My next playthroughs will send him to the Wardens, but my main Inquisitor felt that justice needed to be served for his victims and eventually decided to leave him in prison. I'd been playing him like he was someone who saw it as his duty to mete out punishment to evildoers. Plus Rainer wanted to stay in prison, so in this case it felt like the respect he had come to feel for him beforehand was enough to give him what he asked for.
So....Blackwall; what did you do?
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#127
Posté 21 avril 2016 - 08:05
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I never saw it coming! All the blatant "clues" I just put down to bad writing!Lol how could you have been surprised by Blackwall's revelation? I knew he wasn't really a Warden from pretty much Crestwood on.
#128
Posté 21 avril 2016 - 10:23
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Sent him to the Wardens.
The thing is, Rainier didn't realize that he already was a Grey Warden when Blackwall told him to go fetch to Darkspawn blood: it's not the Joining that makes one a Grey Warden, it's being handpicked by a Warden higher up, and since being conscripted in the order counts as amnesty, it was actually illegal to sentence Rainier for already forgiven crimes.
I, as a player, already knew that, and I decided that since Warden fangirl Leliana was part of the Inquisitor's inner circle, it made sense that she'd have briefed him about Grey Warden rules as soon as news of Rainier's arrest reached her.
Therefore, Wardens.
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#129
Posté 22 avril 2016 - 01:26
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What does someone do if they don't like killing people? 
Every choice for Blackwall seemed like it was going to upset him.
#130
Posté 03 mai 2016 - 09:28
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I never saw it coming! All the blatant "clues" I just put down to bad writing!
If you go to the Storm Coast with Cassandra and Blackwall and you have the "close the darkspawn tunnels" quest active, their party banter is really clever.
She gives you really specific advice like "That hurlock is going to be a problem, we must be careful" and he goes "The one with the big armour is going to be tough".
There are other insances of this, but this one made me chuckle.
I always pardon Thom, because I believe he is genuinely sorry and has been trying to make up for his past mistakes.
#132
Posté 03 mai 2016 - 01:12
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Does he regret. He was helpful and useful to the The Inquisition.
Well, he got his position back.
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#133
Posté 03 mai 2016 - 06:42
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I couldn't excuse the murder of children, not even for a second. I left him to his fate he richly deserved. No matter what he had done to try to 'easy' his guilt, to seek absolution the life and death of four children cannot be bought with a 'another chance'.
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#134
Posté 03 mai 2016 - 06:55
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I couldn't excuse the murder of children, not even for a second. I left him to his fate he richly deserved. No matter what he had done to try to 'easy' his guilt, to seek absolution the life and death of four children cannot be bought with a 'another chance'.
No forgiveness I would call it, perhaps rather clemency.
I think he really wanted to be punished. I'm not saying he deserves, but I think not the bad choice get him out of jail.
#135
Posté 03 mai 2016 - 08:05
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Most of my Inky's have done worse in their respective lives before the conclave. Ergo Rainier is freed and the damn wardens have no say in it.
#136
Posté 03 mai 2016 - 08:45
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If I recall 1st game I tossed him in jail. My second game I was going to do something totally different but I screwed up at some point in time, perhaps I never visited him enough and he just disappeared from the game with some vague reference of being who he really was.
#137
Posté 04 mai 2016 - 12:53
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My canon (and personal opinion) is that Blackwall should be sent to the Wardens. The inquisitor deals out harsher punishments to prisoners who committed crimes equal to Blackwall, and yet Blackwall gets off scott-free? It doesn't seem right. I have other playthroughs where I "forgave" him, but looking at the other judgments, it's not really justice to simply let him go free.
#138
Posté 04 mai 2016 - 02:08
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Did you leave him to rot in prison to eventually be hanged because of what he did or did you commit the crime of smuggling a wanted criminal out to be judged by you instead?
My respect for the character went down immensely when I had "Revelations" pop up. Wow. Took me by surprise.
If I had my way, I would have gone to the family of the people he ordered killed and asked them to let me judge him. Then I would have gone to whoever was emperor/empress, since at that point they DEFINITELY OWED ME A FAVOR and said "the family says it's okay, turn him over to me".
Why all this cloak and dagger stuff? JUST ASK.
