In order:
Extended Cut (It fixes most of the plot holes and its free. It doesn't fix the stupidity of the endings though)
Leviathan (I think this is the best dlc from the whole trilogy)
Citadel (Great closure with squadmates from the whole trilogy)
From Ashes (Javik is an amazing character you shouldn't miss him)
Omega (Even though I love this dlc, I think it should've been $10 instead of $15. Its not better than Leviathan but more expensive)
Get all DLC that has playable content if you like the game. They're all good.
If you play on PC, you can also get the MEHEM mod or JohnP's MEHEM (Mass Effect Happy Ending).
Who cares what Casey and Mac wrote, these mods are better.
I'd recommend watching MEHEM on youtube before downloading it.
While it has plenty of fans here, there are also plenty of others (like myself) who thought it was worse than even the original endings. I'd take the Extended Cut endings over MEHEM.
Meh. Too happy an ending for Shepard, IMO.
We all knew that Shepard was gonna die. From ME1 we knew that.
ME2 just furthered the cause.
In ME3 he/she finally bit the bullet.
Accept it and move on.
Not everything can have a happy ending like Burn Notice.
And not all fairy tales have a happy ending either. In fact, I would make the case that the majority of them don't have a happy ending. But I have no facts to back that up.
you can skip Leviathan. it has nice graphic design, but not many good fights, instead you just fly around and solve some silly puzzles on the citatel mostly.
it basically only serves as a cameo for Casey Hudson, and some backstory about who created the reapers.
you can skip Leviathan. it has nice graphic design, but not many good fights, instead you just fly around and solve some silly puzzles on the citatel mostly.
it basically only serves as a cameo for Casey Hudson, and some backstory about who created the reapers.
Are you kidding? Did you even play Leviathan?
Are you kidding? Did you even play Leviathan?
i'm not kidding. the only cool thing about is is the art design of the ocean and the ships. the rest is kinda lame.
i'm not kidding. the only cool thing about is is the art design of the ocean and the ships. the rest is kinda lame.
I think that investigating the whole leviathan mystery is awesome. And the fights are also really nice.
And how can meeting a leviathan, the original apex species of the galaxy, be lame? He tells you everything about the A.I. (the Catalyst) and the Reaper's purpose. He literally tells you everything you need to know (well except where it is, but how would he know that.). He also prepares you, the player, for the ending when you'll finally meet the Catalyst and say: ''omg that's the A.I. the leviathan was talking about! It all make sense now!''.
I think that investigating the whole leviathan mystery is awesome. And the fights are also really nice.
He also prepares you, the player, for the ending when you'll finally meet the Catalyst.
anything that reminds me of that stupid kid with his stupid monologue is annoying. I used JohnP's Mehem mod so far, but I'll switch to full MEHEM now, because both the control and the synthesis ending are super-dumb anyway and I don't even need to meet the silly boy ever again (except in a few dreams unfortunately).
"synthetics will always wipe out organics" is an assumption presented as fact, and I hate nothing more than (people) doing this. The whole monologue with the kid is just super-bad writing, and it is highly annoying to even have to listen to this child voice. If I'd have to take a guess, I'd say Mac and Casey pissed off at least 90% of the players with the Starkid monologue and with presenting Synthesis a lá Ray Kurzweil as the ideal ending and making Destroy a bad ending by killing of the Geth and EDI. Thank modders for fixing it for them, and my pity goes to all who play this on consoles and can't mod it.
anything that reminds me of that stupid kid with his stupid monologue is annoying. I used JohnP's Mehem mod so far, but I'll switch to full MEHEM now, because both the control and the synthesis ending are super-dumb anyway and I don't even need to meet the silly boy ever again (except in a few dreams unfortunately).
You do realize that the Catalyst and the kid in the dream aren't the same person, right?
"synthetics will always wipe out organics" is an assumption presented as fact, and I hate nothing more than (people) doing this. The whole monologue with the kid is just super-bad writing, and it is highly annoying to even have to listen to this child voice.
It's not bad writting, it's just how the A.I. thinks! You can't say it's bad writting because you don't agree with the Catalyst's way of thinking.
If I'd have to take a guess, I'd say Mac and Casey pissed off at least 90% of the players with the Starkid monologue and with presenting Synthesis a lá Ray Kurzweil as the ideal ending and making Destroy a bad ending by killing of the Geth and EDI.
