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[AtreiyaN7]

If I get a date night with my designated LI, I will throw my money at BioWare.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

I don't think they will do a romance DLC specifically. Rather I think that like DLC past the DLC will mostly be about a story but with maybe romantic interaction thrown in. If they were doing full expansion packs I'd expect more, but they said they have no plans for expansion packs but rather DLCs. 

[BiscuitieKai]

They did a romance-ish dlc before, DA:II Mark of the Assassin. the Tallis' Kiss and Farewell plus the Tallis stalking after...just saying

 

I still prefer a Story Driven plus major improvements for existing content DLC and more of Thedas.

Romance Continuity is a must for me, Flirting Divine Cassandra lol :3

[BiscuitieKai]

I don't think they will do a romance DLC specifically. Rather I think that like DLC past the DLC will mostly be about a story but with maybe romantic interaction thrown in. If they were doing full expansion packs I'd expect more, but they said they have no plans for expansion packs but rather DLCs. 

Bioware wont do expansion packs? May you give the link of the announcement? please >.<

[Charcoal15]

A story expansion that expanded on the current romances would be best, with a possible scout Harding scene since it is heavily implied her and the inquisitor become a couple if you go down that path (to the point where it should totally be a dragon age keep tile for inquisition.) No more romances however, you cant please everyone and the writers should not create a major character that is literally just the ****** of Thedas just because some dislike the romance options.

[DetcelferVisionary]

I'm all for romance DLC's and would buy them in reasonable price if I like the character.

 

I also think these straight male gamers need to widen their horizons..

 

I don't even know where to begin with this one. I'll just leave it at 'disappointed' as I usually like your comments.

[RINNZ]

I don't even know where to begin with this one. I'll just leave it at 'disappointed' as I usually like your comments.

Yeah, I normally like what Panda has to say, too.

It's not like I have the right to not like the options given to me or anything.

[Kage]

Wow, I think romances were a major asset of the game. There are A LOT, and they all seem great and very different from each other, which adds replayability.

 

I would not want a romance DLC, would be the only DLC I would not buy. I dont have enough time as it is to experience all the romance options, since its 50 hours min of a playthrough per romance, and there are so many.

[Chardonney]

Wow, I think romances were a major asset of the game. There are A LOT, and they all seem great and very different from each other, which adds replayability.

 

I would not want a romance DLC, would be the only DLC I would not buy. I dont have enough time as it is to experience all the romance options, since its 50 hours min of a playthrough per romance, and there are so many.

 

Well, this thread was originaly about expanding the already existing romances, instead of adding new ones. I wouldn't want new characters, either, and BW has already stated that there isn't going to be any. Yes, there is already lot of romance content in the game but... "I dont have enough time as it is to experience all the romance options" ...doesn't really aply to me and many others. I have absolutely no interest to experience all the current romance options. My favorite one is Dorian and once I play with female inquisitor, te choice will be Cullen. That's it; two options. I dislike all the other options and why would I force myself to play 50-100+ hours many times over again just to see something that doesn't interest me in the slightest.

 

All we are asking/hoping for is some new romance content for our favorite, already existing LI's. That's it. BW has done it before and could do it again if they want to. It's clear that many don't want the same and they have the right to feel that way but hey, one doesn't have to buy such a DLC and it certainly doesn't take anything away from them. If BW would announce that they're making a DLC that I really, really don't like/want, I certainly wouldn't deny it from others just because of that reason. I just wouldn't buy it. It's not like I would lose anything because of it.   

[mrjack]

I think Dorian's funny and charming (and handsome if not for the evil villain mustache and guyliner) but he's not my type at all. I also appreciated his bum but in the end he decided he'd bugger off to Tevinter anyway. Iron Bull is a parody of a meat headed battering ram. I didn't really buy his sensitive moments and FPJ missed the mark VA wise. Also I didn't like being forced in to sub-dom relationship where I "was the one taking it" - his words which he announced to the world. My Inquisitor is a top. Also He went from looking striking in his concept art to looking like he'd been it in the face with a rusty spade full of gravel... hard. Another Kaidan would be nice, or a male version of Cassandra who I can't help flirting with because I love her so much even though my Inquisitor's gay. So yes I want a DLC with an additional romance but it will never happen. Can't blame me for wanting it though.

