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KingChaos913

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Please check out this thread on the technical support forums. I'm just helping get the word out, this might explain the majority of players poor performance problems! http://answers.ea.co...ht/false#M31646


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Cant say I've experienced any of the issues. If he's in contact with tier 2 support, who is he?



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That would explain a lot of my problems. Here's to hoping.


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Cant say I've experienced any of the issues. If he's in contact with tier 2 support, who is he?

You're one of the lucky ones not experiencing these problems. And to who exactly they are, I'm not sure, but they wouldn't have been able to get this information by themselves.



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Please check out this thread on the technical support forums. I'm just helping get the word out, this might explain the majority of players poor performance problems! http://answers.ea.co...ht/false#M31646

 

"..Origin and Windows are arguing over who is in control of the game, and this is what causes 

the dxgi_device hung_    error...""

 

PC here.

CPU ------------AMD FX-6300

GPU------------Radeon 7770

PSU-------------550 Watts

RAM------------8 GB

 

Notice it is nowhere near a high-end hardware gaming rig.

 

No freezes or crashes with my system. However, I have removed Origins-in-game Overlay. Well, I set everything in Origins to OFF. Perhaps that helps me avoid that issue.

 

".. All of the issues that everyone is facing, regardless of platform, cannot be fixed, player-side. IT IS A CODING ISSUE within the game, that BioWare will have to address themselves..."

 

That is a very nasty revelation.

 

Oh... I love this one. see below:

 

".. Best case scenario... a few patches....
Worst case scenario... game pulled, and reworked from the ground up
.."

 

Thank you KingChaos913 for this tidbit of information.


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KingChaos913

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"..Origin and Windows are arguing over who is in control of the game, and this is what causes 

the dxgi_device hung_    error...""

 

PC here.

CPU ------------AMD FX-6300

GPU------------Radeon 7770

PSU-------------550 Watts

RAM------------8 GB

 

Notice it is nowhere near a high-end hardware gaming rig.

 

No freezes or crashes with my system. However, I have removed Origins-in-game Overlay. Well, I set everything in Origins to OFF. Perhaps that helps me avoid that issue.

 

".. All of the issues that everyone is facing, regardless of platform, cannot be fixed, player-side. IT IS A CODING ISSUE within the game, that BioWare will have to address themselves..."

 

That is a very nasty revelation.

 

Oh... I love this one. see below:

 

".. Best case scenario... a few patches....
Worst case scenario... game pulled, and reworked from the ground up
.."

 

Thank you KingChaos913 for this tidbit of information.

My pleasure friend! ;) The thanks should go to middlefngrsalute on the EA Answer HQ forums. I just helped provide the information to you guys. And yes, turning off Origins-in-game Overlay really does help, perhaps that's why I don't experience crashes as well. I've only gotten one directx error crash out of all the time that I've played, but I can't seem to remember whether or not I had the overlay off at that time.



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Bump.



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Spectre Impersonator

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I was hoping this thread was going to have a link to digital viagra for my Xbox.  :(


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KingChaos913

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I was hoping this thread was going to have a link to digital viagra for my Xbox.  :(

I could have done it :P. But in all seriousness, people who are experiencing poor performance and CTD's really want these problems fixed asap. It's not fun spending your hard earned money on a game that has problems that should have been addressed before the game released. -_-



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Holy cow!, this is like the biggest screw up of the century in my books, so I will have to uninstall the game (update my drivers again) and hope that they come out with a good patch in the future, hoping that they can actually patch it instead of pulling the game and rework on it.

 

From my perspective, this is why games (if they are multiplatform) they should be tested properly on all platforms, I always felt that DA: I wasn't a very polished product for pc, I think Bioware fell into the same crap other devs have pulled "now it's all next gen consoles/middle finger for our old fanbase of PC users". I hope this wouldn't happen, but it keeps happening...I guess from now on I will not expect anything good to come out for PC if it's full of bugs and performance issues just because the devs didn't tested it properly.

 

Gotta say this, Bioware is kinda reminding me of Ubisoft...and I don't buy anything from them anymore, last game I got was AC: Revelations :/.



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DirextX Errors and Crashes

because of the misallocation of resources, it is suspected that the crashes (with nvidia gpus) is being caused by timeouts.

Basically what is happening is that Origin and Windows are arguing over who is in control of the game, and this is what causes 

the dxgi_device hung_    error...

and why the graphics card drivers are re-enabled by windows once you get out of the game and close it down.

 

 

So this is the reason why I'm having so many DirectX errors such as this below:

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My game freezes up prior to giving me this CTD error.

