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The door bug is now happing near 50% of the time on xbox one......getting to point of not worth playing. It was reported the day the xpac hit. It easy to replicate...so why no hot fix? One would think that a game crashing bug like this would be top of the hot fix list.

 



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xbox one......not worth playing.



That's how I read your post
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If you can't post some relivent.....gtfo     


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There is a long list of other bugs, bugs that should have been immediately present to the dev team before the game even released during testing.  Those have yet to be addressed.

 

Ask yourself a question, do you think they tested this new content?  If you answer yes, then how competent do you believe them to be that they did not catch this bug.  If they were unable to notice this with testing, how long do you think it will take for them to fix it?  If you answer no, do you think they have the time or interest enough to fix this in a timely manner?

 

The mere fact that this has happened, even after the MP released with a SLEW of bugs ranging from big to small, shows exactly what to expect from this MP going forward. 

 

This was their first chance to say "hey guys, we know the MP released a little buggy and we're still working on that.  Heres some free, new content hot off the devkit, this time we made sure there won't be any problems.  Please enjoy it while we continue to work on the remaining bugs that are soon to be ironed out".

 

Not only did they completely ruin their first impression, they ruined their chance to make a better second impression.  Third times a charm, no?


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I still haven't run into this on Xbone since the DLC, and only ever ran into it once the whole time.

 

*Knocks on wood*



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Oh look, another armchair developer. A fix is in the works. When its done i have no doubt it will be announced, just like every other fix thats been announced so far.

I was the one who reported this damn bug and i feel like im the only person who isnt throwing all their toys out of the pram. Its very easy to replicate and therefore very easy to avoid. Kill animals last and 99% of the time, the key will drop.
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Oh look, another armchair developer. A fix is in the works. When its done i have no doubt it will be announced, just like every other fix thats been announced so far.

I was the one who reported this damn bug and i feel like im the only person who isnt throwing all their toys out of the pram. Its very easy to replicate and therefore very easy to avoid. Kill animals last and 99% of the time, the key will drop.

 

There's an additional parameter with the elementalist that you've entirely missed. And keys also aren't dropping regardless of the enemy you kill last, it isn't as consistent as you're making it out to be as keys not dropping was already an issue pre-addon. 

 

They've actually stated that there is no hot fix in the works. See:

 


There is no "next hotfix" at the moment.  I'll ask Allan about whether the existing message still needs to exist, as it seems to be confusing some people.
 
Even if there was, a hot fix is supposed to be a quick stop-gap reaction to a large bug. This has not been a quick reaction, as the bug is still in-game along with the add-on triggering many more bugs that were already semi-common beforehand. 
 
When a game you paid full price for is broken, has been broken for a month solidly, and continues to get more broken, it's very difficult to be anything less than angry. This is the GOTY, and it's the single WORST multi-player I have the displeasure of owning, which is saying something. Even games like RE: Operation Raccoon city, notorious for its bugs and bad gameplay, are better than this. 


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This is the GOTY, and it's the single WORST multi-player I have the displeasure of owning, which is saying something. Even games like RE: Operation Raccoon city, notorious for its bugs and bad gameplay, are better than this.


Whoa, you hold your horses right there. Racoon city was awesome..ish. You know a lot of times a game with get GOTY based on the single player experience, all depends who is claiming it to be the "Game of the year".
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Whoa, you hold your horses right there. Racoon city was awesome..ish. You know a lot of times a game with get GOTY based on the single player experience, all depends who is claiming it to be the "Game of the year".

I'm pretty sure this game got the GOTY only because of the single player mode.



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Whoa, you hold your horses right there. Racoon city was awesome..ish. You know a lot of times a game with get GOTY based on the single player experience, all depends who is claiming it to be the "Game of the year".

 

How dare you. May Bertha haunt your nightmares. *shivers* 

 

To me multi-player is an important component, when the entire experience is broken it leaves a sour taste in my mouth because I tend to spend more time in MP on any game than SP. 


