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How can anybody who has played DAO actually like this game?


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I like the story of DAI, it's almost the same level as DAO - more or less. This writing contains much wisdom and all is deeply connected, also logical most of the time (not perfect, sometimes open to interpretation because not formulated very well, but it's more than acceptable most of the times). All this depends on choices you make in-game and who you are in reality, but at least this game can give sometimes even more "education" about life than most books out there - or remind about wisdom we already know, just easily forget. It's still all imaginary, but reality is also "imaginary" in a sense; depends on our sensors, very subjective always.

 

So DA it's just all about the story? Why not read it in a book then?... because trying out variants (and failing sometimes) makes you think about things that would be easily missed or overlooked otherwise. Also it's fun to immerse in "another life", as in role-play. It's far more. Then the music and graphics, and sometimes the fights all add to the emotional part. More complex and very different than reading a book - which can be fun too, but a game has more chance to reveal more, have a greater impact.

 

That's why I can like this game (DAI, after playing DAO and DA2). If it's about gameplay, as in fights, terrible limited AI, bad controls, tiring UI, looting that doesn't work unless you fight more to get that thing than the battle itself, the poor character look options and armors, the endless features unfinished, the lack of polish - in a word an unfinished game again (too small team or not enough time or trying to include too much and ending with a poor job or just bad management or...) -- then yes, you can't like this game more than DAO.

 

"Pray to the Maker" or just hope that the BioWare writing team won't leave the company... because all that's good in DA it's thanks to them, mostly. The music is good too, the landscape mostly very beautiful (on ultra), the animations are nice (except the speed up "cat walk" turned into running... terrible - keep it for walking only, nobody runs like that) - the rest -- unfinished (or put a very negative word, that's how the rest it is) -- and not tested properly, not optimized, not ready. It's worth finishing it though, since the writing fully deserves it.



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Just close your eyes and pretend it's DAO.

Okay, the actual answer: Even in all its mediocrity, DAI is still better than any of the garbage the gaming industry has been shitting out for the past few years.

I give this game a 7/10. Dragon Age Origins was a 9/10.

The two biggest issues are the lack of emotionally intense moments and the watered-down darkness of the setting.
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quite easily thanks very much.



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Attention "haters" (I don't like using that word): It's okay for you to not like DA:I and it's okay for you to talk about how you don't like it but please stop telling those of us who do like it that our opinions are wrong.


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I've played DA:O twice... and I love DA:I a lot more. 

 

I now officially hate DA:O because these forums how shown me how antiquated it is.


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I actually like DAO, DA2, and DAI.  DA2 is still my favorite because of the companions.   :D


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I like Dragon Age: Inquisition the same way I like Dragon Age: Origins when it was first released because I didn't allow myself to generate any expectations on the game, expecting a game to be like one that was released years ago is what has given us the Assassin's Creed and Call of Duty yearly release cycle because the publishers are taking advantage of people that don't want things changed.  If I have to encounter things I am not crazy about so I don't feel I can play the game with my eyes closed I am willing to shoulder that burden, for if Inquisition was too much like Origins I think I would have enjoyed it less then both games.


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How can anybody who has played DAO actually like this game?

 

By not being you, but rather being my own person with my own opinion that differs from yours.


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They are two different games made at two distinct times. Trends have changed, and the styles of the two aren't going to be the same because of it. So, with that in mind, I just try to enjoy the games for what they are, and just let the fact that I'm entertained keep me content rather than being frustrated that certain things aren't there. This game is what it is, and wishing for it to be something else won't change that. Might as well try to have fun with it, I say.


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There is a difference between DAI and DAO in that DAO was made for PC gamers which is why it is more chellanging and has better tactics and ported over to consoles while DAI was made for consoles despite the false advertising and ported over to PC. So I can see why there is far more fetch quest in DAI to over come its weakness. I also didn't see EA doing as much advertising to DAO while DAI has a lot of advertising.