You have no idea how many people liked the ending or not. Of course it would seem more people didn't like it because it's mostly them who are going to be frustrated and go talk about it everywhere. What do you think people who liked it are going to do? They're not going say much about it because they know a bunch of people will come screaming to their face that it sucked. Hell, I'd say that since the extended cut more people like the ending.
Synthesis wasn't presented has an ideal ending for everyone and neither was Destroy presented as a bad one. Only the Catalyst thought it was ideal because it would stop the conflict forever, that doesn't mean Shep has to agree. Destroy isn't a bad ending because EDI and the Geth die, their deaths are part of the choice, it's a necessary sacrifice.
Thank modders for fixing it for them, and my pity goes to all who play this on consoles and can't mod it.
My pity goes to you for not being able to understand and appreciate a very simple, logic and good ending.
Ending has a lot of things that require looking deeper into narrative than it was needed through the course of the trilogy. Some elements lack explanation altogether, some require knowledge of lore from the books and comics which not every player has read. Headcanon and post-ending analysis is pretty much required to make sense of it. Still, Leviathan DLC is a very well-made side story with elements that ME3 severely lacks - exploration, mystery and some foreshadowing for the ending and Reaper motives.
a) You do realize that the Catalyst and the kid in the dream aren't the same person, right?
b.) It's not bad writting, it's just how the A.I. thinks! You can't say it's bad writting because you don't agree with the Catalyst's way of thinking.
c) You have no idea how many people liked the ending or not. Of course it would seem more people didn't like it because it's mostly them who are going to be frustrated and go talk about it everywhere. What do you think people who liked it are going to do? They're not going say much about it because they know a bunch of people will come screaming to their face that it sucked. Hell, I'd say that since the extended cut more people like the ending.
d) Synthesis wasn't presented has an ideal ending for everyone and neither was Destroy presented as a bad one. Only the Catalyst thought it was ideal because it would stop the conflict forever, that doesn't mean Shep has to agree. Destroy isn't a bad ending because EDI and the Geth die, their deaths are part of the choice, it's a necessary sacrifice.
e) My pity goes to you for not being able to understand and appreciate a very simple, logic and good ending.
a) please, don't embarrass yourself. They are the same person. They look the same. The AI clearly took the kid persona by reading Shep's mind somehow (at least that's probably the writer's idea). Also, the kid on Earth acted very strangely, and we can only guess why he appears on top of house A first and then on house B. Like a ghost or hallucination. The writer picked the kid as the target for Shep's sorrowful dream because the kid represents innocence obviously.
b.) It is bad writing to abuse the kid for an endless monologue trying to explain things 10 minutes before the end of the game. I'm not even talking about what he says, but the fact that it is there at all. The story didn't really need the synthesis or control ending at all, but I could accept them being there when they had not messed up the destroy ending so badly. The motive of the story was overcoming the impossible by overcoming the differences between (races), and friendship. Now, since the Control & Synthesis solution is clearly retarded, the only logical conclusion to the story is the Destroy Ending - which the writers screwed up by basically telling the players: "screw you, you worked so hard to make peace between the Geth and Quarians, and EDI being Joker's LI, we'll just ruin your day now by rendering all that work meaningless." - That's what bad writers do, they think more character deaths makes for a better story.
c) That's why I wrote "if I had to take a guess". But still, I believe my guess is pretty spot on. The forum is basically full of people hating the ending, even 2 years after the fact, and then there's all the players who got badly disappointed with the endings who didn't even bother writing about it and just tried to forget it and move on.
d) It *was* presented as the ideal ending by the writer. I guess, because the writer is a fan of Ray Kurzweil, Transhumanism, and cyberpunk stories, and I highly disapprove of all this Ray Kurzweil bullshit. Kurzweil’s cult is so bizarre and dangerous that following it can only lead to a lunatrocity of mass death and deception. Kurzweil’s sci-fi cybernetic mind-meld theories are so outlandish that they make Scientology’s galactic narratives sound like Christian Sunday school. Transhumanism is a death cult, much like Heaven’s Gate. Both the heaven's gate guru Applegate and Kurzweil are clearly insane, and it is an abomination to present Transhumanism as the ideal ending of this otherwise great story/game.
e) My pity goes to you as well for dishonestly proclaiming "Anybody who doesn't like the ending is too stupid to understand its genius.".