 

Bioware/EA must love torturing us to death by forcing us to install their defective Origin software that is known to cause conflict with the main OS. 

 

Whatever happen to the idea that you come back to the website to download the latest version of the software? With Torrents so popular as it is... You would think EA/Bioware would ditch this piece of trash Origin software, and depend on torrents for their upgrades and patches.

 

I had no idea just how much of a pain in the ass owning a legit copy of a game can be.



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Last night I crashed three times in about 10 minutes… and turns out, Origin had an update it wanted to install. I do have In Game already disabled, but I’d be inclined to believe there’s something here.



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Last night I crashed three times in about 10 minutes… and turns out, Origin had an update it wanted to install. I do have In Game already disabled, but I’d be inclined to believe there’s something here.

 

This happened to me, back when I first read in the forums that there were a lot of issues with the first patch I decided to disable the automatic downloads, played the game for like about half an hour when it started to crash and origin kept telling me to install the updates, at the end it didn't let me play the game without the freakin updates...

Now I have to download the game again and hope that Origin allows me to play it without crashing me again back to desktop.



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I'm amazed that people don't reflexively untick the Origin overlay as soon as they install it. Its not like it provides any benefit.

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Lord Raijin

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I lost count at how many times I've crashed with the same DirectX error from last night. I have the quality set on low to all so I'm not expecting much in graphic quality. It does bother me a great deal that Origin is the main source of problem to what I'm experiencing. I wonder if I would be having this same exact problem if I wasn't force to play the game under Origin.



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I haven't run into a single DirectX error.

Have any of you tried installing the stand-alone Direct X installer, not the web based one?

The web based one won't work for Windows 8/8.1, but the stand alone installer did. I always make sure to install this on a gaming system and I never CTD. It seems to install a bunch of files that DirectX sometimes expects to be there which don't seem to be part of the standard Windows Installation.

This is the one I install on every system. It seems to take care of many DirectX errors:

http://www.microsoft...ls.aspx?id=8109

This one is specific for Windows 8.1 64-bit systems, you may have already installed this through updating at another time:

http://www.microsoft...s.aspx?id=40757

This one is specific for Windows 7 SP1, you may have already installed this through updating at another time:

http://www.microsoft...s.aspx?id=36805

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KingAgamemnon

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I had a few hiccups here and there on my first playthrough, but after the recent patches...wow. It's like I'm trying to run Crysis on a toaster, and my PC is by no means low-tier.



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I haven't run into a single DirectX error. Have any of you tried installing the stand alone Direct X installer, not the web based one? The web based one won't work for Windows 8/8.1, but the stand alone installer did. I always make sure to install that on a gaming system and I never CTD.

 

I went to C:\Program Files (x86)\Origin Games\Dragon Age Inquisition\__Installer\directx\redist and manually installed the driver by clicking on the DXSETUP.exe file. Didn't seem to stop the freeze and then CTD with the DirectX error.

 

This is my DxDiag report

 

http://hastebin.com/adejureqed.tex



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I have noticed that when I am getting serious lag on my PC, it is because Dropbox for some reason uses 25% CPU, and since DAI normally floats around 70-85% CPU, that is going to cause issues.

 

Funny thing is that Dropbox CPU usage disappears once I shut down the game. Whether that is coincidence or some conflict going on somewhere, I don't know. Usually I can restart the game and the lagging issue disappears. So if the game affects Dropbox, it doesn't do so everytime.



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Interesting reading. I'm not having severe issues running with a single GTX780 Ti, 850W Seasonic PSU, 16GB of memory, and Win7 64-bit. Sometimes the game seems to hitch a bit like it's loading something, but overall the FPS seems pretty smooth.



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A lot of the lag coming from crowding actually comes from CPU usage… overclocking (or upgrading) is an extremely good way to get more performance out of what may look like graphics lag. Increasing RAM is another option—at 8 GB, it is not at all unlikely to start hitting the edges, which forces swapping, which then peaks your CPU again.



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With nVidia’s 347.09, I’m constantly running at 97-99% GPU usage, even overclocked, so I tried the 344.65 driver. Here’s the thing. It actually does reduce GPU utilization noticeably. However, it also reduces my FPS by a couple.

 

I’m not sure it’s worth it. I prefer pretty over smooth, so I’m happy running somewhere around 30-40 FPS but dropping even a few more is an entirely different matter than going from 60 to 55. It’s possible it’d be more stable with more headroom… testing it is kind of hard, because either there is serendipity, or then having nvidia inspector’s monitor graphs open seems to introduce more occasional drops than when it’s closed.



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I had some poor performance.. then i took these blue pills..