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[iphan4tic]

Hooray the first MP DPC is here.

Slight map variations, a chance for an animal to spawn, and a keg bug.

Even if we ignore the bug, thats a pretty poor effort, isnt it? ME 3 dlc had maps, weapons and classes did it not?

Im just worried if this is what passes as a 'free expansion' then this game has an even bleaker future than I thought.

And another thing: no dev announcements on here? Thats another disheartening foreshadowing.

I hope they are saving all their genuine efforts for ME 4 or something...

[JaceNowater]

Dude stop. You are coming of as an ungrateful ******. Yeah they have some issues to work out but so do most games. Atleast you can play DAMP games like Assassin's Creed, Halo and Destiny were pretty much unplayable for a while. If you are going to complain or speculate leave it to your blog or to your home life. I'm tired of hearing all you whiny twats. Don't like the way a game is don't buy it. Whining or complaining isn't going to fix it.

[parico]

Dude stop. You are coming of as an ungrateful ******. Yeah they have some issues to work out but so do most games. Atleast you can play DAMP games like Assassin's Creed, Halo and Destiny were pretty much unplayable for a while. If you are going to complain or speculate leave it to your blog or to your home life. I'm tired of hearing all you whiny twats. Don't like the way a game is don't buy it. Whining or complaining isn't going to fix it.

 

That's the problem releasing games with issues has become acceptable and gets worse every year.  Soon you will have to wait a year before you can play a game you bought a year ago.   I had no issues with Destiny on Xbox one at all so that one shouldn't be on your list.  But just about everything else I've bought the past 18 months has had numerous issues.  That why I buy less games it's my way of stopping the inevitable disappointment.  Compared to other games this one hasn't been that bad as long as you didn't' buy it on pc or xbox 360 or ps3.   

[Broganisity]

We could be getting more DLC faster, but in smaller snippets.

 

Who knows?

[Cuthlan]

Jesus, Eeyore... they are just getting started. Try not to slit your wrists if the next free DLC doesn't add another 30 maps, k?

[gravemind_z]

It's been less than a month suncle the game released, they said in the recent stream that they just wanted to give us something to chew at before the holidays. I'm 100% positive the next few DLCs will be much meatier.

Only 3 weeks after release? They didn't have to give us jack.

[Storm_Changer]

I don't understand how people can defend this. 

 

There is 3 maps in the game. 3. Rather than adding new maps which are desperately needed, they just added a few variations to the old ones. 

 

None of the maps have any unique point - it may as well be flat land you're running through as you can't interact with it in any way. They're basic maps. 

 

They added a few neutral enemies that have a hive mind, you attack one and they ALL run at you. Ignoring the coding, there was what, 5 enemies added? No more than 10. I'd be more specific, but the game is too buggy to play and confirm. 

 

The base game only has perhaps 30-40 enemies, which are all carbon-copies of each other bar a few exceptions across the factions. In a similar respect, these animals have no unique abilities as far as I'm aware, again they're just basic enemies. 

 

That is the extent of a dlc a month after release, when hype for the game is at its highest point arguably. 

 

I expected alot more, on the basis that there's literally a tiny amount of content in MP to begin with, which is somehow both basic as hell and bugged to all hell. 

 

At the very least I'd expected quicker patching of game-breaking bugs, including the one in the DLC which still isn't fixed. 

 

OP is correct, unless the dev's get their act together this is bleak. Reminds me of what the dev's of Scrolls did - slow, sloppy and poor releases.The player base died. It went from 30k people online a day to 100, but it crashed from 30k - 500 people in around 2 months. 

[Primeyuri]

it aren't variations to the maps but are new maps.

[AussieAuthority]

We could be getting more DLC faster, but in smaller snippets.

 

Who knows?

So you want the broken door, or an animal first?

[Credit2team]

its been only a month since the release of the game. BW was probably under the gun to get something extra released by xmas. 

So no the sky is not falling chicken little

[Angel86]

I don't understand how people can defend this. 

 

There is 3 maps in the game. 3. Rather than adding new maps which are desperately needed, they just added a few variations to the old ones. 

 

None of the maps have any unique point - it may as well be flat land you're running through as you can't interact with it in any way. They're basic maps. 

 

They added a few neutral enemies that have a hive mind, you attack one and they ALL run at you. Ignoring the coding, there was what, 5 enemies added? No more than 10. I'd be more specific, but the game is too buggy to play and confirm. 

