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[Diabolus_Musica]

Pfft...yet another thread with elitists aiming to ruin the game for the less experienced. I'm so sick of this I have no words for it.

 

By all means, add two or three or hundred difficulty levels at the top so that you can brag to the end of the universe for having beaten them. I don't care, but leave Normal and Casual alone. Casual is for the people who play for the story, and Normal for the people who don't want to spend a lot of time navigating the intricacies of the game mechanics, or who use tactical mode either not at all or not anywhere but in boss fights. In my experience, they work as intended and shouldn't be changed. 

LOL, nice post.  Yeah, I'm an "elitist", that's what it is.  Oh wait, no, I'm a CASUAL PLAYER that's finding Nightmare difficulty much too easy.  And how exactly am I trying to "ruin the game"?  I didn't say "remove easy difficulty" I said "adjust them so they match their DESCRIPTION".  I have no problem with Easy being easy.  But Hard and Nightmare should not be easy.

[OHB MajorV]

"To put it simply, the difficulty levels should match their description, and right now they don't. "Hard" is not hard, "Nightmare" is not a nightmare."

This is YOUR opinion and luckily yours holds no more weight than mine Tom dick or Harry's. Wanting the game to be harder for your own personal reasons at the expense of others without caring how it affects us is sorta selfish.

[ReadingRambo220]

Turn friendly fire on

[OHB MajorV]

Turn friendly fire on

Yeah the first time solas drops an earthquake on your head you'll be back to playing normal.

[Gaz83]

I like the difficulty levels, and tend to adjust throughout the game. Casual when I'm getting through the long, boring opening, normal at Haven until Skyhold, hard with speciality and decent gear. 

 

Nightmare isn't for me. Fights last too long and it feels like a chore. If it's for you, knock yourself out. 

[Diabolus_Musica]

"To put it simply, the difficulty levels should match their description, and right now they don't. "Hard" is not hard, "Nightmare" is not a nightmare."

This is YOUR opinion and luckily yours holds no more weight than mine Tom dick or Harry's. Wanting the game to be harder for your own personal reasons at the expense of others without caring how it affects us is sorta selfish.

LOL yes of course it's my opinion.  Where do I try to pass it off as fact?  Also I'm not asking for this "at the expense of others".  I said they should keep an easy difficulty.  Nightmare difficulty should be a NIGHTMARE to play, that's the whole reason it's called "Nightmare".

 

Again this is my opinion, but it's coming from a CASUAL GAMER, so that should tell you something.

 

Turn friendly fire on

I have FF on already.

 

Yeah the first time solas drops an earthquake on your head you'll be back to playing normal.

That's YOUR OPINION.  Good thing it doesn't matter to most people.

[russiandobby]

have to agree, right now nightmare is easy, the only hard part is the first boss but after this dragons are the only challange on nightmare 

[Diabolus_Musica]

have to agree, right now nightmare is easy, the only hard part is the first boss but after this dragons are the only challange on nightmare 

Come on dude, don't be so selfish, think of the rest of the players!

 

Seriously though, I'd say dragons aren't even a challenge, they just take a long time to kill.  Assuming you're not using one of those ridiculous million cuts exploits or something.

 

I've played the whole game on Nightmare with friendly fire on, and the ONLY difficult part was:

Spoiler

The end fight in Wicked Eyes and Wicked Hearts.

[OHB MajorV]

You seem bitter, grab a snickers, no one likes you when you're hungry.

[berrieh]

To put it simply, the difficulty levels should match their description, and right now they don't.  "Hard" is not hard, "Nightmare" is not a nightmare.

 

I haven't played Nightmare yet, but I think Hard is Hard. I have to use at least mostly optimum tactics and gear or I die quite a bit and wipe some. That's hard (to me). But just using "match their description" is difficult to say because we might have different ideas of what difficulty should be in this time of game. 

 

Like, in Normal and definitely in Casual, I should be able to bring an all-Rogue party and survive most (all in Casual) encounters. I can't do that in Hard for sure. I can't even do it in Casual or Normal without planning tactics specially for it. 

 

How big a difference is there between Hard and Nightmare? 

 

It's not a big deal to me if Hard or Nightmare are too hard for me, but I do disagree with the idea that Hard is not Hard. It requires a fair degree of optimization, which in this kind of game, seems like what would be considered "Hard." I can't just pick what is fun; I have to think about what is optimal. 

