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[Colonelkillabee]

See, Colonel? That's kind of an "adult" discussion you'd have

You don't even know me, you judgmental presumptuous cretin. 

[Colonelkillabee]

Lol first, you can't be "unfair" to your own characters. It's yours. That's like me being unfair to the crust because I cut it off of my pb and j...

 

Second, racism and sexism don't need to be pointed out, we'll see them. They tend to show up in writing because they're real world things and keeping them out does no one any justice. Dealing with them instead of censoring, that's the way to go.

 

Third, part of having an adult conversation is also not being a stick in the mud sensitive snowflake ready to melt at the first thing that rustles your jimmies. You didn't like the joke, I get it. Cry me a river. I may slip into childish offcolored silliness once in a while, but at least when I'm childish, it's lighthearted and not with a stick up my ass.

Quoting myself in case my comment gets lost from it being on the last page.

 

Seriously, it's a videogame. Lighten the **** up, for Andraste's sake.

[dragonflight288]

Well, my Dalish Inquisitor is really cool, generally sarcastic, and has become a necromancer hoping that an increased understanding of spirits will help him better combat the demons from the rifts. 

 

He gets along well with humans, but has no problem or any issue at all with killing nobles and freely backtalks the chantry. 

 

Well studied on history and magic, which he uses in dialogues whenever he can. 

 

I'd say my Inquisitor is a really cool Dalish. 

[raging_monkey]

And now the "adult" discussions start lol

[Colonelkillabee]

And now the "adult" discussions start lol

I abandoned all hopes after someone started presuming things of me from one comment. As if I'm really pro genocide. Seriously.

 

Don't ask me what I think about elves in TES. Y'all really wouldn't like me then, lol.

[MoonDrummer]

People take this shite too seriously

[myahele]

I mostly feel sorry for the Dalish. Hating everyone, including City Elves. Fearing Sola's and Flemeth when they are the very gods they believe in.

[Colonelkillabee]

I really hope that the Dales will somehow change due to all of this new information and they won't just continue to be the same despite it. I want this information to mean something.

[raging_monkey]

I abandoned all hopes after someone started presuming things of me from one comment. As if I'm really pro genocide. Seriously.
 
Don't ask me what I think about elves in TES. Y'all really wouldn't like me then, lol.

im the live and let guy long as a have booze and bedmates im happy XD and its the fact some bsners are serious. You and i joke constantly but so are "true death to the elves wear their skin, blah blah, blah" lol

[Colonelkillabee]

im the live and let guy long as a have booze and bedmates im happy XD and its the fact some bsners are serious. You and i joke constantly but so are "true death to the elves wear their skin, blah blah, blah" lol

That is indeed true. People will get used to me in time, but for now people should get used to a concept called "To assume makes an ass out of you AND me".

 

Even if I was being serious, it never had anything to do with what I was saying earlier, and still had nothing to do with what I was saying now. Ad Hominems are for amateur debaters.

[BabyFratelli]

Quoting myself in case my comment gets lost from it being on the last page.

 

Seriously, it's a videogame. Lighten the **** up, for Andraste's sake.

 

I feel like this thread was full of good points, a variety of opinions and civil debate that you were contributing to just fine until you started randomly talking about having adult discussion and special snowflakes. Part of being an adult is understanding that while you have the right to say whatever you want, people have the right to respond to that however they want as well. That includes disagreeing, or taking offense. The risk of a negative response is one you take when you make a controversial joke, or a point on a side of an argument. Also, if you don't want to discuss the topic seriously, you're really in the wrong place, don't you think? 

 

Hopefully this gets back on track anyway, as it was really interesting to read. 

[raging_monkey]

That is indeed true. People will get used to me in time, but for now people should get used to a concept called "To assume makes an ass out of you AND me".
 
Even if I was being serious, it never had anything to do with what I was saying earlier, and still had nothing to do with what I was saying now. Ad Hominems are for amateur debaters.

it helps with have a ironic name lol (the joke is im rarly the raging black guy lol). And i live off amateurs half my paycheck lol

[Colonelkillabee]

I feel like this thread was full of good points, a variety of opinions and civil debate that you were contributing to just fine until you started randomly talking about having adult discussion and special snowflakes. Part of being an adult is understanding that while you have the right to say whatever you want, people have the right to respond to that however they want as well. That includes disagreeing, or taking offense. The risk of a negative response is one you take when you make a controversial joke, or a point on a side of an argument. Also, if you don't want to discuss the topic seriously, you're really in the wrong place, don't you think? 

 

Hopefully this gets back on track anyway, as it was really interesting to read. 

I am interested in a serious discussion. I made ONE joke. I think, lol.

 

I don't think it warrants all the ad hominems and assumptions of my character. If you were following the discussion, I was actually staying on topic until she kept bringing it back to that comment I made that was never even addressed to her or anything.