#139
Posté 04 mai 2016 - 08:08
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I was "forced" to go deal with his quest because I was in the middle of a "A Girl Who Wants For Nothing" and he was the only one left to talk to. I brought him back using Josie's connections and while initially I figured giving him to the the Wardens made the most sense I ended up just forgiving him outright as that felt more in character for my Inquisitor. Can't say I wasn't worried about finishing the Sera quest though. Anyone know what happens if you leave Blackwall behind while needing to talk to him to complete AGWWFN?
#140
Posté 04 mai 2016 - 10:31
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I have played DA Inquisition now for the 9th time and only one time i pardoned him ( just to see what was going to happen ) but i will not do that again he deserves to rot in prison ( he killed an innocent woman and her children ) and i have no remorse of letting him rot in prison that is the place that he deserves.
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#141
Posté 04 mai 2016 - 10:36
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I have played DA Inquisition now for the 9th time and only one time i pardoned him ( just to see what was going to happen ) but i will not do that again he deserves to rot in prison ( he killed an innocent woman and her children ) and i have no remorse of letting him rot in prison that is the place that he deserves.
That seems to be the correct answer.
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#142
Posté 04 mai 2016 - 10:38
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Most of my Inky's have done worse in their respective lives before the conclave. Ergo Rainier is freed and the damn wardens have no say in it.
I cannot recall that you as your Inquisitor ever had the choice of killing innocent women and children.
#143
Posté 04 mai 2016 - 10:41
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That seems to be the correct answer.
Thank you.
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#144
Posté 04 mai 2016 - 11:46
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@Patricia: Oh really? Being born inte the Thedas equivalent of Pablo Escobars cartel. Working your way up the ladder of that organisation and not using the friends and families of the mark in order to put the sqeeze on them? Don't think so.
Or...
Some shems wandering in the wrong part of the woods at the wrong time. Twaannnnng!
*sips Serrice ice brandy*
#145
Posté 04 mai 2016 - 11:53
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@Patricia: Oh really? Being born inte the Thedas equivalent of Pablo Escobars cartel. Working your way up the ladder of that organisation and not using the friends and families of the mark in order to put the sqeeze on them? Don't think so.
Or...
Some shems wandering in the wrong part of the woods at the wrong time. Twaannnnng!
*sips Serrice ice brandy*
Sorry but i have no idea what you are talking about here.
#146
Posté 04 mai 2016 - 12:18
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I never let him rot in prison - he's the best tank in the game! I usually forgive him which binds him to the Inquisition but in this last PT I gave him to the wardens as it felt in character for my inquisitor. Hell, in this last PT I even tolerated Sera until the end! 
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#148
Posté 04 mai 2016 - 09:07
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Anaan Adaar, pardoned him, mostly because that's my 'test' run, where I want to try and experience things as much as I can.
Malcolm Trevalyen said he wanted to think it over, and decided to leave him in prison, believing that the Inquisition had no place judging his responsibility.
Kost Adaar decided right away to leave him to rot, not forgiving the fact that he lied to the faces of the other members of the Inquisition for the better part of however long the main game runs (I say at least a year, more or less). That broken trust was a line too far for him.
My other three Inquisitors didn't recruit him in the first place, because I'm not very comfortable of Blackwall in general.
#149
Posté 05 mai 2016 - 09:10
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Sorry but i have no idea what you are talking about here.
Cadash is Carta. Crime family, mafia, drug lords. Adaar is a sword for hire, hired by Orlesian noblemen most likely. Doing what Rainier did for the money. In DAO you get to play out your hate for shems as a dalish warden the first thing you do. Just shoot them down for walking down the wrong path. Why should DAI be any different?
If you prefer to write up a more benevolent back-story for your character that is fine, I do as well for some, but most of them have been no strangers to random acts of violence.
#150
Posté 05 mai 2016 - 09:28
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Cadash is Carta. Crime family, mafia, drug lords. Adaar is a sword for hire, hired by Orlesian noblemen most likely. Doing what Rainier did for the money. In DAO you get to play out your hate for shems as a dalish warden the first thing you do. Just shoot them down for walking down the wrong path. Why should DAI be any different?
If you prefer to write up a more benevolent back-story for your character that is fine, I do as well for some, but most of them have been no strangers to random acts of violence.
Uhm i have never played DA O and DA II i only know my Inquisitor from Inquisition and in that game i just cannot recall being that evil that i killed innocent women and children.