[Traele]

Feeling the need to address "Straight male gamers need to widen their horizons" comment.

 

Why do they?  Why are their preferences any less valid than anyone elses?  Comments like that play into the concept of Bioware shoving Social Justice NPCs down the throats of the majority of their playerbase.  Not majority of those that frequent the forums.  The only real data Bioware has released that indicates the percentage by gender that play their games comes from Mass Effect, where it is nearly 80 percent male who buy and adopt the game.  Obviously not all of that 80 percent is straight.  Of those that are, plenty like me are more than happy with the Cassandra romance line.  However claiming it is a small portion that is dissatisfied is disingenuous, mainly because none of know for sure.  However, there certainly seems to be the potential that are large percentage of the marketshare isn't fond of the het male options in DA:I.  And they aren't likely to come to forum-land, which by and large for any video game is /not/ a representative sample of its playerbase.

 

I've championed Bioware games to my friends for their inclusiveness, but that ends as soon as people tell me what I should and shouldn't like.  That seems to be the exact opposite of any sort of real progressive thinking.

[Chardonney]

but in the end he decided he'd bugger off to Tevinter anyway.

 

 Well, thank you. Couldn't just put that under a spoiler tag? So now I just have another kind of ME3 romance ending in my hands. Great. Thanks a lot, BioWare.

[Bliss]

 Well, thank you. Couldn't just put that under a spoiler tag? So now I just have another kind of ME3 romance ending in my hands. Great. Thanks a lot, BioWare.

 

It's not guaranteed that he will. It's possible he leaves. It's possible he stays. Of course....my saying that is just more spoiler. Sorry.

[Maverick827]

It's possible that he turns into a giraffe and runs away.
It's possible that he becomes a chef that makes cheese crackers, specifically.
It's possible that he becomes a children's cartoon character named Dorian the Explorian.
It's possible that he makes a copy of himself Weird Science style so he can both stay and leave.
It's possible he never existed at all. Does other characters ever interact with him? Think about it.

There, now no one knows which ones are real spoilers and which ones are made up jokes. It could be anything!

[s-jay2676]

I think a Romance DLC is not necessarily required but I wouldn't say no to one. It could even turn out to be something of value for my character who just can't find common ground with any of the romance options available to her.

[Grieving Natashina]

Feeling the need to address "Straight male gamers need to widen their horizons" comment.

 

Why do they?  Why are their preferences any less valid than anyone elses?  Comments like that play into the concept of Bioware shoving Social Justice NPCs down the throats of the majority of their playerbase.  Not majority of those that frequent the forums.  The only real data Bioware has released that indicates the percentage by gender that play their games comes from Mass Effect, where it is nearly 80 percent male who buy and adopt the game.  Obviously not all of that 80 percent is straight.  Of those that are, plenty like me are more than happy with the Cassandra romance line.  However claiming it is a small portion that is dissatisfied is disingenuous, mainly because none of know for sure.  However, there certainly seems to be the potential that are large percentage of the marketshare isn't fond of the het male options in DA:I.  And they aren't likely to come to forum-land, which by and large for any video game is /not/ a representative sample of its playerbase.

 

I've championed Bioware games to my friends for their inclusiveness, but that ends as soon as people tell me what I should and shouldn't like.  That seems to be the exact opposite of any sort of real progressive thinking.

I think I'll just leave it like this.  This quote is from David Gaider.

