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[KaiserShep]

No one ever asks Hawke either.

[daveliam]

No one ever asks Hawke either.

 

Yeah, I didn't think that there was an option.  I would have liked to have been able to outwardly reject religion, but I can't with him.  He's, at 'best', silently non-religious.  But, he's also much more of a predefined character than the others as well, so I guess it comes with the territory.

[panda_express12]

Yeah I think the game also gives you a fedora when you claim to not follow any religion.

[daveliam]

Yeah I think the game also gives you a fedora when you claim to not follow any religion.

 

What does that mean?  Is there a correlation between lack of religion and fedora wearing?  Should I be wearing fedoras?

[KaiserShep]

Yeah I think the game also gives you a fedora when you claim to not follow any religion.

Let's be clear. That thing is not a fedora. It's a trilby, the most diabolical bro lid there is.

[New Kid]

Yeah I think the game also gives you a fedora when you claim to not follow any religion.

What an incredibly narrow-minded statement. Not believing in a higher power doesn't make you some kind of hipster.

[Bayonet Hipshot]

Yep. The option to properly roleplay your character, be it their religiosity or their previous professions, especially using dialogue, is something that Bioware nailed in this game. 

[LobselVith8]

No one ever asks Hawke either.

Hawke can say that his mother is with the Maker in the romance with Merrill (there's no dialogue option to express an opposing ideological point of view to this), and he tells Feynriel (who follows the Creators) that he hopes the Maker guides him. He was written as religiously Andrastian.

[Gaz83]

It's great fun to start out as a true believer and have your faith shattered mid way through the story. The game sets up such a scenario perfectly, too. 

[Dabrikishaw]

Right, but......maybe they aren't actually gods.  The assumption in the article is that the beings in question actually are gods.  We don't know that for sure at all.

 

The "old gods" could just be powerful archaic dragons affected by the taint.

The "elven gods" could just be powerful ancient elf mages.

The "Maker" could just be fairy tale made up to explain magic prior to people having a solid understanding of it.

Andraste could have just been a mage.

 

I don't think that there's been anything in the story to point to a confirmed divine god that can't be explained by magic.  Of course, the question could be what makes a god, then, I guess. 

That's exactly what the linked article said.

[Andraste_Reborn]

Wait, someone owes me a free hat? Does this also apply IRL? Why did nobody tell me?!

 

Anyway, yes, the Inquisitor can be an atheist. My dwarf took the same position I do on the various 'gods' of Thedas - they exist, but they're just powerful spirits, not anything that deserves worshipping.

[Gaz83]

But can you deny the Maker's existence?  If so, I definitely don't remember it.

 

I'm pretty sure you can say "I don't believe in The Maker" to Cassandra. 

[Gaz83]

On edit - Double post, sorry.  

Modifié par Gaz83, 17 décembre 2014 - 07:31 .

[daveliam]

That's exactly what the linked article said.

Right but the linked article was framed as being in a setting with confirmed gods. I'm saying that I haven't seen any confirmed gods in DA that can't be explained away with magic. If the writers CONFIRM that the maker is real, then in-setting atheists would be 'flat-world' atheists. As of now, they are just atheists. And they might be right.

[daveliam]

I'm pretty sure you can say "I don't believe in The Maker" to Cassandra.

Sorry, we were off-topic a bit. That question was about Hawke, not the Inquisitor. S/he can be overtly atheist, unlike Hawke.

[Decepticon Leader Sully]

Not nesseseraly an Athiest could still argue that the "existant " maker is simply a powerfull spirit rather than an all powerfull deity.

[Iakus]

You can refute your reputation as Herald, and the Maker, every time it comes up. You can be an atheist through and through.

Or you can even be religious, but doubt that the Maker had a hand (harhar) in anything that happened to you.

[Drone223]

Okay some one has to do it.



But seriously though, do people really need to make more of these threads?

Modifié par Drone223, 17 décembre 2014 - 08:34 .

[Nathair Nimheil]

What an incredibly narrow-minded statement.

Incredibly, nastily, smugly, perniciously; all good choices there.

[lLord Bhaal]

No. Because there is no such thing as Atheism. Atheism is based on the premise of not believing in a belief system(s). By not believing in something, by definition, you establish the knowledge of its existence. Just not your acceptance of it. So there is no such thing as Atheism, just Denialism.

[Gaz83]

No. Because there is no such thing as Atheism. Atheism is based on the premise of not believing in a belief system(s). By not believing in something, by definition, you establish the knowledge of its existence. Just not your acceptance of it. So there is no such thing as Atheism, just Denialism.

 

God - who is very real, apparently - bless logic. 

 

Even when it doesn't make a lick of sense. 

[FreshRevenge]

It is really unbelievable that people on here can play this game with magic and demons and a thing called the fade and still feel like their religious views in the real world should have any relevance in this one?

 

When you come across the spirit in the fade that you know about. Some have suggested that was the maker helping out the Inquisitor. If I was living in this world I would be incline to believe in something, instead of trying to be stubborn and deny everything.

[daveliam]

It is really unbelievable that people on here can play this game with magic and demons and a thing called the fade and still feel like their religious views in the real world should have any relevance in this one?

 

When you come across the spirit in the fade that you know about. Some have suggested that was the maker helping out the Inquisitor. If I was living in this world I would be incline to believe in something, instead of trying to be stubborn and deny everything.

 

Uh, okay then.  Have fun with that.  I won't try to convince you to not believe either.  So.........?

[tehturian]

I always like to have my characters in Dragon Age games have some kind of religious inclination. Atheism seems like too much like a modern concept to have in a quasi medieval type setting like Dragon Age.

[Nathair Nimheil]

Atheism is based on the premise of not believing in a belief system(s).

School time again I see.

 

Atheism: Literally "without god(s)" The nonbelief or disbelief in deities. That's it.

 

If you do not for whatever reason personally believe in the existence of at least one god you are an atheist. Period.