The problem with that is my femshep can't tell her to **** off. So we are forced to accept that. So what if she is the reason that Shepard is alive. I don't owe her anything. Remember it just wasn't her, but also Feron that helped, so Liara doesn't get all the credit. She has mental problems. She likes to show off Shepards armor like its some kind of trophy. She took it upon herself not to tell anyone that Shepard's body was given to Cerberus. I would like to hear and see the reactions from the squadmates if they were to find out, especially Shepard's mother, for those who played as a spacer.
Like I said earlier there is a difference between having forced interaction and the character being forced in the story. Liara fits naturally in the story. I don't like Liara for the reasons you actually just brought up. That doesn't mean I think her character's role in the story was forced. She fills the role she was designed for.
I differentiate the role from the person playing the role.
I mean, yes, Mordin's role as the inside source in the STG and the primary drive in curing the genophage is important. But it is a role that can be played just as well by some salarian we have never seen before. This mean's Mordin's personal importance in the storyline is reduced to...being Mordin.
Contrast this with Tali or Legion in the Rannoch arc. Where each of them is a vital component towards achieving peace.
It's also why I say Thane is of limited importance. Since, yes, if the salarian Councilor dies, it can drastically change the VS confrontation. However, Kirahe is potentially available as a backup.
In addition, if Miranda is dead all you lose is...some scenes with Miranda. Oriana makes sure Sanctuary stays on the rails no matter what.
All irrelevant to the point. I laid out my reasoning for this already. It doesn't matter if, in the meta-game, they're not important. They're still important in the story they're involved in. If they're in your game, they're important. They all play important roles in key parts of the main story. In my Shepard's story there is no dobblegangers because they're all alive. That makes them important in my story. Just because they COULD be dead doesn't mean the role they fill when they're alive isn't important.
You're saying that just because Mordin's role from a metagaming perspective can be filled by another then anyone who plays with Mordin can't give credit to him being important to the genophage. That isn't the story my game said. My game didn't say "Mordin cures the genophage, but someone else could had done it."
It says he cured it and someone else might had gotten it wrong. He was important, if he is there. If he isn't there then the replacement plays an important role instead. They're both important roles to play and key components to the overall main story. I refuse to diminish their significance in the story just because they can potentially have stand-ins.
Yes, Tali and Legion are more critical from a meta-gaming perspective but that's it. That doesn't make the other characters less important.
And I've never claimed ME1 characters received favoritism over ME3 characters, beyond the obvious logistical advantages of Liara being alive in everyone's games. In fact, I recognize the exact same thing happening to the ME2 squad as what happened to the ME1 squad in ME2. What I'm surprised is that others didn't see this coming well in advance.
I wasn't referring to you when I mentioned favoritism. I believe it was the OP that made that claim. I was saying that my argument was to counter that claim, I didn't mean to imply that it was you who made it.
Mordin didn't have to be a squadmate in ME2. Just keep him on the ship to do his studying of the collectors
I don't see why Tali and Legion have to be in ME3 to achieve peace. You can have Wreav and Wiks to cure the genophage, so why can't we have Geth VI and Raan/Xen to achieve peace?
Tali and Legion both have history working together. Legion has perspective the geth collective lack. Without Legion's perspective they don't trust organics and are suspicious. Which they likely should be either way, really, since the quarians were bright enough to attack them during a damn reaper invasion.
That being said, I do question Tali's importance in this decision. Legion I understand but Tali probably shouldn't be such an important factor.
Peace on Rannoch is achieved by Shepard yelling at the Quarians to not fire at the Geth, so I guess Tali makes sense due to her voice as an Admiral.
That's one way to look at it I guess, lol.
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