 

http://www.nomorelos...-it-by-bioware/

 

The romances in the game are not for “the straight male gamer”. They’re for everyone. We have a lot of fans, many of whom are neither straight nor male, and they deserve no less attention. We have good numbers, after all, on the number of people who actually used similar sorts of content in DAO and thus don’t need to resort to anecdotal evidence to support our idea that their numbers are not insignificant… and that’s ignoring the idea that they don’t have just as much right to play the kind of game they wish as anyone else. The “rights” of anyone with regards to a game are murky at best, but anyone who takes that stance must apply it equally to both the minority as well as the majority. The majority has no inherent “right” to get more options than anyone else.

 

[Maverick827]

I don't think anyone believes they have an inherent right to more content because they are the majority (or they think they are, at least). Instead, I think it stems from the logical deduction that a company should want to appease the majority of their consumers from a profits perspective.

I have little stake in this particular issue, but I disagree with David. Any consumer who is no longer satisfied with a product can and should stop buying said product. If a person believes that the product is not to his or her liking for any reason, even feeling like not enough effort was put into appeasing them, specifically, then there is nothing wrong with giving your feedback and leaving. "I didn't feel like I, as an X, received as much attention as I believe my money deserves" is not an unreasonable position for a consumer to take.

This is also spiriling back around to the denigration of the "straight male gamer" as pejorative. No one calls women entitled when they say that various games don't cater enough to them. I've seen a dozen women say exactly that about the Witcher series this weekend. I would have reported a lot of these posts if I saw this kind of language and phrasings being used for other groups.

[Z.chu]

I could not agree more.

 

As a female Inquisitor I am not romancing ANYONE.

 

Cullen is meh and not attractive (to me), Blackwall I like, but he doesnt fit my character at all, Solas is ok but really opinionated and narrow minded (now thats narrow minded =p) and not attractive, Sera also doesnt fit my character (though she is one of my fav characters), Iron Bull is a cool guy, but very ugly (even for a qunari) and again not my characters type. cant have Dorian, cant have Varric. Yup so im left with no romance options... oh well.

 

My Hawke Romanced Fenris in DA2, which was awesome... nothing comes close to that romance in this game.

 

And i feel even worse for male inquisitors!! your options are abysmal if your straight D;

[Chardonney]

It's not guaranteed that he will. It's possible he leaves. It's possible he stays. Of course....my saying that is just more spoiler. Sorry.

 

Thank you.

[knightnblu]

The trouble with a game romance is that companies rarely get them right. They are sort of like a jackalope in the degree of rarity, come to think of it, and BioWare is no exception. They have introduced interesting romance options, developed them, and then fouled them up in the progression toward the end. In fact, they have driven gamers crazy with their "all over the map" romances in their games. They have taken NPC's that I truly cared about in game and made me hate them because of how they handled it. Granted, this is not entirely the fault of the company, romances are as individualistic as the people who want them and as such, it is dangerous water to navigate. But on the rare occasion that a game company gets it right, they can be a remarkable and memorable experience.

 

Part of the trouble in creating such an experience is the time necessary to lay the ground work. In a game like DAI, you only have 100 hours with which to introduce romance interests, develop a relationship, and bring it to fruition. That isn't a lot of time. Compared to most games, you only have 30 to 40 hours on average. While Inquisition offers more than double that time, it requires effort on the part of the creator to develop the romance. In my opinion, BioWare still hasn't gotten it right despite the additional time and that brings me to my final point. If the fundamentals have been poorly serviced, then how can DLC fix the problem?

 

In short, it cannot. BioWare had 100 hours to run a romance tree in Inquisition and DLC will only offer a tiny fraction of that. You could get a quickie, I suppose. But if they were going to go that route, then why not have a return to the cat house of DA:O? The Mass Effect series was perhaps the best vehicle for developing a romance, but even that was done poorly on most accounts. However, Inquisition had the same amount of time, plus a little extra and the romances are still disappointing (from my perspective). So I just don't see how 3 to 5 hours of DLC can repair that.

