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[Mr.House]

Oh for the love...

 

This is no different when Hale voiced romance lines for Miranda and Tali in ME2. I know people are going to think it was planned but I highly doubt it as Bioware has done this in the past. Means nothing in my books.

[Mr.House]

It is weird that they keep recording this dialog in at least 3 games now and then don't use it.  Why do they do that?

In case they want to do it they have the audio for it and don't need to recall the actor in.

[daveliam]

In case they want to do it they have the audio for it and don't need to recall the actor in.

Well that's why I asked if anyone could find the dialogue files for Cass, Dorian, Blackwall, Sera, and Solas. If if what you are saying is true, they should be there as well.

[Andir]

commented on it before but I'm not convinced until either more lines from the male inquisitor, both voice actors, are found or a Dev confirms. it sounds edited, and one or two words of a male inquisitor and the same lines from his romance don't really scream anything. but I am a big skeptic at heart so...: p

[Mr.House]

Well that's why I asked if anyone could find the dialogue files for Cass, Dorian, Blackwall, Sera, and Solas. If if what you are saying is true, they should be there as well.

I would suspect there would be Heck Bioware had Hale record romance lines in Lair of the shadow Broker for Miranda, even thoguh they knew she was not a romance for females.

[daveliam]

I would suspect there would be Heck Bioware had Hale record romance lines in Lair of the shadow Broker for Miranda, even thoguh they knew she was not a romance for females.

Sounds plausible. I'd be totally sold if there was even one of those five files found then.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Hmm, that's interesting. Shame they didn't go through with it.

I may be a woman, so Cullen is already available to me, but with all the requests for a gay/bi KISA, would've been cool if they had gone through with bi Cullen.

 

(Imagine all the whining that would've happened, though. "Cullen was sooo het in DAO!! Why you make him so ghey BioWare?" because apparently if you don't express attraction for both genders all the time you're obv not bisexual)

It wouldn't be as bad as the whining that would've happened if they did this thing to a homosexual character. Some people seem fine with making heterosexual people available for homosexual relationships, but making homosexual people available for heterosexual relationships is a big no no to those people. 

[daveliam]

It wouldn't be as bad as the whining that would've happened if they did this thing to a homosexual character. Some people seem fine with making heterosexual people available for homosexual relationships, but making homosexual people available for heterosexual relationships is a big no no to those people.

I'm assuming that you are referring to the PERCEIVED 'straight' guys Anders and Kaidan? They were never confirmed as straight.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

I'm assuming that you are referring to the PERCEIVED 'straight' guys Anders and Kaidan? They were never confirmed as straight.

No, I'm not referring to them. Though sometimes the argument I'm referring to does occur when people talk about them. But I'm referring to just how the suggestion of making a straight person bi or gay is received as fine by some, but those same some find the suggestion of making a gay person bi or straight as really offensive despite it being the exact same thing. 

[pengwin21]

No, I'm not referring to them. Though sometimes the argument I'm referring to does occur when people talk about them. But I'm referring to just how the suggestion of making a straight person bi or gay is received as fine by some, but those same some find the suggestion of making a gay person bi or straight as really offensive despite it being the exact same thing. 

 

It's not exactly the same when you consider the social status of homosexuals vs. heterosexuals. For the record, I don't believe any character's orientation should be changed, but changing Dorian's orientation would "remove" Bioware's only gay companion romance and one of the few gay characters in video games period. One cannot say the same for straight characters.

[Spirit Keeper]

No, I'm not referring to them. Though sometimes the argument I'm referring to does occur when people talk about them. But I'm referring to just how the suggestion of making a straight person bi or gay is received as fine by some, but those same some find the suggestion of making a gay person bi or straight as really offensive despite it being the exact same thing. 

Technically it's making them all Bisexual. Equal Love for example made Alistair avaliavle for male wardens, it didn't block him off from female ones. While I obviously can't speak for all gay people, I personally have no issue with someone wanting to experience their romance of choice with their PC of choice. It doesn't affect me and i'd rather everyone was happy romancing the characters they like instead of the characters the game limits them to.

 

Dorian and Sera's romances would be kind of odd though since I think it's the first time characters exclusive gay characters have appeared as romances...makes the dialogue kind of...awkward lol.

[Melca36]

Cullen is fine the way he is.   We can't get everything we want from this world and the writers DO NOT owe us anything.

 

They have the right to create the characters the way they want.    

 

There should NOT be Dorian straight mods and there should NOT be mods erasing Cassandra's or Cullen's sexuality and if you think there should be...then you are a hypocrite

[Melca36]

It's not exactly the same when you consider the social status of homosexuals vs. heterosexuals. For the record, I don't believe any character's orientation should be changed, but changing Dorian's orientation would "remove" Bioware's only gay companion romance and one of the few gay characters in video games period. One cannot say the same for straight characters.

