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What do you guys think are the real world counterparts to the nations of Thedas? Here's my take:

 

Tevinter: Byzantine Empire

Orlais: France

Ferelden: Scotland

Antiva: Italy

Nevarra: England? Germany? Not sure. 

Rivain: Spain

Free Marches: Swiss Cantons or German states? 

Qunari: Vikings or Turks

Orlesian Chantry: Catholic Church

Tevinter Chantry: Eastern Orthodox

The Inquisition: Teutonic Knights



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The inquisition isn't a portion of a crusader army that pulled out after it's countries king got drunk and drown in a three foot deep creek.

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They are the equivalent of the religious military order that eventually became a kingdom with its own lands, army, castles, etc. 



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I dont' see what's specifically Scottish about Ferelden, I would rather say "Britain overall" Scottish accent is even only present in Starkhaven.

 

I have no idea what Swiss cantons are, but I imagined the Free Marches as being the German states, Kirkwall being Lübeck and Starkhaven being Frankfurt.

 

I don't think Nevarra is spain either, I think the Netherlands are a more fair comparison, they used to be under Burgundy, Austria and Spain just as Nevarra have been under Tevinter, Orlais and a Free Marches city of its own.

 

I think Rivain is spain ad Qunari is Ottomans, it fits a bit seeing as there are Qunari settlements in Rivain that could be compared to Grenada or orher Iberian islamic sultanates.

 

THen there's the Anderfels, I don't really have a feel for them yet. Teutonic order maybe?



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Sorry I edited my post to include Rivain. I have no idea about Nevarra or the Anderfals. I think David Gaider or someone said that Ferelden is based off of Scotland and that Qunari are based off of Norse stereotypes. But I think they also resemble Turks as well. Swiss Cantons were independent city states essentially, like Zurich/Geneva. 



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Okay, well I don't really see what's viking about Qunari. They conquer stuff when they feel like bothering but they don't raid places like Vikings did. They live in tropical climate and have explosives, the Nordic countries were probably the last to make use of gunpowder in the western world.

 

Eh, whatever floats their boat. I always felt the Qunari fit as a "muslim" counterpart as the "strange new approaching" religion that appears here and there like Grenada and Bosnia (Rivain and Qundalon in Anderfels) plus they take land that was previously Tevinter/Byzantine (Seheron/Anatolia/Greece)

 

Not sure what's so scottish about Ferelden either that isn't just britain proper, Ferelden is not very rocky like the Scottish highlands and they are more brown than grey. No loch ness monsters either. Lol.



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the Qun the Quran?
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I'd have gone Tevinter = Roman, but I don't know much about the Byzantines.

Obviously Elves = Wales/Ireland (at least in accent lol)

I'd agree with Fereldan = Britain in general, too.



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I agree Qunari seem more like the Turks. Although the fact that they have horns and that Bioware said they are based off of Norse stereotypes would indicate Vikings. Maybe a mixture of Vikings and Turks?

 

I think Bioware straightup said Ferelden was based off of medieval Scotland. 



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I think Bioware straightup said Ferelden was based off of medieval Scotland. 

Not saying I don't beleive that, I just don't see how they specifically compare.



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What do you guys think are the real world counterparts to the nations of Thedas? Here's my take:

 

Tevinter: Byzantine Empire

Orlais: France

Ferelden: Scotland

Antiva: Italy

Nevarra: England? Germany? Not sure. 

Rivain: Spain

Free Marches: Swiss Cantons

Qunari: Vikings or Turks

Orlesian Chantry: Catholic Church

Tevinter Chantry: Eastern Orthodox

The Inquisition: Teutonic Knights

Yeah i'd agree with most of this, Qunari are much more Turkish than Vikings though, and Antiva has Spanish influence as well (but yeah mainly Italian)
Nevarra is a strange one and probably hardest to place, i'd say its Prussian and Egyptian.
Free Marches i'd say mainly greek city states and HRE



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Nevarra seems like a mix of Spain and ancient Egypt or something.

 

edit: Someone mentioned Prussian above.. I've considered that too. Or the old Austrian-Hungarian empire.



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Not saying I don't beleive that, I just don't see how they specifically compare.

 

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There is not going to be a one to one relationship with most of the in game countries. Even those that are intended to be representative of a specific place in time will still be altered by popular perception, Hollywood tropes and just needing to be reworked to fit the game. You can see where they drew inspiration for some of the in game cultures, but none of the Thedas countries are going to be a true representation of any historical.
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Okay so Ferelden's concept art looks like Scotland, lol.



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Okay so Ferelden's concept art looks like Scotland, lol.

It takes inspiration from both Scotland and British Isles proper, but no one ever flat out said, Ferelden is Scotland. Certain areas, like Highever, certainly are more Scottish than most, even sans accent. 



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I think it's just because the weather is too good in-game. :P



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Antiva is more of a mash-up between medieval Venice and medieval Spain

 

Ferelden is a mash up of medieval England, Scotland, and Wales

 

Qunari are loosely based on the Seljuk or Ottoman Turks

 

 



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Rivain is the most Spain though. 

 

As for Orlais, it's more Holy Roman Empire than anything. 



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How so? It doesn't consist of many small states that entirely govern themselves and elect an emperor.

 

The council of Heralds resemble the Polish-Lithuanian Sejm more than the HRE electors.


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Rivain is the most Spain though.

As for Orlais, it's more Holy Roman Empire than anything.


No, Orlais being France is probably the closest comparison of them all. Especially with the whole Orlesian Chantry being similar to the Avignion Papacy.

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Here is my view.

 

Tevinter: The Roman Empire during the Byzantine era
Orlais: France, specifically france during the 1500s and 1600s.
Ferelden: Anglo-saxon England if they kicked out Wiliam the conquerer(which they tried). 
Antiva: Italian republics crossed with spain. 
Nevarra: this is the hardest one. Their burial practices are a bit remensecent of Egypt. their kingdom is more traditional. I might go with the kingdom of Naples then.
Rivain: Medieval Ilberia; Rivain is split between the Qun and the kingdom of Rivain, just as medieval iberia was split between the christians and muslims. 
Free Marches: Italian City States
Anderfels: The closest would probaly be the kingdom of Jerusalem. The kings of both countries often were week with a great deal influence and power going to an order of military knights. 
Qunari: Confuctionist/Taosist Abbassids.
Orlesian Chantry: Catholic Church
Tevinter Chantry: Eastern Orthodox
 

 



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the Qun the Quran?

 

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Qunari don't act like vikings though. I get that they are big "men" with horns (vikings had horns in helmets) and when they sailed around they brang terror with them.. but Qunari are quite strict military force when vikings were more scattered bands of bandits who mostly robbed and killed villages of people cause they wanted their stuff and it was fun. They didn't seem to wide their territories nor convert other people to vikings. Or have I completely mistaken vikings?



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Nevarra is very reminiscent of Austria. The Free Marches are the German states. The Anderfels seem a little like medieval Prussia, with a military order effectively running the land. I could see a little Poland there as well, what with being on the fringes of White Thedas. Antiva is like one of the Italian states. Probably Venice. Rivain resembles medieval Spain, with the country split between religious groups. Orlais is pretty clearly France. Ferelden has similarities to Anglo-Saxon England. The Qunari stand in for the Muslim states in general, but they most resemble the Ottomans.