 

The base game only has perhaps 30-40 enemies, which are all carbon-copies of each other bar a few exceptions across the factions. In a similar respect, these animals have no unique abilities as far as I'm aware, again they're just basic enemies. 

 

That is the extent of a dlc a month after release, when hype for the game is at its highest point arguably. 

 

I expected alot more, on the basis that there's literally a tiny amount of content in MP to begin with, which is somehow both basic as hell and bugged to all hell. 

 

At the very least I'd expected quicker patching of game-breaking bugs, including the one in the DLC which still isn't fixed. 

 

OP is correct, unless the dev's get their act together this is bleak. Reminds me of what the dev's of Scrolls did - slow, sloppy and poor releases.The player base died. It went from 30k people online a day to 100, but it crashed from 30k - 500 people in around 2 months. 

 

First of all, it's a SP game with a MP "side-game". Developing the MP is/was not their major focus. You can't blame them for having 3 maps, guess how many maps ME3MP had on launch? and we all know how great it ended up being.

 

Like it was said on another thread, think priorities people. BioWare will want to get their SP bugs polished out first before Xmas. After that, I think we can expect the fixes and upgrades to start rolling for the MP, along with the first DLC for the campaign.

[Storm_Changer]

First of all, it's a SP game with a MP "side-game". Developing the MP is/was not their major focus. You can't blame them for having 3 maps, guess how many maps ME3MP had on launch? and we all know how great it ended up being.

 

Like it was said on another thread, think priorities people. BioWare will want to get their SP bugs polished out first before Xmas. After that, I think we can expect the fixes and upgrades to start rolling for the MP, along with the first DLC for the campaign.

 

The project was intended to be MP-oriented originally, not SP. See here

 

3 generic maps in a project designed as MP from the get go? I can absolutely blame them. A butt-tonne of bugs in a basic-as-heck multiplayer? I can absolutely blame them. One of the major selling points of this game was that it's the first in the series with MP. It is absolutely an integral part of the game, and should be treated as such. You do not get to choose which parts of the game qualify as the main game to fit your narrative that all of this is somehow acceptable. Because it isn't. It wouldn't be acceptable if you were correct, it certainly isn't if you are wrong. 

[Dangermatty]

I'm sorry but I have to agree with the OP.  While the single-player aspect of the game is great and certainly has tons of content, the game was advertised as having multiplayer, and that is really what I bought it for.  The MP in this game does have potential, but it is currently a long way from reaching it at the moment.  I hope Bioware does get there - and sooner rather than later - but this trend of expecting full-price games to be broken at launch and gradually become playable is rather alarming.  I imagine it has more to do with the publisher than the developer, but it is nonetheless a growing concern with the industry.

[Angel86]

The project was intended to be MP-oriented originally, not SP. See here

 

3 generic maps in a project designed as MP from the get go? I can absolutely blame them. A butt-tonne of bugs in a basic-as-heck multiplayer? I can absolutely blame them. One of the major selling points of this game was that it's the first in the series with MP. It is absolutely an integral part of the game, and should be treated as such. You do not get to choose which parts of the game qualify as the main game to fit your narrative that all of this is somehow acceptable. Because it isn't. It wouldn't be acceptable if you were correct, it certainly isn't if you are wrong. 

 

I'm not saying it's acceptable, it's definetly not. I just believe the MP right now represents a very tiny % of the whole game, and as such, ranks low on the list of priorities. 

 

Not the optimal order of priorities?, some would say that, myself included, but I don't think that opinion is shared at Bioware at the moment.

[Draining Dragon]

The entire multiplayer was half-assed. You didn't think that would change with the DLCs, did you?

[Chuggernaut]

How old are you kids? I see people complain about a buggy launch, day one patches, etc. In only 27 but I remember when I was a kid games got pushed back years at times due to the things that w can fix on the fly now in days. So youth be happy fixes are in the works and yes they take time.

[PurpGuy1]

I suppose you wanted Day 1 DLC that was already on the disc instead?

[Storm_Changer]

I'm not saying it's acceptable, it's definetly not. I just believe the MP right now represents a very tiny % of the whole game, and as such, ranks low on the list of priorities. 

 

Not the optimal order of priorities?, some would say that, myself included, but I don't think that opinion is shared at Bioware at the moment.

 

I do see what you mean. The reason I bought the game was mainly for MP, incase I didn't like the SP [my first Bioware game.] 

