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[POTY]

As most are probably aware by now, the filthy unwashed pirates can play our glorious dragon age: inquisition, will bioware consider just removing denuvo? It seems kinda pointless to have something that negatively impacts performance for no reason now.

 

Maybe I'm alone on this, but I certainly would appreciate it as a paying customer if you stopped riddling your games with this kind of thing. Judging from FIFA sales it makes no difference to the bottom line. I'm curious to see what other people here think..

[harlekein]

Making me sign up for Origins was bad enough. This DRM crap is even worse. Literally the only reason I didn't pirate this game was because of the Keep.

 

Why is it always the people who pay full price who are getting shafted? When will they learn?

[POTY]

Making me sign up for Origins was bad enough. This DRM crap is even worse. Literally the only reason I didn't pirate this game was because of the Keep.

 

Why is it always the people who pay full price who are getting shafted? When will they learn?

 

I was a bit worried I'd get nothing but angry fanboys telling me to leave the forums as clearly the only reason I came here was to talk about the elephant in my executable file.

Thanks for proving my assumptions wrong.

[Mad_Ducky]

Who care if they are pirating? 

[POTY]

Who care if they are pirating? 

 

ea and bioware, clearly.

[DaemionMoadrin]

I always buy my games, DRM or not. I do not believe that the number of pirated copies equal lost sales but that's a discussion for another time.

 

I doubt they will remove the DRM though, it seems to be needed to prevent cheating in MP. Or so I was told.

[POTY]

I always buy my games, DRM or not. I do not believe that the number of pirated copies equal lost sales but that's a discussion for another time.

 

I doubt they will remove the DRM though, it seems to be needed to prevent cheating in MP. Or so I was told.

 

 

I doubt it, they could just install an actual anti-cheat program. Also who cares? It's not like the MP is competitive, it's basically just a tacked on time waster designed to sucker kids into spending money.

[DaemionMoadrin]

Yes, compared to the MP of ME3, this one is boring, slow and no fun. It seems designed for micro transactions and not much else.

[Wintermist]

What is Denuvo anyway?

[King Dragonlord]

Denuvo is not technically the actual DRM. Its just there to prevent tampering with the executable. You still need a separate DRM in place. 

[Etragorn]

From a purely technical perspective, its a good piece of work. I'm not sure where they will go from here considering how easy it was for the crackers to break it. It only took what, 4 months?

I doubt the time/money investment was worthwhile for them for it to only last 4 months.

[dekarserverbot]

Actually the only DRM that DAI uses is, sadly, origin... since i already own the original game AND had paid for the deluxe edition the only reason i would crack the game would be playing offline... Don't get me wrong, i always get cracks for games since CD's scratch and tamper with too many use and i just use them to keep playing games when the cd is nothing but a scratch collection that can't be used anymore. However since i own original CD's is not pirating in this case.

[Sartoz]

As most are probably aware by now, the filthy unwashed pirates can play our glorious dragon age: inquisition, will bioware consider just removing denuvo? It seems kinda pointless to have something that negatively impacts performance for no reason now.

 

Maybe I'm alone on this, but I certainly would appreciate it as a paying customer if you stopped riddling your games with this kind of thing. Judging from FIFA sales it makes no difference to the bottom line. I'm curious to see what other people here think..

Hmm...

Denuvo is targeted at the MP crowd. EA wants you to pay real $$ to upgrade the s****y gear they give you. Enter Denuvo to save EA's day by making sure you don't upgrade said s****y gear without paying...

 

The Origins client is the DRM for account verification, game activation, date time  stamp, game ID number validation, data syncing, achievement posting and so on..and for Game Advertising of course...

[Sartoz]

From a purely technical perspective, its a good piece of work. I'm not sure where they will go from here considering how easy it was for the crackers to break it. It only took what, 4 months?

I doubt the time/money investment was worthwhile for them for it to only last 4 months.

If they did "crack it" then I believe you can  only play offline.

[Dubya75]

I dare say that the people who download the cracked version of DAI (or any game for that matter) are purely curious about trying out the game. These people would not have bought the game in the first place, so it really does not hurt the game's sales as much as they have us believe.

Or they delude themselves into believing it. I guess they must, if they keep trying to build titanium vaults around their games.

 

There is a difference between piracy and theft. 

Theft means taking an item that belongs to someone else. A physical object or something measurable.

Piracy on the other hand (and in the present context) is replicating an intangible commodity. And it's apparent "loss" cannot be measured, because nothing is actually lost or stolen.

 

I'm rambling, I know. But just thought to add a different perspective.

[brzoz]

fun fact: 3DM's crack doesn't remove Denuvo, so no one is able to check its impact on game performance

another fun fact: DA:I was cracked before it was patched properly (people still have issues with NVidia cards/DX, PS3/XBOX360 are a mess), i believe if the game worked properly from the start we could speculate on Denuvo's antipirate properties. atm the data, whatever the sales figures are, is not clean enough

 

i don't think anti piracy systems work at all. crackers crack them or cheat them, nothing is forever. if people don't want to pay for something, they won't - they will wait patiently. if those systems affect game itself, that's a problem. i wonder if Denuvo had something to do with hw/system requirements for the game, how many resources, which could be used elsewhere, it required to integrate

[Kantr]

Actually the only DRM that DAI uses is, sadly, origin... since i already own the original game AND had paid for the deluxe edition the only reason i would crack the game would be playing offline... Don't get me wrong, i always get cracks for games since CD's scratch and tamper with too many use and i just use them to keep playing games when the cd is nothing but a scratch collection that can't be used anymore. However since i own original CD's is not pirating in this case.

Put origin into offline mode and disable Origin in-game and there you go. Instant playing the game offline

[Baerdface]

The DRM is there so people wouldn't cheat money in Multiplayer because it was easy to do in Mass Effect 3 multiplayer to get 999999999 credits with cheat engine. The DRM is strictly there so EA would get all that microtransactions money.

[Lintton]

I dunno, the mobile market is a good indicator of what happens when piracy goes unchallenged. It becomes a lot harder for quality games to be made. Take that to large undertakings on the console market and you have a recipe for disaster.

[Chaos17]

Actually the only DRM that DAI uses is, sadly, origin...

Nope http://67.227.255.23...107&postcount=1

 

 

I dunno, the mobile market is a good indicator of what happens when piracy goes unchallenged. It becomes a lot harder for quality games to be made. Take that to large undertakings on the console market and you have a recipe for disaster.

Crapy games have nothing to do with piracy on mobiles phone.

[Little Princess Peach]

ea and bioware, clearly.

then they should remove the pointless downlaod origin and dram stuff, I had to sign up for the bloody internet and pay monthly for that because I could not play me3 with out the internet that annoyed me and they did the same thing with inquisitation, at least give us the option to not play with origin >.>