[Chardonney]

The trouble with a game romance is that companies rarely get them right. They are sort of like a jackalope in the degree of rarity, come to think of it, and BioWare is no exception. They have introduced interesting romance options, developed them, and then fouled them up in the progression toward the end. In fact, they have driven gamers crazy with their "all over the map" romances in their games. They have taken NPC's that I truly cared about in game and made me hate them because of how they handled it. Granted, this is not entirely the fault of the company, romances are as individualistic as the people who want them and as such, it is dangerous water to navigate. But on the rare occasion that a game company gets it right, they can be a remarkable and memorable experience.

 

Part of the trouble in creating such an experience is the time necessary to lay the ground work. In a game like DAI, you only have 100 hours with which to introduce romance interests, develop a relationship, and bring it to fruition. That isn't a lot of time. Compared to most games, you only have 30 to 40 hours on average. While Inquisition offers more than double that time, it requires effort on the part of the creator to develop the romance. In my opinion, BioWare still hasn't gotten it right despite the additional time and that brings me to my final point. If the fundamentals have been poorly serviced, then how can DLC fix the problem?

 

In short, it cannot. BioWare had 100 hours to run a romance tree in Inquisition and DLC will only offer a tiny fraction of that. You could get a quickie, I suppose. But if they were going to go that route, then why not have a return to the cat house of DA:O? The Mass Effect series was perhaps the best vehicle for developing a romance, but even that was done poorly on most accounts. However, Inquisition had the same amount of time, plus a little extra and the romances are still disappointing (from my perspective). So I just don't see how 3 to 5 hours of DLC can repair that.

 

Well, I for one don't have any problems with the Dorian's romance (so far) and I personally haven't asked anything to be fixed. I also don't mind the fast pacing due to game's lenght; that's understandable. What many of us are talking about here is a DLC to give us more time and special moments with our LI's, that's all. 

[Biodron]

I could not agree more.

 

As a female Inquisitor I am not romancing ANYONE.

 

Cullen is meh and not attractive (to me), Blackwall I like, but he doesnt fit my character at all, Solas is ok but really opinionated and narrow minded (now thats narrow minded =p) and not attractive, Sera also doesnt fit my character (though she is one of my fav characters), Iron Bull is a cool guy, but very ugly (even for a qunari) and again not my characters type. cant have Dorian, cant have Varric. Yup so im left with no romance options... oh well.

 

My Hawke Romanced Fenris in DA2, which was awesome... nothing comes close to that romance in this game.

 

And i feel even worse for male inquisitors!! your options are abysmal if your straight D;

 

This just proves that not matter how many romance options bioware put in a game they are going to be always someone that is not happy with them. 

 

A Romance DLC is a bad idea for that, because every time the players don't like the romances they are going to ask for a dlc romance and if they put that in a game, why not in the other?

[Chardonney]

 

This just proves that not matter how many romance options bioware put in a game they are going to be always someone that is not happy with them. 

 

A Romance DLC is a bad idea for that, because every time the players don't like the romances they are going to ask for a dlc romance and if they put that in a game, why not in the other?

 

 

BW has already stated that they are not going to add any new characters into the game and that isn't the original backbone of this thread anyway. 

[Biodron]

BW has already stated that they are not going to add any new characters into the game and that isn't the original backbone of this thread anyway. 

I know, but make morrigan and leliana romance options is a bad idea for that, because then people are going to ask for other characters that are not romance option to be one.

[WhoopinYourA55Mate]

This again  ?

Oh well let's start again with this topic.

First Leliana and Morrigan...NO!

Second if there is to be anything about "romance add +" and so on then please just fix Harding thing since romance is there but "last scene" it's deleted so just fix that,yes pretty please.

Third make it as patch because I don't plan to pay for "DLC" that fixes Harding when that thing should be in game in first place.

Fourth I don't want want to pay for any DLC just involving romances,cosmetics,dresses and etc. other stuff that is supposed to be in game(make it patch) if there is to by DLC then please do it "Awakening" style,new missions,new regions,new party,new story.Now that DLC I want to pay and see.