 

Again this is my opinion, but it's coming from a CASUAL GAMER, so that should tell you something.

 

How do you define "Casual Gamer"? Because to me anyone who made it to the BSN is probably not my definition of a "Casual Gamer." 

 

My Mom is a Casual Gamer. She plays Bejeweled on her phone, a few small games on the computer a few minutes at a time, doesn't own a console or true gaming PC (no Steam or Origin account), doesn't read or talk about games, etc. 

 

I'm not criticizing you so much as curious as to what you draw the line as "Casual" as, as this is definitely something that impacts your perspective. 

[Bladenite1481]

Ok, great.  NOW, after you've gotten all the T3 gear and properly prepared you characters, this game should be harder on nightmare difficulty.  Your comments have nothing to do with the point I'm making.

 

So you're saying a level 15 party for example should be able to easily beat a level 15 mob ON NIGHTMARE because I've gotten the best T3 gear so now I'm "not the same level"?  LOL disagree.

 

So Nightmare skill level only applies if I play the game like an unprepared idiot?  As I said before, yes I'm sure I could walk around solo and naked and get killed by the same level monsters on Nightmare difficulty but THAT'S NOT THE POINT.

 

Also "this is a stats based game"...did you just throw that in there for our general information?  How does that have anything to do with this discussion?  I comment on the difficulty level and you provide a description of the game?  Gee, thanks.

Why do you want bloated health pools and high resistances?  That's not challenging, it's tedious. And don't kid yourself, that is all you will get with a harder difficulty. They will not code in better AI and move sets to make it more difficult. 

[Diabolus_Musica]

You seem bitter, grab a snickers, no one likes you when you're hungry.

That's your opinion.  Good thing it doesn't matter to me.

 

How do you define "Casual Gamer"? Because to me anyone who made it to the BSN is probably not my definition of a "Casual Gamer."

What's BSN?

[OHB MajorV]

That's your opinion. Good thing it doesn't matter to me.

Now you're just crying, that's not opinion but fact. Maybe someone will buy you that magic rabbit for Christmas so you can go **** yourself!

Honestly at this point anyone who doesn't agree with you is dismissed because you're convinced you must be right.

[Diabolus_Musica]

Honestly at this point anyone who doesn't agree with you is dismissed because you're convinced you must be right.

LOL, nowhere do I say that.  I was responding to your whining about how I'm trying to "ruin the game for others".  That's a stupid comment, basically.  Yes, my opinion.

 

So by your logic, anyone that posts feedback in a game based on their opinion is just selfish, and not thinking of others.  Listen to yourself.

[OHB MajorV]

LOL, nowhere do I say that. I was responding to your whining about how I'm trying to "ruin the game for others". That's a stupid comment, basically. Yes, my opinion.

You are, because adding more difficulties solves your problem but that's not good enough. You want to overhaul the current levels to fit into your narrow view of what each difficulty tier should be. That's the selfish part. If you can't see that then I'm not sure we have anything else to talk about.

[berrieh]

That's your opinion.  Good thing it doesn't matter to me.

 

What's BSN?

 

The board we're on. Did I use the wrong acronym? I might have. 

[OHB MajorV]

The board we're on. Did I use the wrong acronym? I might have.

No it's Bioware Social Network.

[Diabolus_Musica]

You are, because adding more difficulties solves your problem but that's not good enough. You want to overhaul the current levels to fit into your narrow view of what each difficulty tier should be. That's the selfish part. If you can't see that then I'm not sure we have anything else to talk about.

LOL yeah well not really though since I don't suggest they make Easy any more difficult.  But if you want to throw a hissy fit, by all means, do continue.  Also keep twisting my words for the sake of argument.

 

I'm not apposed to having Easy be easy.  Already said that.

[OHB MajorV]

LOL yeah well not really though since I don't suggest they make Easy any more difficult. But if want to throw a hissy fit, by all means, do continue.

If "not really" "leave easy be" is your best counter I think I've made my point. If you want a harder game then adding more tiers of difficulty like diablo 3 is a reasonable compromise that doesn't change anyone else's experience.

I'm not arguing just to argue and I'm not twisting your words. When companies start hitting things with the nerf bat it never ends well and that's exactly how such a change would go down. Nerf this nerf that. You know it.

[Diabolus_Musica]

If "not really" "leave easy be" is your best counter I think I've made my point. If you want a harder game then adding more tiers of difficulty like diablo 3 is a reasonable compromise that doesn't change anyone else's experience.

