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[Mathias]

Is there any mention whatsover about any of Shepard's organs being Synthetic? Or that it was being used by Husk technology? Just what are the extent of Shepard's synthetic implants? 

[Han Shot First]

All you really have to go on are the Lazarus Project flashbacks in the beginning of ME2. That, and I suppose some of the upgrades you get throughout the series like synthetic bone weave. Mostly Shepard seems to be a mix of organic and synthetic. As far as organs go, his eyes appear to be fully synthetic. They light up and appear mechanical when interfacing with the Prothean beacons on Eden Prime in the From Ashes DLC.

[Vazgen]

Skeleton, muscle and skin are reinforced with tech if you take the upgrades.

Heavy Bone Weave (Skeletal Lattice)

By reinforcing the skeleton with a synthetic weave, bones can be made almost unbreakable. In the event of bone trauma, medi-gel conduits allow for bone regenerations in a matter of days.

Heavy Muscle Weave (Microfiber Weave)

Perforating the muscles with micro-fibers increases overall strength and decreases the potential for muscle damage from exertion.

Heavy Skin Weave 1 - 7 (Lattice Shunting)

Strong synthetic fibers can be woven through the skin, dramatically reducing damage taken from most attacks. These fibers also act as a medi-gel conduit, improving healing.

Come to think of it, if Shepard can do these upgrades between the missions without any negative impact on combat performance, his organism must have the capacity for it, thus I think he already has those upgrades to a certain degree. 

Like Han mentioned, eyes appear synthetic too, or at least implanted.

[Ashevajak]

Precisely?  34.782%.

[Han Shot First]

[themikefest]

According to Joker its about 30%

http://youtu.be/k9A2D4Kt8PQ?t=1m40s

[Kantr]

Is Shepard brain dead while they are doing that?

[Valmar]

Vazgen summed it up pretty well, imo. Though Im actually skeptical that he has synthetic organs. That kinda takes away for the need of a Shepard clone for spare parts. At the same time we see Shepard can drink poison and other liquids that are suppose to be lethal to humans yet he walks away from it fine. He's been dosed heavily with meds to keep him asleep but he still wakes up. Glowing red scars from the cybernetics and eyes.... Personally I think, rather than synthetic organs, his organs are 'chipped' with cybernetic implants

Spoiler

 

He also seems to have some form of nanites that flow through his body and repair damage, as we see in the intro video. They inject his carcass with them and the organic tissue starts to 'come to life' as it were. So its possible that the implants and nanites are what protect his organs rather than having the organs themselves be synthetic. Again, they did have a clone hanging around for spare parts. This would not be required if they were using synthetic organs, imo. Plus look at the video Han provides - notice the heart goes from being dead and damaged to suddenly healthy and pumping from the injection. Not replaced.

 

I don't think his organs are synthetic, I just think he has a bunch of synthetic crap flowing through them and cybernetics attached to them perhaps to help regulate things.

 

As for the connection to the husk technology... I'd have to say yes to that. The Illusive Man has been studying husk tech for some time and he isn't above using reaper technology to reach his own goals (EDI, for example) so it seems reasonable that whatever they used to bring Shepard back was at least partially based on the husk technology. Husk tech does have the same overall properties, afterall. A charred corpse can be impaled, filled with reaper nanites and then suddenly be revived. We see Shepard being filled with SOMETHING and the dead, charred tissue comes back to life and starts repairing itself. I wouldn't go as far as to say its the exact same tech used to create husks but I wouldn't be surprised if its at least based off it.

 

Mike already covered the percentage.

[Iakus]

The answer is "Enough"

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

According to Joker its about 30%

http://youtu.be/k9A2D4Kt8PQ?t=1m40s

 

Her back lights up during sex. I like that nod to the Cylons.

 

We've had the discussion about Shepard's brain. I would imagine it is dead, and had to be reanimated. Probably has a gray box implanted in it. The Illusive Man spared no expense. So the thing at the end about whether Shepard lives or dies, is now living in what state? Vegetative? Since in all likelihood all synthetic parts would be destroyed.

 

Face it. The ending sucked.

[MegaIllusiveMan]

There is also a conversation with EDI Aboard the Normandy in ME3 in which she says that Shepard's brain is fully organic.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

Okay fully organic. Grown from stem cells, and had a compiled set of memories that Cerberus manufactured implanted.

[teh DRUMPf!!]

So the thing at the end about whether Shepard lives or dies, is now living in what state?

 

Nugget!!   

[Han Shot First]

Vazgen summed it up pretty well, imo. Though Im actually skeptical that he has synthetic organs. 

 

 

While I agree with most of what you wrote, Shepard does have at least one organ that is synthetic: his or her eyes. There are a couple sequences throughout the series where it looks like something mechanical is going on with Shepard's eyes. This is particularly true if you go the frankenstein-monster Renegade route, but you can also see it for paragon Sheps in a couple cutscenes where some kind of retina or facial scan is going on and the eyes light up.

[laudable11]

Yeah. Of all the organs to be destroyed during atmospheric reentry the eyes seem the most likely.

