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[Flog the Undying]

Yes.

[Jazharah]

You can refute your reputation as Herald, and the Maker, every time it comes up. You can be an atheist through and through.

[yankblan]

I do.

[KaiserShep]

It seems you can be religious, totally irreligious and anything in-between, which is where my Inquisitor is.

[Friera]

Religion never made much sense to me, and Dragon Age is no different. Are there options to reject claims that you are the Herald Of Andraste and anything to do with the Maker? Or do you have to choose these options?

 

YES! And it feels good.  I never liked the whole Maker/religion, and it kinda bugged me in DA2/Origins.

 

On my first playthrough  I rejected anything about the Maker, and flat out said I did not believe in the Maker. It does ****** off some of the companions, but its worth it.

 

Now I am going to try being super pro Maker... It will be hard.

[Bizantura]

Allways rejected the Herald of Andraste nonsense and have nothing to do with the maker nonsense aswell.  Nice this game lets you do that.

[Taleroth]

anything in-between

What if I believe the true creator is Rekam, the God of anagrams and backwards names? Can I espouse the virtue that Thedas stands for The Dragon Age Setting to Cassandra?

[berrieh]

Yup. My Qunari mage is an atheist. 

 

 

What if I believe the true creator is Rekam, the God of anagrams and backwards names? Can I espouse the virtue that Thedas stands for The Dragon Age Setting to Cassandra?

 

That's not "in between" - that's outside. The person said "anything in between" (meaning you could strongly disbelieve, strongly believe, or anything that fell in between those views). 

 

Atheist - Andrastian would be a spectrum of Atheist, Agnostic, and then levels of Andrastian (like believing in the Maker but not Andraste as a prophet; she was just a Mage, etc). Other religions are't "in between" in that spectrum - they are outside. 

[Ashagar]

Yes but given its revealed at least the elven gods exist, both spirits and demons exist and the fact the old gods tend to rise as archdemons its pretty much amounts to being a flat world atheist in to deny the existence of all gods in this setting.

[Nathair Nimheil]

Yes but given its revealed at least the elven gods exist

It's not though. It is revealed that there are/were Fade-critters that the elves worshipped as gods. Obviously there are powerful spirits in/of the Fade, that doesn't make them gods in this sense of the word.

a flat world atheist

A what now?

[daveliam]

It's another reason why I kind of hate Hawke.  There's no real good options to make him non-religious.  You can avoid some of the religious dialogue, but you can't really outright refute it, like you can with the Warden and Inquisitor.

[Corto81]

Ehm.

 

You can be an atheist. And you can voice your feelings to your few companions.

 

You just can't do anything about it in the grand scheme of things.

 

Even the knowledge where your green hand came from, you can't reveal to the plebs.

The priests give you that "people are too uneducated to understand" thing, and that's it.

 

For everyone (apart from you and like 4 characters), you are, in fact, the religious symbol of Inquisition, and a leader of an organization based and run on religious beliefs.

[berrieh]

Yes but given its revealed at least the elven gods exist, both spirits and demons exist and the fact the old gods tend to rise as archdemons its pretty much amounts to being a flat world atheist in to deny the existence of all gods in this setting.

 

The Elven Gods weren't actually Gods. They were just powerful mages. At least that's what I got from the story. I know some disagree, but with that read, you can certainly remain Atheist. 

[Fardreamer]

I don't think I've ever played an atheist in any dragon age game. It's just seems too simple minded. I mean we know some of the gods exist because we killed one in Origins. Hell, we meet two of them in Inquisition. So it's pretty stupid to play as a character who doesn't believe in whats clearly right in front of them.

Even my evil characters believe in the gods. They just don't worship them or care about them.

I think most of the players who say things like "I play as an atheist and it feels good." Are taking too many parallels to real life religion. We're playing a game in which we know the gods are real.

It's like playing Skyrim saying "Idont believe in the gods. Oh thanks for the mace, MOlag Bal."

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

A what now?

http://tvtropes.org/...latEarthAtheist

 

As has been noted on this thread, an atheist PC who remains so by the end of Dragon Age Inquisition (or even Dragon Age: Awakening, I think) would have to be of the sort described in the second sentence of the third paragraph of the linked page.