 

And I don't care if she disagrees or dislikes something, but trying to say the devs are being unfair because the dalish are down on their luck is silly.

Or that people with a different opinion are being "unfair".

[Colonelkillabee]

Seems to me it's more like the Dalish fans take people not liking them to heart and can't handle that. Yea there are people being dicks, but they're in the minority.

 

You can't just go around assuming everyone's an extreme elf hater just because someone dislikes their pointless philosophy of "Down with the ship".

 

The Dalish are stubborn to a fault, and if people really do like the Dalish so much, they better hope they get their act together or they won't be around for much longer.

[The Hierophant]

TME provides irrefutable evidence of blankets being the Dalish warriors' kryptonite. 

 

 

 

The guards were looking at the burning wagon and didn't see him coming until he was almost there. Then the first guard glanced over, saw him, and turned to raise a cry.

 Michel flung the sopping blanket into his face, kicked him in the knee, snapped the blanket around the back of his head, and smashed his knee into the guard's trapped face. Two left, and though he'd move, the Dalish were well trained, and they were already turning and drawing their swords. Michel let the first guard drop and held the blanket across his body like a shield.

  

 The guard on the right stabbed at him. Michel twisted the blanket, trapped the blade, slammed an elbow into the guard's face, took the blade, and sliced the guard's throat open as he stepped away. The guard on the left blanched, then yelled and came in hard with a high slash. Michel ducked, spun the blanket so that it flared out before the guard's face, then thrust thrust through it, punching through the guard's ironbark armor and pinning him to a wagon.

  Michel drew the blade back out,through flesh, armor, and blanket, then tossed the blanket aside.

 

As you might have noticed, a blanket to a Dalish is like vinewhip to a squirtle. Can't even imagine what Jackie Chan would do to them.

[Carmen_Willow]

I see them as pretty much being like any other group, with legends for a past and an uncertain future. Traditions work both ways, they keep you grounded but they also tie you to the past. I don't see them as any better or worse than any ethnic group. Capable of great goodness and great evil, capable of brilliant solutions and horrible mistakes.  Not saints , not demons, just people.

[Colonelkillabee]

Here's a question. Does anyone think if the situation was reversed, that the Dalish would have "Alienages"? Did the ancient elves ever have slaves or anything like that?

[raging_monkey]

Here's a question. Does anyone think if the situation was reversed, that the Dalish would have "Alienages"? Did the ancient elves ever have slaves or anything like that?

oh boy... yeah the ancient elves had slaves. Those tats the dalish have are slave marking to x god in their society. And before someone uses this as ammo remember we only KNOW PARTS OF THE CULTURE

[Colonelkillabee]

oh boy... yeah the ancient elves had slaves. Those tats the dalish have are slave marking to x god in their society. And before someone uses this as ammo remember we only KNOW PARTS OF THE CULTURE

Sorry, I meant slaves outside their race.

 

Though now that I think about it, if they'd enslave themselves, why not humans? LOL. Should have thought that one out more, ha.

[raging_monkey]

Sorry, I meant slaves outside their race.
 
Though now that I think about it, if they'd enslave themselves, why not humans? LOL. Should have thought that one out more, ha.

there is the possiblity of the ancients enslaving other races.

[Colonelkillabee]

Indeed, though even if they didn't, it makes me feel even less sorry for them. The ancients that is. I'm not going to begrudge the Dalish today for their ancestors, though you know, it does kinda remind me of people here in South Carolina talking about their "proud confederate history", lol. Yea, right.

[Colonelkillabee]

Of course, the Dalish weren't aware however.

[GenericEnemy]

Some of them I've liked, some of them have been complete dicks.

 

They remind me of most other people in that way.... 

[herkles]

Here's a question. Does anyone think if the situation was reversed, that the Dalish would have "Alienages"? Did the ancient elves ever have slaves or anything like that?

hard to say. Though I imagine if there was a new arlathan, the ones who would be anti-human the most would not the dalish, but the city elves. The reason for this is that while the dalish have stories to why they hate humans, most do not encounter them or have a personal reason to hate the humans. City elves do, the whole city elf origin gives you plenty of reasons to hate humans. It is more personal to the city elves, for how many know a sister or daughter that suffered at a noble similar to Vaughn? How many have been abused and physically mistreated? if the elves come from tevinter, then they would very likely be slaves who suffered the worst of the worst, seeing their freinds and family be used as offerings for blood magic rituals. 

 

All of this makes me think the city elves might be one of the bigger agitators against humanity in a new Arlathan. 

[EmissaryofLies]

I choose to remember them before The Masked One Dimensional Villains and before Chantquisition. When they were a proud and justifiably vigilant race.

 

I have accepted that Bioware doesn't think that they're worth the markings on their faces. And I have come to terms with the possibility that they aren't done sh*tting on them yet.