It doesn't seem like they've been doing much work on SP either, correct me if I'm wrong. 

To me it's because the MP is both buggy and lacking in content that it should take priority, as the MP can add many hours onto the game if made correctly. 

I honestly haven't a clue what the dev's actual priorities are, as there's pretty much radio silence on the direction of this game - both SP and MP. 

[Storm_Changer]

How old are you kids? I see people complain about a buggy launch, day one patches, etc. In only 27 but I remember when I was a kid games got pushed back years at times due to the things that w can fix on the fly now in days. So youth be happy fixes are in the works and yes they take time.

 

I'd rather games be pushed back but polished than released quickly and broken - it's a much better impression of the company and a much more enjoyable game if they take the time with their games. But sadly as the industry has grown it's become less viable to delay release. I still don't think thats justification for THIS level of bugginess - considering I've bought many day 1 games and never had these issues to such an extent. And wherever these issues were prevalent, the dev's in pretty much every instance fixed them and maintained a constant line with the consumer, the only exception I can think of is Chivalry. 

[veramis]

Dlc destruction makes vanilla da3mp seem bug-free. If it is an indicator of things to come, i wont be touching any of the dlcs and will be hoping they dont release any mandatory patches. Bioware, leave your da3mp alone it cant handle any more of your bugs.

[Draining Dragon]

Reasonable criticism makes you a hater, apparently.

[Angel86]

Reasonable criticism makes you a hater, apparently.

 

Well no, but people who practice reasonable criticism are the minority.

 

Most criticism posts are whiners and spoiled brats who want everything now, and seem to have absolutely no idea of what kind of work time some things can take.

 

The game is broken on several levels, yes, but people need to report the problems calmly and in a constructive way and be patient.

 

The rest is in Bioware's hands, and they've done good for their playerbase before, so let's show some gratitude and let them fix this game in peace.

[III Poison III]

Dude stop. You are coming of as an ungrateful ******. Yeah they have some issues to work out but so do most games. Atleast you can play DAMP games like Assassin's Creed, Halo and Destiny were pretty much unplayable for a while. If you are going to complain or speculate leave it to your blog or to your home life. I'm tired of hearing all you whiny twats. Don't like the way a game is don't buy it. Whining or complaining isn't going to fix it.

I played destiny and never had any issues so how was it unplayable? Also it's a public forum, he can give his opinion if he likes. Also, the dlc is shite. Simple as. It's made the game unplayable for me with the key bug happening more often that not. Why the massive chip on your shoulder? If you're getting sick of reading people's opinions then GTFO.

[Draining Dragon]

Well no, but people who practice reasonable criticism are the minority.
 
Most criticism posts are whiners and spoiled brats who want everything now, and seem to have absolutely no idea of what kind of work time some things can take.
 
The game is broken on several levels, yes, but people need to report the problems calmly and in a constructive way and be patient.
 
The rest is in Bioware's hands, and they've done good for their playerbase before, so let's show some gratitude and let them fix this game in peace.

And most people giving positive feedback actively deny the issues with the game, which is just as problematic as unconstructive negative feedback.

Let us not forget that.

[Storm_Changer]

Well no, but people who practice reasonable criticism are the minority.

 

Most criticism posts are whiners and spoiled brats who want everything now, and seem to have absolutely no idea of what kind of work time some things can take.

 

The game is broken on several levels, yes, but people need to report the problems calmly and in a constructive way and be patient.

 

The rest is in Bioware's hands, and they've done good for their playerbase before, so let's show some gratitude and let them fix this game in peace.

 

What constructive feedback can be given to a game breaking bug beyond "this sucks, it sucks that you let this in your game, fix it." It isn't a suggestion to be argued about. It is something that has to be done and should've been done in the first place. 

 

I'd say a month is sufficient time to fix atleast ONE major bug from launch. They haven't even done that, nor have they explained why they haven't, nor have they given us any update on the matter. 

 

As far as I'm concerned they're treating us poorly as consumers, I see no reason to give them the benefit of the doubt when they have not earned it. 

 

Because really, how hard is it to make a forum post saying:

 

"hey guys, here's a list of things we're working on, and here's another list of things on our to-do-list when the first list is done. We know about the bugs, expect a patch for that at around [estimated time.] We're sorry for the poor launch, we will keep you posted.' 

 

And they absolutely should do that, considering this is being sold as a full priced FINISHED product, yet it is faulty. It is infact the very least we deserve as a consumer for a faulty product.