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Lord Erimond's proper judgement


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#26
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Always find it funny how he's trying to bring a demon army into the world, dam near destroyed the Grey Wardens, works for Coryphifish, yet when you make him tranquil you get mages screaming oppression popping up as a war table mission.

 

Yeah that was pretty lulzy. I kind of wish you could've put those idiots down hard.


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I wanted to, I wanted to so bad... but I practiced restraint. Tranquility is an alternative path, and a viable one, not a punishment. Using it as one will only set a precedent that will lead to its continued abuse in the future, while continuing the stigmatization and mistreatment of Tranquil.

 

This is pretty much the reason why I avoid it. 



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Plus, knowing there is a cure for tranquility... makes me think they could all easily come back and be a problem. A dead problem is a problem no longer. I don't care if he thinks he has the upper hand - he won't cause pain to anyone else.



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Don't you find out about the cure for tranquility after you get to judge him? 



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You can also tranquile Alexius and, i think, Calpernia.

 

Alexius, while he was working for Cory, was pretty sympathetic for me.  I'm a parent, I know there is nothing I wouldn't do to save (or try to save) my child.  I end up putting him to work with Leliana as an agent.  His subsequent wartable operation nets a pretty damn nice neck slot item, and he occupies a slot on her Secrets Perks so I have to purchase one less (if any) to get the Deft Hands perk which lets me open harder locked doors sooner.



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Eh what's really the chances of any good spirit coming to Erimond's aid though?


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Eh what's really the chances of any good spirit coming to Erimond's aid though?

I don't really consider this as much of a threat in this case, because as far as anyone can tell, curing tranquility doesn't automatically leave the person in any kind of state to pose a threat anyway, save for any magical ability he might regain. He is after all, just one mage, and the Inquisition has plenty more at its disposal and a complement of former Templars. 



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Alexius, while he was working for Cory, was pretty sympathetic for me.  I'm a parent, I know there is nothing I wouldn't do to save (or try to save) my child.  I end up putting him to work with Leliana as an agent.  His subsequent wartable operation nets a pretty damn nice neck slot item, and he occupies a slot on her Secrets Perks so I have to purchase one less (if any) to get the Deft Hands perk which lets me open harder locked doors sooner.

I was RP'ing a chantry fanatic (as far as it's possible for a qunari mage). I would have personally recruited him as well.

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As a rogue I killed him, because 'expletive' him. As a mage I did the same, making him tranquil felt hypocritical.



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I chose it once just to get it out of my system then reloaded to choose something less monstrous.

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My favorite is still the ruling for the templar you capture and use the history knowledge to send him into exile and from the sounds of it its very unpleasent.

Have to side with templars to do it though.

But for my first mage playhtrough made has many has I could traquil who needed it has punishment, unless they had other uses. Its a fititng punishment for a mage and what the rite was original meant for. well part of it.


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I don't care if all my companions greatly disprove, this man deserved everything and more.

 

"I will not lose myself"? Really? You mean like all the warden mages were made to lose themselves to your control, while you gleefully paraded around like a spoiled child getting an unexpected gift?

 

This is one character where going full cruelty felt more then fitting. I was going to grant him death, but hearing how completely unrepentant he was and seeing the damage he'd done, he really deserves nothing less then to be tranquil.

 

And who knows? Maybe his douchieness will be cured once his emotions get severely reduced, and he'll maybe become a better human being. I know him having emotions did jack all to make him close to decent.


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Eh what's really the chances of any good spirit coming to Erimond's aid though?

 

In theory, a bad spirit can do it too.

 

An undercover mage agent (lol mage-nt) under Cory's employ could also take advantage of Tranquil!Erimond's freedom to walk around Skyhold and -- disguised as one of many pilgrims to the fortress -- summon some spirit to cure his Tranquility.

 

Don't get cute, I say (tempting though the option may be). Capital punishment exists for the extremely dangerous, which Erimond clearly is.


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It was pretty delicious I'm not even gonna lie.

 

I still think it's a shame I couldn't tranquil Fiona but I guess killing her is fine compensation.



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I did it myself and I didn't regret it. Even though mages weren't happy with it. 



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My favorite is still the ruling for the templar you capture and use the history knowledge to send him into exile and from the sounds of it its very unpleasent.

Have to side with templars to do it though.

But for my first mage playhtrough made has many has I could traquil who needed it has punishment, unless they had other uses. Its a fititng punishment for a mage and what the rite was original meant for. well part of it.

 

If you do Cassandra's personal quest, you find out that no, Tranquility was not developed as a punishment for mages, not even part of it.  It became abused for that purpose later.  And not only mages can be Tranquilled.  Apparently anyone can.

 

Spoiler


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Don't you find out about the cure for tranquility after you get to judge him? 

Not really - I explored Western Approach and came across codex entries on curing tranquility prior to talking to Hawke on that map. Can't remember if the notes/journal's I came across explicitly stated tranquility could be cured, but it was talking about a possible cure for it, tracking it down, and tranquil being able to still feel/summon/be-effected-by spirits.



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I don't care if all my companions greatly disprove, this man deserved everything and more.
 
"I will not lose myself"? Really? You mean like all the warden mages were made to lose themselves to your control, while you gleefully paraded around like a spoiled child getting an unexpected gift?
 
This is one character where going full cruelty felt more then fitting. I was going to grant him death, but hearing how completely unrepentant he was and seeing the damage he'd done, he really deserves nothing less then to be tranquil.
 
And who knows? Maybe his douchieness will be cured once his emotions get severely reduced, and he'll maybe become a better human being. I know him having emotions did jack all to make him close to decent.


This X 10. Erimond and Samson were the only two I judged that I wanted to go full on sadist.

Sure, there's a cure for tranquility. He's not going to get it though. Why would he? Corypheus doesn't care about him, or anyone else. Even if he does get cured, chances are that being resorted by a positive attribute spirit will vastly change him from the man he was.

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In theory, a bad spirit can do it too.

 

An undercover mage agent (lol mage-nt) under Cory's employ could also take advantage of Tranquil!Erimond's freedom to walk around Skyhold and -- disguised as one of many pilgrims to the fortress -- summon some spirit to cure his Tranquility.

 

Don't get cute, I say (tempting though the option may be). Capital punishment exists for the extremely dangerous, which Erimond clearly is.

 

Demons (bad spirits) tend to avoid the tranquil though.

 

Also why would Cory be bothered going out of his way for someone who failed him?



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The rite of tranquility is disgusting. Off with his head and be done with it.



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If you do Cassandra's personal quest, you find out that no, Tranquility was not developed as a punishment for mages, not even part of it.  It became abused for that purpose later.  And not only mages can be Tranquilled.  Apparently anyone can.

 

Spoiler

Oh I know, my mage just didn't really beilvie anything cass said about that, not like she let him read that book.



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Also why would Cory be bothered going out of his way for someone who failed him?

 

Asset recovery?

 

Sounds like the demon/spirit restores magic as well.



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Asset recovery?

 

Sounds like the demon/spirit restores magic as well.

 

Why would Cory care about one asset that failed him? That goes completely against what we know of him.

 

Yeah but they'd want to get something out of it.



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I achieved that on my first play-through.

 

Isn't it only available to mage Inquisitors though?



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If there's anyone Tranquility should be used on, it's this guy.


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