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There is a difference between DAI and DAO in that DAO was made for PC gamers which is why it is more chellanging and has better tactics and ported over to consoles while DAI was made for consoles despite the false advertising and ported over to PC. So I can see why there is far more fetch quest in DAI to over come its weakness. I also didn't see EA doing as much advertising to DAO while DAI has a lot of advertising.

I am baffled, beyond belief. I play on PC and it is fine. I should add that I have been completely confused by all these PC issues because I haven't had them. I am starting to think people are sore for other reasons, I honestly don't get it. I would rather walk away limping from dragon/difficult fights rather than have a bling healer to spam on hand, so the 8 slots and no healer is a great addition.

 

EA were not the publishers of Origins so that is a moot point.


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i enjoyed them both… different games, sure, but who wants to play the same game all over again?



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I played a lot of DA:O (over 12 playthroughs I think but I stopped counting after a while) and I really love Inquisition. As for the side quests would you believe me if I said that The Emerald Graves is my favorite zone by far? And that is 100% side quest material. People complaining about choices and consequences really just want more slides at the end. Did you know that the fate of mages alone in Inquisitions has 3 different variations? Now in Inquisition you cant have all your choices into slides like in Origins. Reason as to why is because there are so many, the judgments alone are about 10.

 

Now don't get me wrong I did enjoy that slide in Origins about the sword I gave back at Redcliff and how the boy eventually became an adventurer but the main quest variations are not in fact so much better than Inquisition at least not as much as people make it out to be.

 

Nostalgia is bad when you make a criticism chances are Origins were in the first RPG's of that kind you played, you know party based and such it was for me at least and while I do understand that some things were better in Origins and maybe Origins as a game is better than Inquisition that in itself doesn't mean that Inquisition is bad or if I liked Origins then I automatically hate Inquisition.

 

Now the only complaint I have about Inquisition is that the main quest could be longer and I think someone here in the forums said something about tying the Dales regions to wicked eyes and wicked hearts quest as to who you support which i thought was nice. Other than that I believe Inquisition was a really good game and I am currently at my 5th playthough.

 

Also sorry for the long post have fun Inquisitors.


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I don't understand how so many love DAI UNLESS you didn't play DAO, then I understand completely.  If you played DAO and on biowares promises that DAI would be going back to its roots and being like DAO but better, you'd be pissed off they lied.

 

Um, no, can't say that I am. I played DAO nine times, and I've played DAI on PC with a keyboard and mouse, and I loved it.

 

I mean, I think the PC controls could be improved and I wish that hadn't taken my beloved if>then Tactics system away, but on the whole I thought it was a fabulous game and expect to play it a lot.

 

Of course, I also love DA2 and have played that eight times. So there's that.


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Love both games! Played DA:O to death (and actually did another playthrough right before DA: I release). I can pick nits about both games if I was feeling cantankerous but they are both superb! The weirder thing for me is how DA2 has grown on me quite a bit over time. I never outright disliked DA2 but I wasn't as enthralled as I was with DA:O.



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If you play and like all kinds of games and have fun with them it is kind of obvious that most changes will not bother you. If you are used to play action and adventure games then you are probably into real time combat, puzzles, jumping and so on. But it is obvious that what we mean by "played DAO" is liked Origins for being Origins, not just for being a good game. 

 

Anyone can love any kind of game, that much is obvious. So there is nothing forbidden in liking, let's say, My Little Pony and Inquisition and GTA and FIFA, you can, of course. You can also like the next DA game if it does have a colorful pony playing soccer with car thieves but you can't expect people who loved DAI for what it is to love this ficticious new game.

 

It is the same with Origins, people who loved Origins for the combat, the stat system, the different origins, the way your origin affected your story, the interaction and so on will obviously not be pleased by all the changes Inquisition made. But it does not apply when a person just played Origins and did not love the game for the specifics.