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How dare you. May Bertha haunt your nightmares. *shivers*

To me multi-player is an important component, when the entire experience is broken it leaves a sour taste in my mouth because I tend to spend more time in MP on any game than SP.


Agreed, I usually buy games for MP experiences. I am a huge co-op fan especially these days because I dont have time to get all competitive. Despite all the bugs and such I see some great potential in DAMP and I am sure in time it will reach at least 40% of that potential.
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Agreed, I usually buy games for MP experiences. I am a huge co-op fan especially these days because I dont have time to get all competitive. Despite all the bugs and such I see some great potential in DAMP and I am sure in time it will reach at least 40% of that potential.

 

I see the potential too. That's why it's all the more frustrating! This game could be so much better, there's so many things that add up to make the experience poor atm. I must confess though, after a month I've run out of patience, since they haven't even fixed one bug post-launch, and the work they did on patch 2 has been undone by this latest add-on. 



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There's an additional parameter with the elementalist that you've entirely missed. And keys also aren't dropping regardless of the enemy you kill last, it isn't as consistent as you're making it out to be as keys not dropping was already an issue pre-addon.

They've actually stated that there is no hot fix in the works. See:


Even if there was, a hot fix is supposed to be a quick stop-gap reaction to a large bug. This has not been a quick reaction, as the bug is still in-game along with the add-on triggering many more bugs that were already semi-common beforehand.

When a game you paid full price for is broken, has been broken for a month solidly, and continues to get more broken, it's very difficult to be anything less than angry. This is the GOTY, and it's the single WORST multi-player I have the displeasure of owning, which is saying something. Even games like RE: Operation Raccoon city, notorious for its bugs and bad gameplay, are better than this.


Cant you read? The post states that there is no hotfix AT THE MOMENT. i.e, it isnt finished and ready to launch. I can tell you with 100% certainty that it is in the works, because ive supplied information to bioware myself to assist with the investigation.

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Cant you read? The post states that there is no hotfix AT THE MOMENT. i.e, it isnt finished and ready to launch. I can tell you with 100% certainty that it is in the works, because ive supplied information to bioware myself to assist with the investigation.


Anyone who has posted in any feedback or forum reporting bugs has "supplied information" to bioware, just saying. But thats cool because my dad works for microsoft.
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Cant you read? The post states that there is no hotfix AT THE MOMENT. i.e, it isnt finished and ready to launch. I can tell you with 100% certainty that it is in the works, because ive supplied information to bioware myself to assist with the investigation.

 

Definition of Hot fix: For the developer, a hotfix implies that the change may have been made quickly and outside normal development and testing processeshttp://en.wikipedia....rg/wiki/Hotfix 

 

There is no 'next "hot fix'" at the moment. Not just there is NO hotfix, there is no NEXT hotfix - which is referring to the immediate future, not the present. 

 

Good for you. We've all pointed out its borked; it hasn't been fixed yet and there is no next hot fix. That implies this issue will not be hot fixed, which implies any update will take some time as part of a patch. Considering it took them a month to release patch 2, which didn't even address the majority of the bugs in-game, you have no basis for your assertion that they're working on a hot fix - when both by definition and by their own volition they are not. 



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Anyone who has posted in any feedback or forum reporting bugs has "supplied information" to bioware, just saying. But thats cool because my dad works for microsoft.



What possible reason could i have for lying about this? If there was no acknowledgement then id be moaning and complaining about it too. But there is and as a result, im not throwing a tantrum about it.

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Definition of Hot fix: For the developer, a hotfix implies that the change may have been made quickly and outside normal development and testing processes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hotfix

There is no 'next "hot fix'" at the moment. Not just there is NO hotfix, there is no NEXT hotfix - which is referring to the immediate future, not the present.

Good for you. We've all pointed out its borked; it hasn't been fixed yet and there is no next hot fix. That implies this issue will not be hot fixed, which implies any update will take some time as part of a patch. Considering it took them a month to release patch 2, which didn't even address the majority of the bugs in-game, you have no basis for your assertion that they're working on a hot fix - when both by definition and by their own volition they are not.