[daveliam]

http://tvtropes.org/...latEarthAtheist

 

As has been noted on this thread, an atheist PC who remains so by the end of Dragon Age Inquisition (or even Dragon Age: Awakening, I think) would have to be of the sort described in the second sentence of the third paragraph of the linked page.

 

Right, but......maybe they aren't actually gods.  The assumption in the article is that the beings in question actually are gods.  We don't know that for sure at all.

 

The "old gods" could just be powerful archaic dragons affected by the taint.

The "elven gods" could just be powerful ancient elf mages.

The "Maker" could just be fairy tale made up to explain magic prior to people having a solid understanding of it.

Andraste could have just been a mage.

 

I don't think that there's been anything in the story to point to a confirmed divine god that can't be explained by magic.  Of course, the question could be what makes a god, then, I guess. 

[Travie]

YES! And it feels good.  I never liked the whole Maker/religion, and it kinda bugged me in DA2/Origins.

 

On my first playthrough  I rejected anything about the Maker, and flat out said I did not believe in the Maker. It does ****** off some of the companions, but its worth it.

 

Now I am going to try being super pro Maker... It will be hard.

 

That's what makes role playing games fun though! Give those unwashed heathens what-for!

[Vikarus]

I don't think I've ever played an atheist in any dragon age game. It's just seems too simple minded. I mean we know some of the gods exist because we killed one in Origins. Hell, we meet two of them in Inquisition. So it's pretty stupid to play as a character who doesn't believe in whats clearly right in front of them.

Even my evil characters believe in the gods. They just don't worship them or care about them.

I think most of the players who say things like "I play as an atheist and it feels good." Are taking too many parallels to real life religion. We're playing a game in which we know the gods are real.

It's like playing Skyrim saying "Idont believe in the gods. Oh thanks for the mace, MOlag Bal."

I respectfully disagree. It makes perfect sense to believe in spirits and powerful entities while also believing they are not gods, and can be killed like anything else. The one elven "God" we meet even says he's not a god if you pay close attention to his dialogue. The seat of the Maker is empty, supposedly, and even if he does exist the Maker might not be a god but a powerfuI spirit. I loved the option to say we were atheist, and tell Cory you don't believe in gods in the final fight. It made the scene mean so much more to me to have that belief validated.

[LobselVith8]

Religion never made much sense to me, and Dragon Age is no different. Are there options to reject claims that you are the Herald Of Andraste and anything to do with the Maker? Or do you have to choose these options?

Like Origins, you can play as an atheist. You can reject the Andrastian faith and refute any belief in the Maker or the title of being the Herald - my Lavellan mage continually made it clear he had his own gods.

[Travie]

I don't think I've ever played an atheist in any dragon age game. It's just seems too simple minded. I mean we know some of the gods exist because we killed one in Origins. Hell, we meet two of them in Inquisition. So it's pretty stupid to play as a character who doesn't believe in whats clearly right in front of them.

Even my evil characters believe in the gods. They just don't worship them or care about them.

I think most of the players who say things like "I play as an atheist and it feels good." Are taking too many parallels to real life religion. We're playing a game in which we know the gods are real.

It's like playing Skyrim saying "Idont believe in the gods. Oh thanks for the mace, MOlag Bal."

 

The only real God in Dragon Age is The Maker, and we have no idea if they exist or not yet. 

[Weltall]

I usually like to play indecisive about my role as the Herald. Some companions don't like it, but it seems so conceded to when I tell people that I am the "Chosen One" or "The Maker's Will Made Flesh", so I prefer not to.

[KaiserShep]

It's another reason why I kind of hate Hawke. There's no real good options to make him non-religious. You can avoid some of the religious dialogue, but you can't really outright refute it, like you can with the Warden and Inquisitor.

You can deny the Maker's intervention regarding the Hero of Ferelden to Elthina. The only questionable thing is the use of Maker as an interjection, which doesn't necessarily establish belief in anything. I don't believe in any deities and yet I subject myself to the irony of saying "thank god" when everything's coming up Milhouse.

[daveliam]

You can deny the Maker's intervention regarding the Hero of Ferelden to Elthina. The only questionable thing is the use of Maker as an interjection, which doesn't necessarily establish belief in anything. I don't believe in any deities and yet I subject myself to the irony of saying "thank god" when everything's coming up Milhouse.

 

But can you deny the Maker's existence?  If so, I definitely don't remember it.