 

Let's think love... if you love a blond guy it is ok to love a ginger guy, but it makes no sense when you loved the blond guy for being blond. Specially if you already tried to be with guys of different hair colors and found that you can only love the blond ones. Then one day your boyfriend says he is going to die his hair, he promises you that it is going to be even more blond than it was, a blond hair for blond lovers he says, and you become soooooo happy. Later, at night, when you meet him, he is ginger, no, worse, blood red hair... LOTS of people will love it, he may even be selected as the most handome man in your city, still, even if it is true, you can only love blonds... so, no deal for you.

 

I know, it is ridiculous but perhaps people understand it that way? If hair color is not enough think gender for non-bissexual people. If you completely dislike man and is disgusted by the thought of having sex with a man, how good it is if the most beautiful man in the world loves you? A lot of people will claim you are crazy for not being with him but, whatever, you would rather die than having sex with him. Any average woman is better than the most beautiful man if you hate man. That's it, Origins is a woman, Inquisition is a man. A person who loved Origins (as I said before in this post, for loving its specific mechanics) playing Inquisition is like Sera having sex with the manliest man ever, it is cruel, it is rape.

 

Again I know people will keep on claiing they love both. Yeah, for different reasons, than it is ok, You can like cake and hockey. One is food, the other is a sport. But I would love to understand people who claim that they loved Origins and do love Inquisition and will insist that it was for the specifics. If you loved Origins stat system, for being what it was, how can you simultaneously love not being able to assign stat points? How can you claim to love something you do not miss? As far as I know loving something means missing it when its gone...

 

So you want me to believe you loved Origins for its specifics and still believe you do not miss everything that was gone in DA2 and now in DAI... What kind of love is this that makes you care not for not having that which you love?

 

Again, I accept you saying you love both, as great games, as amazing games, in other words, loved them generically, as games. But I do insist that when we come to discuss fans we are talking about specifics, not the general quality. So again, for people who will try to tell that is possible to love them both in depth, please explain me this stuff of loving without missing... Because as far as I know loving or even liking somethings means to connect with that thing at some level so you tear that connection apart with no pain at all still you claim you loved it? So you all claiming to love Origins just happened to play Inquisition and think "hey, yeah, great, I can't put points in cunning, or anywhere for that matter, oh skills llok like DA2 not DAO, great, oh! action-like combat, good, kung fu lightsaber mages, yeah, fetch quests, amazing, adventure game exploration, that's it, good..." and so on? Do you realize you did not love Origins? You liked it because it was good, not because it was what it was, obviously, if you did, you would miss what you had.

 

Exceptions are:

You loved Origins but you love DAI more, in this case it is ok, in fact you always loved Inquisition but it did not exist so you never loved Origins but it was the closest that was to Inquisition before Inquisition was made. Like thinking you love to drive a porche until you pilot a supersonic jet. The other exception is when you change, my preferences concerning games changed completely around 26yo, it is a possibility, so what was amazing may become boring or just regular.

 

No, I'm not imposing these things, it is just how we USUALLY define love. USUALLY we miss things we love. USUALLY. Perhaps your definition of love/like is very different from mine. Perhaps you do not miss Origins because you still play it and it is enough for you so my whole point of "missing what we love" is a fallacy because for you, you do still have what you love. Perhaps you see it as death, you miss you beloved ones but you know they will not return from the dead but it does not keep you from meeting new, different, people and learning to love different kinds of people. So I'm not saying you can't argue, not at all, I'm just saying that for me, loving is missing what we love.



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I believe that DA:I is better than DA:O in almost every conceivable way.

Plus, many of the OP's points are quite off. It makes me question whether he has actually played the latest game.

