Did you leave him to rot in prison to eventually be hanged because of what he did or did you commit the crime of smuggling a wanted criminal out to be judged by you instead?
My respect for the character went down immensely when I had "Revelations" pop up. Wow. Took me by surprise.
Yeah i was surprised by that one as well, although admittedly I did think Blackwall was acting a little odd...and was rather vague when I asked him questions regarding the Wardens.
I rescued him and let him off scot-free. I was playing a more forgiving character, plus I wanted his loyalty, give him a second chance and to hear more about him. Unfortunately he wouldn't expand on his past self which was a little disappointing. I really wanted to tell him to stop using Blackwalls name and to use his real name instead...sadly not an option.
he stayed with ya for so long prior in hopes of doing something good enough he could forgive himself a little bit, so i took pity on him. I allowed him to service the inquisition to work off his grief and self-hate. A sword-arm that strong doesn't deserve to be wasted on a noose.
I didn't know what the twist was going to be, but I was unsurprised that he wasn't a Warden, really. That guy didn't know **** about the Grey Wardens. But I've not just played the game but read all the books and the WoT (where there is an actual speech from the real Blackwall, though it's in the Codex in this game too - you have to get it in Leliana's rookery at Skyhold) so I may be more critical than most to mix ups. He didn't seem anything like the Blackwall referenced previously.
I made him become a Warden all 3 times I've played so far. Maybe someday I'll exile him but haven't done it yet. When I romance him (plan on doing it with a Carta Dwarf Archer), I don't think I'll even have him become a Warden (just forgive him), but we'll see.
Freedom to atone in the Inquisition, after using Josephine's connections to judge him. The way I see it, the man who committed those crimes is effectively dead. He was metaphorically killed when the real Blackwall sacrificed his life to save the "worthless" Thom Rainier. That act turned Rainier's life around, made him actually value courage and self-sacrifice. The person he is now is willing to put his life on the line again and again to protect others. To have him executed would be to squander the real Blackwall's sacrifice. Better for him to live and do the best he can with his life.
I understand the demands of justice, but for me mercy is stronger, and in a sense the real Blackwall already paid for Rainier's crime.
Both games I've done so far I sent him to the wardens after Corypheus was downed (the second time i romanced him). I felt he was trying to make something better of himself, but he was also hiding from his past. He doesn't start coming into his own until he owns up to what he did. Thom has punished himself and rehabilitated himself far better than I ever could, and another death, what purpose would it serve at this point? Thom has effectively 'killed' that man who slaughtered that family.
Blackwall saw something in Thom worth bringing into the Wardens. He died before he could act on that and put him through the Joining. Traditionally joining the wardens is seen as a suitable 'punishment' for crimes like murder and theft (look to the DN and CE origins and Loghain's induction for evidence of that), and by doing so I felt my Inquisitors were honoring Blackwall's (the grey warden, not the imposter) dying wish for Thom.
Let him rot, of course. Justice is not negotiable. May the Maker have mercy with him.
I was romancing him at the time and took great joy in ripping his heart out with the 'I never loved you' dialogue option. However, I couldn't resist saving him and continuing the relationship. I highly recommended it if you like angst.
I wanted to put him through the joining but I was afraid of losing him from my party because I thought the Grey Wardens were an immediate and not post-game thing.
(to SebastianP) Wait, you can say that to him and still continue the romance or did you reload?
I released him to the wardens since that is exactly what he wanted to be. A grey warden. He just had bad luck that blackwall died before that happend.
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Gave him to the Wardens when we're done with Cory. Felt the right thing to do, i couldnt let him walk free after that, and couldnt condemn him either.
I did exactly this for the same reason. I feel terrible though as I just cant like the character.
I let him atone for his actions by helping the Inquisition, but giving him to the Wardens after.
Its really the most "just" judgement in my view. He was already going to the Warden's before the real Blackwall died, and he had a lot of people killed, that's not exactly something you can walk away from. I say let him help the Inquisition, and then give him to the Taint. He's not exactly young, so its not like the Taint will cut his life much shorter anyway. Odds are he would die of old age (back then, people pretty much died at 50) or battle before his Calling anyway.
Plus, it is the option that gets the most approval from him (I think). He actually wants to become a Warden. He doesn't want to just be "set free". He wants to know he can do something to atone for his men. I gave it to him. Serve the Inquisition at the Inquisitor's side, then take the Joining and serve as a Grey Warden.
Did you leave him to rot in prison to eventually be hanged because of what he did or did you commit the crime of smuggling a wanted criminal out to be judged by you instead?
My respect for the character went down immensely when I had "Revelations" pop up. Wow. Took me by surprise.
I let him go free.
Did it strike anyone else that the situation with Blackwall is very similar to the situation with Sten? Both killed innocent people for the basest of motives. The difference is that Sten is upfront about his crime.
The crime itself is horrific. After his deception is revealed, Blackwall can have a banter with Cole where Cole relives Blackwall's attack on the general and his family, from Blackwall's perspective. It's disturbing.
I give him to the Grey Wardens once Corypheus is dealt with. I feel like he was meant to be a Warden especially when the real Blackwall conscript him, as Dorian say the real Blackwall must saw something in the man, and I want to give him a chance to atone for his sins in the past, a chance for Blackwall to redeem himself. I think I just set him on a good path so he can fight for a worthy cause to protect the innocent. Frankly, he approves of that decision more than setting him free.
He is a Gray Warden, joining or no joining.Blackwall saw potential in Rainer and pardoned him by making Rainer a Warden.Becoming a Gray Warden isn't about the joining, it is about a promise to protect others.To me, Rainer(Blackwall) has become a true Warden.He is alive and free.
(to SebastianP) Wait, you can say that to him and still continue the romance or did you reload?
You can still continue the romance, he even calls you out on the 'I never loved you' and refuses to believe it.
His death won't easy any minds, giving him to the wardens have been my most common choice so he can have an attempt at the life his ideal had intended for him.
He serves better doing good, or at least killing bad things. He's of no use dead.
Atonement under the Inquisitor
I actually did this with an Inquisitor that was not romancing him, but another Inquisitor who had culminated a romance with Warden Blackwall, felt betrayed and left him to rot.
I gave him to the wardens after Coryfish was defeated. If he's going to throw the name around, he might as well join for real.
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I basically told him he would have to go join the Wardens for real after the Inquisition was done with him. To me the revelation of his crime was pretty much a non-issue. He *had* been recruited. He was actually going to try to become a Grey Warden. Murderers and thieves and all sorts of lowlifes become Wardens all the time. This is totally not new or particularly surprising. He just had the dumb luck to have his recruiter die at the most ill-advised time possible. His biggest offense where the Inquisition is concerned is lying about it and potentially letting the Inquisition falsely use the Grey Warden treaties. (To be honest, I was sort of skeptical about using those even before I knew what he was. It seemed a little too much like exploiting loopholes and Grey Warden treaties absolutely shouldn't be abused. Those are treaties that should not loose their authority due to misuse). At this point though, he had successfully talked actual Grey Wardens into joining our cause so a lot of the harm was mitigated. In any event, it wasn't an offense worth executing him over and his "sentence" for his past crimes was to try to join the Wardens in the first place.
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