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[Gold Dragon]

And don't forget that the Architect can be killed in Awakening.

[TeraBat]

Though I don't believe The Architect is actually a magister. He's just a darkspawn who somehow gained free will. 

[TeraBat]

And don't forget that the Architect can be kkilled in Awakening.

 

Though the answer to that, while cheesy, is quite simple: the Architect mastered the same sort of body-hopping Corypheus used to stay alive. Or maybe it just happened. 

[Fardreamer]

Though I don't believe The Architect is actually a magister. He's just a darkspawn who somehow gained free will.

Lol, compare a picture of the Architect to Corypheus. They're basically twins.

[Rifneno]

Though I don't believe The Architect is actually a magister. He's just a darkspawn who somehow gained free will.

Extremely tall human with elongated limbs and clawed fingers. Very elaborate clothing has been melded into their skin as if they went through some teleportation gone horribly wrong, huge pauldrons that jut far out on each side. Highly intelligent, incredibly powerful mage.

Yeah, no, dude's definitely a tainted magister.

[Fardreamer]

Here you go:

 

[Gill Kaiser]

Come on, it's patently obvious that The Architect was another of the seven Magisters.

[atamajakki]

Corypheus, the Architect, the three "darkspawn kings" described in the Codex entry by that trapped dwarf, and the two females required for their to be "men and women" among the magisters.

[LadyWench]

What's more interesting to me is that the three darkspawn kings from the codex and Corypheus (although confused at first) seem to know who they are, or at least a rough idea that they were Tevinter magisters whose plan went horribly wrong. The Architect hadn't a clue...

[Han Master]

Either that or The Architect is pretending not to know anything. 

[Palidane]

Where is this Darkspawn King Codex? I must have missed it in my playthrough.

 

And if we've all accepted that the Architect was one of the magisters, that means he can probably body hop like Corypheus can. Into the nearest tainted creature. Like a Grey Warden...

 

Way off to the East, trying to find a cure for the calling, huh? Maybe not.

[BloodyTalon]

Yeah hard to say, it could have been some sort purging from the inside out also to make sure the order is clean of influnce. Or the northern wardens just outright cut ties with the south given what happen with the inquestion and the person that went there is still making there way back, given how far the warden HQ is away from the south.

Everything points either to a dlc or dragon four will take place in the north.

iEdit: About the Artitech Theory do think its likely his influnce was felt and after cory people are looking to see if he his back. But unlike Cory the has been awake this whole time may just more savage for awhile then something brought him back around and he started to look into ways to fix the mistake, different from Cory's methold but doubt wethat plays a major role in way the wardens go silent.

[lyleoffmyspace]

What's more interesting to me is that the three darkspawn kings from the codex and Corypheus (although confused at first) seem to know who they are, or at least a rough idea that they were Tevinter magisters whose plan went horribly wrong. The Architect hadn't a clue...

 

Corpheus was locked up in a slumber for thousands of years. The Architect has been out in the world, his mind may have decayed due to the taint and the loneliness, so he can only remember himself as a Darkspawn now.

[lLord Bhaal]

I'm guessing their playing DA:I and don't have time to post on the forums.

[Rifneno]

Either that or The Architect is pretending not to know anything.

That's what I thought originally. But after talking to some folks who read The Calling novel, I think there's something legitimately wrong with his mind. It's not just that he doesn't remember, but so many basic concepts are just alien to him. He shared his plan to infect the world with the Grey Wardens because he honest-to-Harbinger didn't understand that people wouldn't want to be infected or that anyone would oppose the idea. He had a wormtongue-esque ally that went all wormtongue on him, and he alone was mystified at the incredibly obvious betrayal. There's stuff wrong with his mind. Seriously wrong with it.

Where is this Darkspawn King Codex? I must have missed it in my playthrough.

Sure, here you go.