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Sometimes I wonder if I just dreamt up how Origins was receiving post release, with fairly above average - but not perfect - scores and user reactions. To see it be elevated to the status of godhood, which don't get me wrong it deserved more than it received, sort of baffles me after the fact. Then again perhaps it's because it's main detractors from that time have moved on. Irregardless, like what you want to like and allow others to do the same. I bought Origins on both Xbox and PC, as well as all it's DLC twice, and I enjoyed DA:I just as much as I did it. Origins did some things better, so did DA2 and Inquisition. They all have their strengths and weaknesses.


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There is a difference between DAI and DAO in that DAO was made for PC gamers which is why it is more chellanging and has better tactics and ported over to consoles while DAI was made for consoles despite the false advertising and ported over to PC. So I can see why there is far more fetch quest in DAI to over come its weakness. I also didn't see EA doing as much advertising to DAO while DAI has a lot of advertising.

 

DA:O got (rather misleading) TV ads as well as the usual marketing push. Doesn't sound any different than DA:I.


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The first game I played was on an Atari STI, games on floppy disks. I have played on every console since and numerous pc's so maybe accepting change comes naturally to me. It is not necessarily a bad thing.


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That's it, Origins is a woman, Inquisition is a man. A person who loved Origins (as I said before in this post, for loving its specific mechanics) playing Inquisition is like Sera having sex with the manliest man ever, it is cruel, it is rape."

 

I feel bad for game devs sometimes with remarks like this lol. Playing a video game voluntarily is not like being raped. At all.

 

I also am finding it increasingly tiresome how people who claim to like "old school" Bioware like Baldur's Gate and KOTOR and Dragon Age:Origins feel the need to go on about how Bioware should go back to the way things were (true RPGs often being used as a term) and only kids nowadays with their explosions and their action games like Inquisition grumble grumble. I've been playing Bioware games since the original Baldur's Gate and I like Inquisition a great deal and feel it holds up very well. There are things in older games I would have liked to see in Inquisition, but Inquisition also improves in some areas over these games- overall I like them all.


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Pretty easily, as it turns out.

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No matter how far this series falls from grace, nothing they can do will ever take Origins away from me -- that mindset helped me stomach Dragon Age II, and it has comforted me while playing Inquisition.

 

I loved Dragon Age II for what it was, but when I needed something with a little more substance I could always go back to Origins -- likewise with Inquisition.

 

I'll probably play through Inquisition multiple times, even though it represents everything I hate about modern-gaming. Still, it does a lot of things right (a lot of things), and I'd be doing myself a disservice if I let my zeal for Origins blind me to the great qualities of Inquisition.



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I feel bad for game devs sometimes with remarks like this lol. Playing a video game voluntarily is not like being raped. At all.

 

I also am finding it increasingly tiresome how people who claim to like "old school" Bioware like Baldur's Gate and KOTOR and Dragon Age:Origins feel the need to go on about how Bioware should go back to the way things were (true RPGs often being used as a term) and only kids nowadays with their explosions and their action games like Inquisition grumble grumble. I've been playing Bioware games since the original Baldur's Gate and I like Inquisition a great deal and feel it holds up very well. There are things in older games I would have liked to see in Inquisition, but Inquisition also improves in some areas over these games- overall I like them all.

Thing is, I distinctly remember being on the forums right after Origins dropped and people were blasting it, saying it was only a pale imitation of those older games. It's kind of baffling to me that now it's being held up with them, even though I think Bioware really hasn't slipped in quality for a long - long time, ignoring the original campaign of Neverwinter Nights which can go burn for all I care. People just don't like change I feel. Not to say their opinions aren't valid, not at all. But to see Origins go from that to highly revered is a bit of a switch for me, seeing as I remember the forums from back then. Then again, the answer is pretty simple, opinions change. That or the people I remember making those remarks moved on and people who felt differently are now a more prominent voice. Probably a mix.


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I'm one of those weirdos that didn't like DA:O nor KOTOR1, but loved DA:2 and KOTOR2.  DA:I feels more in the dislike category because of the story, but in the like category because at least the game play is enjoyable.