotechnology.
This is absolutely true, and is basically my reasoning for not minding Cory as a villain.
Buuuuuuuuuuuut I'm a huge Lovecraft fan and Sovereign is basically Robot Cthulhu. So...
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#9
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Posté 17 décembre 2014 - 05:37
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Haha, I can agree with the last part Fizzy. I ****ing despised the Star Child. I wanted to slap him upside the head with some ****ing clown shoes lol.Hands down Sovereign basically mass effect in general except star child. **** that kid.
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#10
Guest_Stormheart83_*
Posté 17 décembre 2014 - 05:39
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A Cthulhu themed quest in Inquisition would of been epic.This is absolutely true, and is basically my reasoning for not minding Cory as a villain.
Buuuuuuuuuuuut I'm a huge Lovecraft fan and Sovereign is basically Robot Cthulhu. So...
#11
Posté 17 décembre 2014 - 05:44
A Cthulhu themed quest in Inquisition would of been epic.
I still jokingly refer to Haven as Innsmouth With A Dragon because of how it was in DAO. Sadly none of those investigative war table ops about it lead to any Lovecraftian horrors lurking in caverns beneath the place.
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#12
Posté 17 décembre 2014 - 06:05
Sovereign. Hands down.
Cory seems to be pretty inept as a villain in DA:I. I mean seriously, we beat him to the punch and foil his plans like 3 separate times in the game. I almost felt sorry for him by the end of the game.
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#13
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Posté 17 décembre 2014 - 06:08
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But, Shepard and his crew do the same exact thing in ME 1&2. With an occasional hic-up here and there.Sovereign. Hands down.
Cory seems to be pretty inept as a villain in DA:I. I mean seriously, we beat him to the punch and foil his plans like 3 separate times in the game. I almost felt sorry for him by the end of the game.
#14
Posté 17 décembre 2014 - 06:18
Sovereign, he scared the heck out of me with his deep computer voice. Also the way he talked, he just didn't give a shyt as he was talking about killing all life in the galaxy.
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#15
Posté 17 décembre 2014 - 07:19
Sovereign is impressive in size . He win there , but he isnt scary..not when ya learn who and what he is (after Leviathan).......he is just a toy gone wrong like GO-TO from Kotor 2 . Ya know.....
cryphishit isnt impressive either . I never though a DLC charachter would become the big baddy...I'm still in shock .
And yes....not impressed there , I mean..he talk yada yada I'm gonna kill ya yada yada.....Solas tell ya to prepare for him yada yada...there should've been some storm for ya screwing him over twice . But we got nothing...
Then he lose cookies points in the end...when he start calling Dumat for HelP!.....Ah how the mighty fall back to the servant rank as soon as he is beaten....
irenicus from Baldur's Gate 2 is still impressive.....havent found anyone like that . yet
And Kreia from Kotor 2 ![]()
#16
Posté 17 décembre 2014 - 08:35
Sovereign
#17
Posté 17 décembre 2014 - 08:37
Sovereign. Until we heard it talk, we had no idea what the real enemy was. Then we find out it is a giant Alien Spaceship thing and... oh s***, we have to kill that?
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#18
Posté 17 décembre 2014 - 09:40
Corypheus, no contest for squidward.
#19
Posté 17 décembre 2014 - 10:34
Sovereign, hands down.
Coryphefish was another cardboard villain thirsting for godhood. Sovereign seemed truly alien with its incomprehensible motives, thus was scarier.
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#20
Posté 17 décembre 2014 - 10:37
Corypheus is kind of a **** villain, to be honest.
He's like the poor man's Sith Lord.
Malak or Master Li would give him a wedgie and take his lunch money.
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#21
Posté 17 décembre 2014 - 11:37
Eh, I don't think either is particularly compelling. Corypheus is a stock magic villain for a stock magic plot, Sovereign is a poor imitation of a Shivan with a tendency to talk too much.
The Arishok is BioWare's best. He had a view of how the world should be, and was prepared to fight for it, you could disagree and fight to protect your world view, or you could agree but still be pulled into conflict by circumstance.
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#22
Posté 17 décembre 2014 - 11:40
Sovereign lost a lot of his luster when it was revealed he was a sock-puppet for a space ghost.
Cory, on the other hand, was fully independent.
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#23
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Posté 17 décembre 2014 - 11:43
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Sovereigns motives were only unclear and mysterious because Bioware never presented us with any Info till ME 2&3. It pretty much came down to I'm a hyper advance AI and I'm going to kill you because stuff and stuff then we finally got the hole story in ME 3.Sovereign, hands down.
Coryphefish was another cardboard villain thirsting for godhood. Sovereign seemed truly alien with its incomprehensible motives, thus was scarier.
#24
Posté 17 décembre 2014 - 11:45
Sovereigns motives were only unclear and mysterious because Bioware never presented us with any Info till ME 2&3. It pretty much came down to I'm a hyper advance AI and I'm going to kill you because stuff and stuff then we finally got the hole story in ME 3.
Al Gore's rants about the ManBearPig were more coherent than the Reaper's motives.
#25
Posté 17 décembre 2014 - 11:50
Eh, I don't think either is particularly compelling. Corypheus is a stock magic villain for a stock magic plot, Sovereign is a poor imitation of a Shivan with a tendency to talk too much.
The Arishok is BioWare's best. He had a view of how the world should be, and was prepared to fight for it, you could disagree and fight to protect your world view, or you could agree but still be pulled into conflict by circumstance.
I think Corypheus is a better villain than the Arishok and Meredith by far.
Both are better PEOPLE.
But neither are very good antagonists.
Corypheus is the poor man's Skeletor trying to get into Castle Grayskull but the Arishok fight wasn't some big epic duel of the Titans for me.
It was a breakdown in relations leading to an unnecessary street fight.
(Well, unless you really hate Isabella).
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