I'm not arguing just to argue and I'm not twisting your words. When companies start hitting things with the nerf bat it never ends well and that's exactly how such a change would go down. Nerf this nerf that. You know it.

Where do I say nerf it?  I'm suggesting they make the difficulty levels actually match their description.  Wow I'm a selfish person who's really asking too much...

 

If you want a harder game then adding more tiers of difficulty like diablo 3 is a reasonable compromise that doesn't change anyone else's experience.

I've also said I would be happy with just doing that.  Do you actually ever read any posts?

[Epyon5757]

If you're playing games on nightmare, you're NOTa casual gamer. If you're on this or any other gaming forum, you're NOT a casual gamer.

The difficulty settings are fine for the overwhelming majority (above 95%, I'm guessing). Y'all have to remember that there are a good number of people who quite literally aren't skilled enough to play games at the upper levels, and messing with the difficulty settings to make everything harder could drive them off and limit future sales. Still others don't have the time to invest in doing a difficult playthrough, even if they possess the skill to do so (I play games to unwind and relax at night, not test my skills to the max - outgrew that phase a while ago).

Difficulty is also subjective based on the type of game, too. I find the highest setting in Amalur to be too easy, and typically play DA series on normal or hard, but I have difficulty with Mass Effect on normal.

Gamers in general need to be more accepting of the fact that not everyone has insane skills or desires to play games with the settings turned up so high that they give themselves coronaries just out of frustration.

[OHB MajorV]

You didn't say nerf it but that's how they would up the difficulty.

[Diabolus_Musica]

Y'all have to remember that there are a good number of people who quite literally aren't skilled enough to play games at the upper levels, and messing with the difficulty settings to make everything harder could drive them off and limit future sales.

Now you're getting to the heart of the matter.  I think they intentially made it easier than they should have for these reasons.  Which is fine, but at least have a couple difficult options.

 

Again, I don't need them to adjust the current levels, I'd be happy if they just added more difficult ones on top of what they already have.

[OHB MajorV]

DAI is a Triple A title. So I don't want to hear about fixing bugs (should have done that BEFORE release), or not having the resources to fix bugs AND adjust the difficulty levels. I'm a CUSTOMER, I'm concerned with this game only, not budgets, not deadlines, none of that.

Also when he talks about the game "glitching out bad", no idea what he's talking about, I've got 200+ hours and no "glitching out bad" yet.


To put it simply, the difficulty levels should match their description, and right now they don't. "Hard" is not hard, "Nightmare" is not a nightmare.

The last part was in response to me suggesting more difficulties while leaving the current ones as they are.

[ashwind]

Ok, great.  NOW, after you've gotten all the T3 gear and properly prepared you characters, this game should be harder on nightmare difficulty.  Your comments have nothing to do with the point I'm making.

 

So you're saying a level 15 party for example should be able to easily beat a level 15 mob ON NIGHTMARE because I've gotten the best T3 gear so now I'm "not the same level"?  LOL disagree.

 

So Nightmare skill level only applies if I play the game like an unprepared idiot?  As I said before, yes I'm sure I could walk around solo and naked and get killed by the same level monsters on Nightmare difficulty but THAT'S NOT THE POINT.

 

Also "this is a stats based game"...did you just throw that in there for our general information?  How does that have anything to do with this discussion?  I comment on the difficulty level and you provide a description of the game?  Gee, thanks.

 

You clearly are clueless to what a stat equipment base game is. The challenge is not in the fighting but in figuring out how to deal with the enemies, how to get better equipment and feel rewarding when you get those gears.

 

Being a stat base game, it simply means that difficulty is NOT in the combat challenge, it is about getting there and once you figure out how to get there, you have beaten the game and it will no longer be challenging. It means with the right gear and build, you can have characters that have like near 100% defence value to certain attack. You are already having that near 100% defence, what do you expect the game to throw at you?

 

In a game that takes character skill and not player skill into account. The difficulty reads as such:

 

Casual: You dont need to know even how to equip a sword. You can make it through the game.

 

Normal: You need to know all the basic or you will have a pretty tough time.

 

Hard: You need to know how to "build" and "equip" your character or you will have a tough time.

 

Nightmare: You need know most things and how to build and equip your character. You will also need to know how to "farm" the best equipment or you will have a tough time.

 

 

Hence, anyone who wants a challenge in a stat base game - just dont go get the godly equipment