[Valmar]

While I agree with most of what you wrote, Shepard does have at least one organ that is synthetic: his or her eyes. There are a couple sequences throughout the series where it looks like something mechanical is going on with Shepard's eyes. This is particularly true if you go the frankenstein-monster Renegade route, but you can also see it for paragon Sheps in a couple cutscenes where some kind of retina or facial scan is going on and the eyes light up.

 

Ah, yeah. I agree. I mentioned cybernetic eyes. Difference is I wasn't counting the eyes as an organ. Technically I know that they are (even the skin is, isn't it?) but I was talking more along the lines of liver, lungs, heart, stomach, ect.

 

Also, you're talking to someone who mods the game to always give Shepard the highest degree of scarring regardless of morality. So I definitely know.

[JasonShepard]

Okay fully organic. Grown from stem cells, and had a compiled set of memories that Cerberus manufactured implanted.

 

Cerberus manufactured memories... that somehow include accurate details of private conversations that Shepard had in ME1? (I'm thinking of the Tali Geth-data conversation, although I'm sure there are other examples. The Prothean-Cypher and beacon message spring to mind too...)
 

One way or another, it seems Cerberus managed to get the original Shepard back.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

Yeah. Of all the organs to be destroyed during atmospheric reentry the eyes seem the most likely.

 

It's atmospheric entry, not re-entry. Re-entry implies that Shepard was in the atmosphere, left, and then returned.

 

Shepard's eyes were synthetic. Real eyes don't glow red. Unless Shepard really was the Arch Demon. Dooomaaaaht.

[RanetheViking]

All you really have to go on are the Lazarus Project flashbacks in the beginning of ME2. That, and I suppose some of the upgrades you get throughout the series like synthetic bone weave. Mostly Shepard seems to be a mix of organic and synthetic. As far as organs go, his eyes appear to be fully synthetic. They light up and appear mechanical when interfacing with the Prothean beacons on Eden Prime in the From Ashes DLC.

I always thought that when Sheps eyes lit green, in the From Ashes DLC, that it was just artistic representation of the Prothean Cypher in his head. Green being the Prothy's favourite colour and all.

[Valmar]

I always thought that when Sheps eyes lit green, in the From Ashes DLC, that it was just artistic representation of the Prothean Cypher in his head. Green being the Prothy's favourite colour and all.

 

That is possible, though we see similar things with the eyes even back in ME2. Remember, for example, the Overlord DLC? Shepard's vision was 'hacked' by David, resulting in temporary glowing green eyes and seeing a virtual world around him. At the same time however Shepard's eyes don't change color when you interact with the prothean artifact that gives you the vision of the collectors in ME2. So this could very well just be one of many little inconsistencies in the story.

 

However, even if you pass it off as just being an artistic choice (which I do, actually, though not specifically to the prothean cypher) one cannot overlook all the telling signs that Shepard's eyes from ME2 onward are in fact cybernetic.

 

[RanetheViking]

Yeah, I guess it's an inconsistency alright. I guess I'll just have to 'canon' that it's the Cypher in the Ashes DLC and an early attempt at the space magic/ hippie Synthesis type thing in Overlord.

 

But as for the pic, that was another thing that always bugged me. That they could rebuild Shep, who was 'dead' (or dead-ish), but they couldn't fix the scars on his mug or give him 'organic' eyes. Grown from a clone or something.

 

Instead he looks like Arnie  "the Terminator" Shwarzenegger. I mean really, would you buy a car from him, or follow someone who looked like that?

[Valmar]

I don't believe it is a matter of 'they couldn't' but rather they didn't have the time. Remember Shepard was woken up prematurely from his... treatment. They didn't have the time to finish the cosmetic details. Miranda even mentions this in one of the first lines of dialogue as you're waking up on the slab. I have no doubt that they could have done it, if they wanted to or had more time.

 

Also you're speaking to a guy who purposely mods the game to maintain the scars at all time. So. Bias. Lol.

[RanetheViking]

That's funny. I always spend that 50 k platinum to get rid of them.

[themikefest]

It's atmospheric entry, not re-entry. Re-entry implies that Shepard was in the atmosphere, left, and then returned.

 

Shepard's eyes were synthetic. Real eyes don't glow red. Unless Shepard really was the Arch Demon. Dooomaaaaht.

But Shepard was in DAI. She disguised herself as the fake archdemon. I mean she is seen spitting out red glowing fire instead orangey fire. After the Inquisitor killed her, she went back in Cory's body to power him up and now is stuck in the fade after the Inquisitor sent her there. I smell a Shepardemon for DA4. Or better yet, she will be in the next Terminator movie. Remember what Arnie said? I'll be back. Hahahaha

[Massa FX]

Back in 2012 there were discussions concerning a defibrillator implant to restart Shepards heart (as seen when Shep arrives in the Citadel dead body corridor and is jerked awake without any external influence). It looks like s/he's jump started. Is that considered a synthetic body part? 

 

The heart itself is seen in ME2 intro and it looks "normal".