The Synthesis Ending in a nutshell (presented by Starchild v2.0).
a) please, don't embarrass yourself. They are the same person. They look the same. The AI clearly took the kid persona by reading Shep's mind somehow (at least that's probably the writer's idea).
I know they look the same. I'm not an idiot. I'm just telling you that they're not the same person. The kid died on Earth, Shepard saw him die and it affected him and he had nightmares of him (Which I believe were indoctrination attempts,but where not here to talk about this and also the kid as nothing to do with it). Like you said, the Catalyst clearly took this form by reading Shep's mind (this kind of thing happened 2 or 3 times in series), but not to trick Shep or anything like that. It only took this form because it needed to manifest as something Shep would understand. Also because this kid sort of represented everything that was going on on Earth for Shep.
b.) It is bad writing to abuse the kid for an endless monologue trying to explain things 10 minutes before the end of the game. I'm not even talking about what he says, but the fact that it is there at all. The story didn't really need the synthesis or control ending at all, but I could accept them being there when they had not messed up the destroy ending so badly. The motive of the story was overcoming the impossible by overcoming the differences between (races), and friendship. Now, since the Control & Synthesis solution is clearly retarded, the only logical conclusion to the story is the Destroy Ending - which the writers screwed up by basically telling the players: "screw you, you worked so hard to make peace between the Geth and Quarians, and EDI being Joker's LI, we'll just ruin your day now by rendering all that work meaningless." - That's what bad writers do, they think more character deaths makes for a better story.
Well the story has Synthesis and Control because they were built in Crucible several cycles ago. They're part of the story whether you like it or not. No one is forcing you to agree to using those choices, but they're there and they will always be.
The writers did not screw up Destroy. There are casualites in a war. Necessary sacrifices. I know it sucks that you lose the Geth after you achieved peace between them and the Quarians, but it's part of the choice. Same goes for EDI.
e) My pity goes to you as well for dishonestly proclaiming "Anybody who doesn't like the ending is too stupid to understand its genius.".
Whoa there! Don't put words in my mouth. I never said that.
First of all: I'm not saying everyone should like the ending. You have the right not to like it, but don't go around saying that the endings are ''retarted'', that it's bad writting, that it should all be changed and that parts of the lore should be removed because you didn't like them. The story was written this way, accept it or move on with your life.
Secondly, I'm not saying anyone is stupid for not liking the ending. I'm saying that most people don't like it because they simply didn't undertand it. That doesn't make you stupid.
Anyways, I would recommend you read this: http://forum.bioware...-leviathan-dlc/
I certainly hope you do, as this might help you understand the Catalyst better. I know it's a big wall of text, but it's worth the time.
Anyways, I would recommend you read this: http://forum.bioware...-leviathan-dlc/
I certainly hope you do, as this might help you understand the Catalyst better. I know it's a big wall of text, but it's worth the time.
I read it. It reads like the braindead ramblings of the Heaven's Gate guru. I could debunk all of this nonsense, but right now I rather not waste my time writing so much.
So, I can't recommend reading it at all.
I read it. It reads like the braindead ramblings of the Heaven's Gate guru. I could debunk all of this nonsense, but right now I rather not waste my time writing so much.
So, I can't recommend reading it at all.
Omg seriously? At this point I'm 99% sure you're just a troll. I swear every single post from you I see on here looks like you're trolling.
It's either this or you're just really close minded and unable to accept simple facts.
And I would love to see you ''debunk all of this nonsense''.
Omg seriously? At this point I'm 99% sure you're just a troll. I swear every single post from you I see on here looks like you're trolling.
It's either this or you're just really close minded and unable to accept simple facts.
And I would love to see you ''debunk all of this nonsense''.
instead of calling everybody a troll when you can't comprehend different opinions, maybe take a good look at yourself, maybe you are close minded really.
instead of calling everybody a troll when you can't comprehend different opinions, maybe take a good look at yourself, maybe you are close minded really.
I'm not calling everyone a troll, just you. I understand different opinions, I'm just trying to make you see what you're clearly not seeing or perhaps ignoring. Because really the only thing you've been saying is that the Catalyst is dumb and all but you don't even say why. I'm not close minded at all, I'm very open to other's opinions, but not when they don't take in consideration the facts.
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