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[vertigomez]

My character's competence in chantry issues, able to judge and look all pretentious on the throne in Skyhold.. heh. It all works for a noble. I don't have to stretch my imagination to see why he behaves with such confidence. I don't know if Dragon Age has lawyers (Chantry law and regional law alike), but I kind of created backstory like that. The only other one that kind of seems plausible is a Carta member.. but in a more sinister way.

Well, the Carta is the dwarven mafia. I think Cadash looks very... Godfathery on that throne.

And not all the humans are nobles. Hawke is a dirt-poor peasant who has to work her way up to wealth. She wasn't born to it.

Hawke is still of noble blood, though. And they eventually get their title, estate, and wealth back, so I think s/he still counts.

[Rannik]

Begone peasant.

[Andres Hendrix]

I'm not sure, Loghain was not a noble, Sutherland is not a noble, Aveline was more 'middle class' her father was a disgraced chevalier. Though, Hawke was not really a noble for a good chunk of his young life (and it's not like my witty Hawke started to fit in after his name was "elevated"). I suppose when it comes to main player characters the poor farm boy becoming the hero was considered too cliché by Bioware, and instead they decided to go for a more...noble one...lol

[Ceoldoren]

Yeeeah, a commoner would be nice for once. Hawke sort of counts. But he becomes royalty.

[Wolfen09]

because nothing that involves saving the world ever involved a human commoner... really, the idea of it all... go back to working the fields

[caradoc2000]

I'm hoping for an Avvar or something next game.

With goat-throwing as your focus ability.

[veeia]

I'm not sure why realism is a concern. Why is CE such a talented warrior? Why is Mage Elf/Human so talented at magic when the rest aren't? Why is a generic Carta thug the best warrior ever? Answer to all of there is that the PC is an amazing special snowflake, so why not human commoner special snowflake?

[teh DRUMPf!!]

 We love our irony. Nathaniel explained this.

[Obsidian Gryphon]

Because the usual human commoner is probably more skilled in plowing a field, selling stuff on a market, or being a craftsmen then swinging a sword.

 

That's true and any offspring will be groomed to take over in the years ahead. However, if the kid is rebellious, intrepid and most likely the youngest in the brood, then s/he can try to break away. Either by signing themselves on as apprentices to another trade or join a mercenary guild. Joining the latter doesn't mean instant training, I'd expect a certain time spent in the lowest ranks; running errands, cleaning, learning the rules (of guild, comportment, etc) before s/he would actually step out as someone with an adequate grasp of wielding a weapon. That's a  difference in swinging a sword and commanding though. All of it would take a few to several years/decades, depending on how good the kid is.

 

I'm just guessing that's how it would go if the common folks wanted to do something else other than farming.

[Colonelkillabee]

Simple, why would a non mage non templar human be at the conclave unless they were a noble?

[KonguZya]

While I have enjoyed playing human nobles, I support having the option of human commoner as well. The City Elf origin worked really well, so why not have human commoner too? There have been two games with Dalish options, and Chasind or Avvar would actually mesh with Thedas' society better because they're at least human.

[(Disgusted noise.)]

I would say because nobility is unique to humans, so it's something they put up front in order to distinguish them from the other race options. (Obviously, there is dwarf nobility too, but they can't go above ground and retain that nobility. I think. I never played the noble dwarf origin.)

[Red of Rivia]

I wanted a barbarian origin,but...

[KonguZya]

Simple, why would a non mage non templar human be at the conclave unless they were a noble?

You could be any kind of servant that accompanied literally any of the nobles at the conclave. Or a common soldier, or mercenary like the qunari Inquisitor, or a criminal like the dwarf Inquisitor...

[Panda]

No idea. It's quite boring that they keep recycling it. Of cource there was Amell but they used to be nobles as well, their mageness just took that away.

[Colonelkillabee]

I think all of that can be done as a commoner. 

 

Just comes off a little implausible being the Inquisitor specifically.. But I could say that for other choices as well. If a Qunari merc or Dalish can be one, so could a commoner.

That's the main reason I have a hard time seeing the inquisitor as a dalish, dwarf, etc. Even with Solas' romance and lore, the idea of humans following an elf seems ridonculous, lol. And completely forced. It's an arm of the chantry, no matter who denies it.

[Obsidian Gryphon]

All the combat stuff is easy to explain for an commoner. It's the political and social stuff, and just the whole audacity of being an Inquisitor, period.

 

That's true but I'm also guessing the more established mercenary guilds will go further when they promote any one from the lower ranks. As in giving further training if the person is getting kicked up to a rank below captain. If s/he has the potential to go even higher, that means s/he will have to learn all the political and social stuff because the opportunities of associating with the nobles have risen and they wouldn't want to blot their reputation by sending someone who wouldn't know how to speak and behave.

 

I like one of the fantasy novels that detailed how a Paladin, a commoner who eventually rose to that role, was given all these training. She already knew how an army is ran/organized and had been through many battles so they gave her advanced training; commanding, politics, social studies, etc.

[Colonelkillabee]

You could be any kind of servant that accompanied literally any of the nobles at the conclave. Or a common soldier, or mercenary like the qunari Inquisitor, or a criminal like the dwarf Inquisitor...

And you could see them making one of these people the inquisitor?

[jagabond]

DA2 was mandatory Human Commoner origin, if you think about it. I mean, you were "noble" by the end, but you got a good taste of money troubles, grew up on a tiny village, etc.

 

In general I think it comes down to "reasons to be at the Conclave," although I totally agree, if you could be a random Qunari merc hired security, why not some jerk human from the street? While this could apply to a mercenary of any race, I guess Qunari T-V merc and Dalish elf fit the options better for how you could represent yourself. With DA:O it was Choose Your Origin, but here, the Inquisition has a little more momentum behind its backstory, so the representation and its options are different.