You seem to not understand what 'at the moment' means. My basis is the conversation ive had with one of the producers via pm. I dont blame them for not going public about this. Idiots like yourself would extrapolate ridiculous information from anything they say, just like you have done.

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What possible reason could i have for lying about this? If there was no acknowledgement then id be moaning and complaining about it too. But there is and as a result, im not throwing a tantrum about it.


Well implying that you have been the only one "supplying information" seems like the wrong attitude, that is just how it comes off bro cheesy. Don't want to be thought of as being on a high horse or anything because we are all in this mess together. :)

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You seem to not understand what 'at the moment' means.

 

Oh I understand 'at the moment.' But I also understand the implications of the word next - as in immediately following. There is no immediately following hot fix planned, at the moment. That aligns with the fact that its been several days, if they released a fix right now it would barely be considered a 'hot fix' at a stretch. But they clearly have no intention of doing so. It's likely going to be worked into the next patch. Since it took a month from patch 1-2, we should assume it will take around a month for patch 3, which is certainly NOT a hot fix. 



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Cemantics boys and girls, let us now discuss what features we want to see in the future, the past is the past and the present is now, nope you just missed it, just then, okay now. Nope we missed it again, damn.

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Cemantics boys and girls, let us now discuss what features we want to see in the future, the past is the past and the present is now, nope you just missed it, just then, okay now. Nope we missed it again, damn.

 

*Semantics, and apparently pedantic[s]. ;)

 

It is relevant though. This is a thread about an estimate for fixing a bug. I'm sure a feature we'd all want to see in the future - immediate future - is a bug fix. :P 

 

But based on the dev's statement, it seems it won't be so much immediate future as several weeks later, which sucks. 



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Well implying that you have been the only one "supplying information" seems like the wrong attitude, that is just how it comes off bro cheesy. Don't want to be thought of as being on a high horse or anything because we are all in this mess together. :)

I know and i understand that. Im just as frustrated as the next person, there is a sh*tload of issues that need ironing out. but to just come out and say that bioware is ignoring issues is straight up denying reality. I can post a screencap of the final message (blocking out names of course) when ive finished work.

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How do you people find the time and patience to bicker about what you are trying to say and what the other understands is beyond me.

 

The game is kinda broken, yes, complaining about it isn't going to help anyone. You either assists developers with non destructive feedback or you walk away until the game is polished. Anything in the middle is just unhealthy.



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*Semantics, and apparently pedantic[s]. ;)

It is relevant though. This is a thread about an estimate for fixing a bug. I'm sure a feature we'd all want to see in the future - immediate future - is a bug fix. :P

But based on the dev's statement, it seems it won't be so much immediate future as several weeks later, which sucks.


As someone I met on DAMP said to me yesterday, "You best stop using them college words or you'll confuse us all".
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In my two games with ele yesterday on perilous, both times the key doesnt drop on the end of some stage.... So I'm thinking, lets play something else. Then next game I get the door bug out to the desert from the new destruction map - and the next game everyone in my team cant even connect to eachother anymore. 

Four games in a row where we just couldnt finish, or just couldnt even play because of bugs. 

... also I think they should have fixed the Reaver-rampage bug a long time ago. She is great but doesnt seem worth playing at all atm, as most people probably agree.

While I enjoy the game and see tons of potential in it, this is quite dissapointing. I realise that MP is just a small add on to SP and thats what I bought it for which makes me feel a lot less ripped off (none at all luckily), but there seems to have been very little testing done on this add on and DLC especially, which has been a lot of problems for me.

I cant even remember after a lifetime of gaming, a game I have played that has these many frequently reaccuring bugs. I've seen some games that are practicly unplayable but they are usually indie games or atleast small developers, or we are talking like early 90s... This though, is EA and BioWare...

It's a bit sad really...