[Little Princess Peach]

you know whats funny the anderfel wardens play politics all the time and wardens arent eally supposed to get involed in those sort of affairs

[LadyWench]

Corpheus was locked up in a slumber for thousands of years. The Architect has been out in the world, his mind may have decayed due to the taint and the loneliness, so he can only remember himself as a Darkspawn now.

 

That's what I thought originally. But after talking to some folks who read The Calling novel, I think there's something legitimately wrong with his mind. It's not just that he doesn't remember, but so many basic concepts are just alien to him. He shared his plan to infect the world with the Grey Wardens because he honest-to-Harbinger didn't understand that people wouldn't want to be infected or that anyone would oppose the idea. He had a wormtongue-esque ally that went all wormtongue on him, and he alone was mystified at the incredibly obvious betrayal. There's stuff wrong with his mind. Seriously wrong with it.
 

 Great points! And the three darkspawn kings account would have been recorded hundreds of years earlier, much fresher from their ordeal, so that all makes sense. Before, I thought it was exclusionary, but if the Architect's mind really has been twisting and decaying all this time, he could very well BE one of the three. 

 

But yeah, it is my hope that he and others show up! If the Architect, whether the Hero tried to kill him or not, is still bent on using Grey Warden blood to make his darkspawn utopia and Corypheus used them all up down south, then he's a as good a suspect as any turning up in the Anderfels.

[Rifneno]

 Great points! And the three darkspawn kings account would have been recorded hundreds of years earlier, much fresher from their ordeal, so that all makes sense. Before, I thought it was exclusionary, but if the Architect's mind really has been twisting and decaying all this time, he could very well BE one of the three. 

 

But yeah, it is my hope that he and others show up! If the Architect, whether the Hero tried to kill him or not, is still bent on using Grey Warden blood to make his darkspawn utopia and Corypheus used them all up down south, then he's a as good a suspect as any turning up in the Anderfels.

Agreed.  Honestly, it's entirely possible he was the one that was killed and eaten.  It's not like tainted magisters are known for staying dead.

 

The Architect honestly means well, as twisted as his ideas are.  I feel bad about the fact that I must make every attempt to destroy him that I can.  But it must be done.  The darkspawn are a formidable enough ally when they're mindless, berserk monsters.  Intelligence will make them unstoppable.  It is a risk that cannot be taken.  Intelligence is why humans rule the Earth (not Thedas, real life).

[QueenOfTheDales]

Hmm, possible plot, assuming the Architect can body hop? The Architect learns of Corypheus and attempts to free him from the fade where the quizzy banished him. The Architect thinks Corypheus will help him with his plan but nooooooooooopeeee. And meanwhile Solas is doing freaky elven crap and the Grey Wardens are to busy fighting their civil war to notice 2 Darkspawn kings/ original darkspawn magisters to do anything.

[Melca36]

My theory is the First Warden is the same first Warden from the very first blight. He makes himself look different or is secretly a mage.

 

If Avernus Prolonged his life...and Fiona got cured of the Blight.......then something is up.   Also...the name....the First Warden.... really could be the actual first Warden.

[Clockwork_Wings]

Last Flight apparently had

Spoiler

implications that someone was manipulating the wardens with blood magic, apparently for a very long time.  I thought it was Corypheus, until Weishaupt went dark and I realized they had been looking for signs of manipulation for way, way longer than the ten or so years, max, he was Larius or Janeka. 

 

I hope whatever it is, it's a good reason that they turned to blood magic so quickly.  :/

[Girtuoklis]

Instead of trying to contribute in a serious way to the discussion I will attempt to earn me some cheap laughs with a very bad joke:

 

First thing they did in Anderfels was to reform the Wardens to attract more recruits to bolster their ranks again. The first reform was adressing the dreadful Joining-Ritual, which from now on is always performed by Isabella and friends, newest Warden-Members.

 

BA-DUM!

 wardens also started to build needlessly high wall of ice and asking rulers to send murderers/rapists/thieves and such to them.