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[Mr.House]

Orlaisian diet consist of cheese and wine. Also dumb masks.

[IanPolaris]

My Hawke was a mage and Viscountness.

 

I believe DG outright admitted that this was a mistake.

[Mr.House]

I believe DG outright admitted that this was a mistake.

Yet it's carried over into DAI.

[IanPolaris]

Yet it's carried over into DAI.

 

Yeah I know.  It's one of several glitches in the Dragonkeep/DAI history-support that annoy me.  Basically Bioware was unable to decouple a Templar Supporting Hawke (which becomes Viscount) from being a mage.  It's the same reason why a Mage Hawke can openly cast magic as an apostate less than 100 yards from the Knight Commander's HQ and walk away Scott-free.

 

I definately remember DG rather emphatically telling us that a mage Hawke should not have been able to be Viscount.  [Blood magic is another such case but that is a long and contentious topic.]

[fhs33721]

My Hawke was a mage and Viscountness.

Only due to gaining the support of the templars  by anulling the Kirkwall circle followed by the ultimate demise of Meredith (the current defacto Viscountess) after she tried to kill you for literally no reason. Circumstances that are quite unlikely for any other mage to reproduce. So no generally mages can not get noble titles and most definitely can't own land (as long as it is actually known that they are a mage).

[herkles]

Orlaisian diet consist of cheese and wine. Also dumb masks.

I like cheese, it is the mark of a good society. But Orlais still can be crappy inspite of wonderful cheese

[jtav]

An Orlesian mage bought the Blacmarsh mansion. So they can own property and pass it to heirs, but not inherit noble titles.

[Vit246]

Chantry law forbids mages from having those. Only the most exceptional (and I do mean exceptional) mages could possibly get access to those things. You'd have to be favored by the freaking monarch of the country to bypass the rules. Like Wilhelm (war hero) and King Maric. Like Vivienne (mistress of a high-ranking noble patron) and the freaking Empress of Orlais (also the Chantry's center of power).

[Br3admax]

I believe DG outright admitted that this was a mistake.

Champion is also a noble title and Hawke owns the estate in Hightown.  

[Steelcan]

Champion is also a noble title and Hawke owns the estate in Hightown.  

Meredith does admit that she overlooks your being a mage though, its not as if she is unaware

[Br3admax]

Meredith does admit that she overlooks your being a mage though, its not as if she is unaware

The question was if it was allowed. It was allowed. Laws were made to be broken. 

[helpthisguyplease]

So sometimes they can. By the way as a mage if you ask from the king of Ferelden as a boon some land and noble title while you get it?

[Br3admax]

You mean can we become teryn? Pretty sure that decision was completely ignored, but yest Alistair/Anora will grant it to you regardless of background. 

[TK514]

Rhys mentions having the freedom to walk around Val Royeaux, so the White Tower was pretty lax as well.

[Vit246]

Champion is also a noble title and Hawke owns the estate in Hightown.  

 

Thats because Hawke was in a unique position to attack and rout the Qunari and the freaking Arishok himself out of Kirkwall and he managed to succeed and live.

[Master Warder Z_]

It's kind of always been like that

Which is why it took foreign templars to actually deal with it.

The locals failed themselves.

[Br3admax]

Thats because Hawke was in a unique position to attack and rout the Qunari and the freaking Arishok himself out of Kirkwall and he managed to succeed and live.

Meredith had no obligation let Hawke stay outside the Circle, nor did she have to declare them Champion, as she is the only one allowed to do so with Dumar dead. Hawke is not Champion prior to Act III, and is still a known mage with landownership. 

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

Yes. Even if they didn't, they wouldn't be able to do anything with them. Mages in Thedas get three options in life: circle mage, grey warden, or fugitive criminal (apostate). None of those give you much leeway in running an estate, unless you're extremely fortunate and privileged like Vivienne, and even then you still wouldn't have legal standing. 

There is at least one noble apostate in Gaspard's party, I think, and Connor was on a course to be an apostate lord before things went hairy. But I acknowledge that none of this was supposed to legally happen.

[Master Warder Z_]

There is at least one noble apostate in Gaspard's party, I think, and Connor was on a course to be an apostate lord before things went hairy. But I acknowledge that none of this was supposed to legally happen.

She was merely kept from the circle.

Her father was a powerful lord.

[Vit246]

Meredith had no obligation let Hawke stay outside the Circle, nor did she have to declare them Champion, as she is the only one allowed to do so with Dumar dead. Hawke is not Champion prior to Act III, and is still a known mage with landownership. 

Well, didn't Gaider admit how much a Mage Hawke was kinda a walking paradox in DA2?

[fhs33721]

Meredith had no obligation let Hawke stay outside the Circle, nor did she have to declare them Champion, as she is the only one allowed to do so with Dumar dead. Hawke is not Champion prior to Act III, and is still a known mage with landownership. 

No prior to the Act II nobody (friends/party members familiy, and people you helped and have no reason to tell anyone aside) knows of Hawke being a mage. And if you try to refuse Meredits quest about huting down apostates in Act three she outrigt says that Hawke is still only free because she was lentinent with him/her and threthens her/him that she might have to lock her/him up if s/he isn't more cooperative. (At least she does with both siblings dead, otherwise she threatens the sibling instead.)

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

She was merely kept from the circle.

Her father was a powerful lord.

Wait, are you saying what I just said, or that she was a Circle Mage on contract to her family, or that she was a Circle Mage on contract to her family who it was understood was going to stay that way for life?

[Tevinter Soldier]

Ostwick was also regarded as sedate

 

accroding to vivenne, we have a mage from their who found it terrible and the PC can choose either way.