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[Asakti]

Is there any impact on from Bull's personal quest if you sacrifice the Chargers?  As in - does his personality change, or is there any impact on relationships (Inquisitor or Dorian)?  I'm curious about doing a run-through with that, but if there is little fall-out from him re-Qun-ifying then it seems pointless to lose the Chargers (Krem mostly).

[sylvanaerie]

Is there any impact on from Bull's personal quest if you sacrifice the Chargers?  As in - does his personality change, or is there any impact on relationships (Inquisitor or Dorian)?  I'm curious about doing a run-through with that, but if there is little fall-out from him re-Qun-ifying then it seems pointless to lose the Chargers (Krem mostly).

 

You could always utube it, but from what I've seen most choices are just 'choices'--window dressing.  He doesn't qun-ify he doesn't go whackadoo and suddenly go swinging an axe at you or Dorian.  The after-convo is different is all.  I think you get a funeral scene for the Chargers.

I've not been able to kill the Chargers, though my daughter has, just to see what he says, and he's pretty chill with either choice.  Yes, the Qun are his people, but the Chargers are his family.  

[robertmarilyn]

You get some extra quests for the Chargers, while they are still around. If they die, I think you get some quests from the Qun instead, but I've never taken that route so I'm not positive. 

[Iakus]

You get some extra quests for the Chargers, while they are still around. If they die, I think you get some quests from the Qun instead, but I've never taken that route so I'm not positive. 

Supposedly, Tallis sends you War Table quests from the Ben Hassrath, rather than Krem giving you ideas on how to deploy the Chargers.

[sch1986]

This was sort of confusing to me as well. It's like he's indifferent to the matter. I know these games are all about choices but this choice I felt was too personal and should have been made by bull himself and not the inquisitor.

Let's face it, the inquisition goes on with or without either side... Why do I have to pick Bulls fate? He should pick for himself.

... Never mind the fact that the inquisition could have shut down the venatori on the beach and saved both the dreadnought and the chargers...

Supposedly bulls card is "happier" if you keep him in the Qun.

[Icinix]

Yeah - not really a difference either way.

 

Go with whatever floats your fancy.

 

Personally I thought he seemed happier with the Chargers around....

 

..I just wish they'd maybe handled the scene a bit better.

 

It had all the feel of ObiWan staring at Anakin yelling "A HA! I have the high ground."

[Lucky Thirteen]

Like most of the characters, nothing is gained or lost by doing their quests. You're just there to watch their dramatic moment and then it's over and everyone moves on like nothing happened.

[Rip504]

The mission was completed. We sank the ship. Which leads to the Qun backing out of the Alliance. Yea that was totally awesome.

His party banter and some conversations do change between the two playthroughs.

Example if the chargers are saved, Solas and Bull play a game of mental chest while in the party together. If the chargers are not saved Solas continues to express his views about how the qunari do not allow for independent thought etc.

Bull either talks about becoming a exiled member of his own race, in which he is never allowed to go home etc, or that he is ready to return home as he has been away for a long time etc.

[Jester]

Apparently if you side with Qunari you get a War Table chain, which results in getting one of the best staff schematics in the game. Unfortunately it bugged out for me and didn't appear. 

Apart from that, you get next conversation with Bull regarding Chargers being dead, of course you can no longer speak with Krem, banter is probably different and you lose all operations relating to Chargers. 

 

This was sort of confusing to me as well. It's like he's indifferent to the matter. I know these games are all about choices but this choice I felt was too personal and should have been made by bull himself and not the inquisitor.

Let's face it, the inquisition goes on with or without either side... Why do I have to pick Bulls fate? He should pick for himself.

It's a military organization. You're his boss. 

He can't make a choice that would compromise your political and military operations. 

[Bekkael]

I saved the Chargers in my only playthrough. If I ever decide to do another run I will let them die. It's weird having FemShep in a Dragon Age game anyway.

[LolaLei]

So if you save the Qunari instead does he return home with them at the end of DAI, rather than staying with the Inquisition?

[CuriousArtemis]

Like most of the characters, nothing is gained or lost by doing their quests. You're just there to watch their dramatic moment and then it's over and everyone moves on like nothing happened.

 

lol So true. Probably why the relationships and overall story felt so lifeless and tedious. *sighs*

[Element Zero]

Yeah, Bull comments on how he has been pretending for too long, and is thankful for the reminder of who he really is. The choice was unfortunate, but I didn't see how saving the Chargers would make much sense in the big picture. They did their job.

Lame animations are lame. The lame animations with the dreadnought were worthy of the NES Nintendo era. What were they thinking putting something so pitiful into this game? Having a meaningfully presented scene would've made the whole thing more impactful. As it was, the horrible presentation was very distracting and disheartening.

[Asakti]

...well, thats a bit disappointing.  A couple of comments and war table missions?  Not really worth losing the Krem over.

 

While I guess it is to be expected - I thought you'd get more.  Especially since you are basically pushing him back to a Qun way of thinking/living. 

[Sugram84]

if there is impact to the game u see it in DA4, u wont see impact of awry mission in DAI, some u see only in DA4 or maybe even in DLC

 

in most of my saves i have let them die, if u ask why, then i say, that what a good leader would do, they knew the risks when the singed in & became Bull's men, & u can bet that meany soldiers even in real life have died cause of that, cause of orders not to retreat, the thing is u have no idea what happens cause of ur decision of saving bull's men, it could be ferry bad, like red liryum finding its way to more people & more people die cause u did not had the guts to do hard choice, who is not willing to make the hard choices if not fit to rule, ruling is not for soft people, & world leaders know that well, even they are face to face with them time to time & the ones who know it best are the dead leaders

 

some call letting them die a bad choice, i will try this with my bad inquisitor, well that line made me laugh a bit, neither of the choices is bad in DAI, but in DA4 saving the men mite have bad  consequences like i mentioned before, also u can bet that in that ship there are more people then Bull's men