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Why are all the human player characters nobles?


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In Origins, a human warrior or rogue can only be a noble of house Cousland, while the human mage is from house Amell. Hawke is, again, a member of house Amell. And now in Inquisition, human characters are part of house Trevelyan.

 

It just seems like a waste to me, especially since the description for humans in Inquisition mentions they are the most divided race, which leaves a lot more room for origin and background diversity. I'd personally like to see something like a Chasind background for humans, just to mix things up a bit.



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Not many outside of nobility can afford to actually be warriors?

It's an expensive profession.
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Dunno, but it's getting kinda tiresome. 

 

I'm hoping for an Avvar or something next game. Would actually consider playing one first in that case, as it's something that actually interests me. Never done that before.


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Making your character a noble auto generates the kind of baggage an apprentice keeper, carta thug, or Tal-Vasoth merc wouldn't have to deal with.
This game also marks the second time you've been cast as the extra lordling the family can afford to lose if push came to shove

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#HumanPrivilege


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Because life is unfair.

Actually, it's probably because the "poor, downtrodden" niche is already filled by elves, and the outsiders are usually dwarves, qunari, or Dalish elves. And mages are... mages.

I would love to be an Avvar, though. I'm fascinated by their culture and would love to see more of them in general. If we had the option to be a "barbarian" human, I'd actually bother to play one.
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Not everyone played human nobles before. It's only tiresome if you went that route previously (granted, Hawke forces you into a bit, but I see him/her more as an immigrant). My Warden isn't a noble, so I played one here.



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Nobility just feels right in these games.

 

Though i welcome to have two different human origins. Nobles and commoners. However i will be greatly upset if they ever get rid of the human noble in future games.


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I love the Avvar, but as the game is going north, I highly doubt we would get to play an avvar or Chasinid as they are southern tribes. 

 

I do hope to play a Soporati human if the game is in tevinter.


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Not everyone played human nobles before. It's only tiresome if you went that route previously (granted, Hawke forces you into a bit, but I see him/her more as an immigrant). My Warden isn't a noble, so I played one here.


I think it's more that if you want to play a human, you have to play a noble. Amell may technically be stripped of their title, but they're still of noble blood. Likewise, even though Hawke's a dirty farmboy/girl refugee, their family is noble and they spend most of the game as a respected noble.

Of course, not a problem for me because I like playing non-humans, but I have a hard time playing upper-class characters of any race so I feel the pain.

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I think it's more that if you want to play a human, you have to play a noble. Amell may technically be stripped of their title, but they're still of noble blood. Likewise, even though Hawke's a dirty farmboy/girl refugee, their family is noble and they spend most of the game as a respected noble.

Of course, not a problem for me because I like playing non-humans, but I have a hard time playing upper-class characters of any race so I feel the pain.

 

You're not necessarily upper-class mentally though. That's all in the roleplaying. You could either be like Cass or Josephine in this game.

 

Besides, the human is defined more by their Chantry ties than anything. They have little prospects.. whatever potential they hold is squandered, as a Chantry member.



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Because the usual human commoner is probably more skilled in plowing a field, selling stuff on a market, or being a craftsmen then swinging a sword.



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To make matters worse the noble PCs all might be distantly related to each other simply due to marriages, etc.
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I do hope to play a Soporati human if the game is in tevinter.

 

Would be cool if human warriors/rogues are Soporati and human mages are Atlus.



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Maybe we'll get to experience what it's like to play a slave next time in Tevinter?



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Not many outside of nobility can afford to actually be warriors?

It's an expensive profession.

Pretty much this. Any other means of learning how to fight would tie you to a certain party. 



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I'm still confused as to why there isn't an option for a commoner. As a dwarf in DAO, you had a choice between the two. Although it's hard to compete with the "Howe killed my whole family an everyone under my protection" motivation, they could have had some interesting origin stories

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You're not necessarily upper-class mentally though. That's all in the roleplaying. You could either be like Cass or Josephine in this game.
 
Besides, the human is defined more by their Chantry ties than anything.


Oh, I know! I realize it's all in my head and the game gives you plenty of flexibility to roleplay a laidback, humble sort of human noble.

But I think this is the one area I have self-insert tendencies, 'cause I grew up dirt poor and looked down on and I have difficulty connecting to characters who are part of the dominant social strata/religion and all that. Not saying I can't, I just identify more with casteless dwarves and elves. And refugee Hawke, lol.

Like I said, it's all in my head.

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Human commoners don't have a lot of opportunity to learn adventuring skills, and generally don't get invited to the sort of events that result in world-shattering complications.



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I'm hoping for an Avvar or something next game. Would actually consider playing one first in that case, as it's something that actually interests me. Never done that before.

I agree with this. I would very much love to play an Avvar or Chasind in a future game (I thought they were the same thing originally, but apparently not). It would be such a different and interesting perspective. We've heard lots about the Qun, tons about Andraste, plenty about the Elven gods and the ancient Tevinter gods, but little to nothing about the religion and culture of the Avvar and Chasind.

 

And not all the humans are nobles. Hawke is a dirt-poor peasant who has to work her way up to wealth. She wasn't born to it. 



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I don't have an issue with nobility. They could have made all humans from the back ally's of Denerim... I still wouldn't care. They did try to tie-in the backgrounds of the main characters during gameplay (War Room agents/investigations), but it doesn't really impact the story that much. 

Spoiler

 

My elves are Dalish and sent to the conclave to spy. 



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I think the human noble here helps in other ways it didn't matter in DAO.

 

My character's competence in chantry issues, able to judge and look all pretentious on the throne in Skyhold.. heh. It all works for a noble. I don't have to stretch my imagination to see why he behaves with such confidence. I don't know if Dragon Age has lawyers (Chantry law and regional law alike), but I kind of created backstory like that. The only other one that kind of seems plausible is a Carta member.. but in a more sinister way.


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I think the human noble here helps in other ways it didn't matter in DAO.

 

My character's competence in chantry issues, able to judge and look all pretentious on the throne in Skyhold.. heh. It all works for a noble. I don't have to stretch my imagination to see why he behaves with such confidence. I don't know if Dragon Age has lawyers (Chantry law and regional law alike), but I kind of created backstory like that. The only other one that kind of seems plausible is a Carta member.. but in a more sinister way.

 

Finn from Witch Hunt would suggest yes, Thedas does have lawyers. 



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I'm sure if we do play a chasind or an avvar it'll be either as the chief or the chief's child. So it really wouldn't be too different
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I think a lot of it has to do with their station. A commoner Trevelyan wouldn't have reason to be at the peace talks. Duncan is far more likely to take notice to a wealthy family whose served in the war and has children trained in combat than some random hireling. Hawke nobility makes sense since its reinstated rather than earned.

Truth be told I don't mind it since it handwaves the reasoning for powerful organizations cementing an alliance and more willing to talk and associate with the PC. They would invite the son/daughter of an established family and exchange pleasantries but probably not so if he/she were a mere guard or mercenary, let alone even speak with them.