 

Its equally offensive to erase the sexualities of characters whether they are gay or straight. 

[daveliam]

No, I'm not referring to them. Though sometimes the argument I'm referring to does occur when people talk about them. But I'm referring to just how the suggestion of making a straight person bi or gay is received as fine by some, but those same some find the suggestion of making a gay person bi or straight as really offensive despite it being the exact same thing.

Then I agree with you. If Cullen had been confirmed as straight (not just implied) then I would not support him being bisexual in a later game.

That being said, as someone who feels that her sexuality is underrepresented, I'm sure that you can understand the difference in representation between orientations. Having Merrill confirmed as bisexual had a greater impact on you because there is less representation for you. Same idea but on a different scale.

[Spirit Keeper]

Cullen is fine the way he is.   We can't get everything we want from this world and the writers DO NOT owe us anything.

 

They have the right to create the characters the way they want.    

 

There should NOT be Dorian straight mods and there should NOT be mods erasing Cassandra's or Cullen's sexuality and if you think there should be...then you are a hypocrite

hypocrite. (1) A person who engages in the same behaviors he condemns others for.

                 (2) A person who professes certain ideals, but fails to live up to them.

 

Not sure which person in this thread has been a hypocrite.

[Melca36]

hypocrite. (1) A person who engages in the same behaviors he condemns others for.

                 (2) A person who professes certain ideals, but fails to live up to them.

 

Not sure which person in this thread has been a hypocrite.

Im talking about the people who condemn mods one way and accept it the other way.

 

There SHOULD NOT be Dorian straight mods. There should NOT be Cassandra or Cullen Bi mods.    If  a person is against Dorian straight mods but consider it okay to make Cullen or Cassandra Bi....that person is a hypocrite.

 

A character's sexuality should NOT be changed no matter if they're gay or straight.   

[pengwin21]

Im talking about the people who condemn mods one way and accept it the other way.

 

There SHOULD NOT be Dorian straight mods. There should NOT be Cassandra or Cullen Bi mods.    If  a person is against Dorian straight mods but consider it okay to make Cullen or Cassandra Bi....that person is a hypocrite.

 

A character's sexuality should NOT be changed no matter if they're gay or straight.   

 

I'm not a big fan of character change mods either way, but some I'm going to view more skeptically than others for social reasons. For example take the 'white Isabela' mod as mod #1 and a mod that gives Alistair dark hair as mod #2. I think that mod #1 is more...egregious because skin color has had more social ramifications than hair color.

[Etragorn]

Starting in DA:O I believed Cullen was a total tool. The only decent thing he ever did was at the tail end of DA:2.

I always thought he was a turd, and I think he bleaches his hair. How they ever decided to make him into a major character in DA:I, I'll never know.

Despite the fact that he finally becomes a decent human being in DA:I, my male inquisitor wouldn't touch him with a 10 foot pole even if he was Bi. Plus, his style is awful, even Dorian thinks those feathery things he wears on his shoulders are gay.

[Spirit Keeper]

Im talking about the people who condemn mods one way and accept it the other way.

 

There SHOULD NOT be Dorian straight mods. There should NOT be Cassandra or Cullen Bi mods.    If  a person is against Dorian straight mods but consider it okay to make Cullen or Cassandra Bi....that person is a hypocrite.

 

A character's sexuality should NOT be changed no matter if they're gay or straight.   

The only I have to point out though, is that this is existing romance dialogue for M!quisitor and Cullen. It wouldn't be that different to when it turned out Kaidan was bisexual would it?

 

Hell, Bioware went so far as to record unique lines between a romanced M!Shep and Kaidan in ME2 when the romance is imported from ME1 and the same for M!Shep and Kaidan on Mars in ME3. So Bioware seems to be okay with supporting such romances when they are found, and well, Cullen's has been found.

[Ryzaki]

I don't understand people who care about people using gay/straight mods.

 

It's not like they're gonna drown the modding community til that's pretty much all you're ever going to see. And they're easily avoidable. So *shrug*

[Biotic_Warlock]

I'd like this.
I didn't get along great with Cullen before, but he's adorable.
Gay male characters have been shafted for romance options so often.

Whilst not wanting everyone bi for the sake of realism... I'm pretty sure having only two options last two games (and then one in origins) is quite small, compared with everyone else.

[Melca36]

The only I have to point out though, is that this is existing romance dialogue for M!quisitor and Cullen. It wouldn't be that different to when it turned out Kaidan was bisexual would it?

 

Hell, Bioware went so far as to record unique lines between a romanced M!Shep and Kaidan in ME2 when the romance is imported from ME1 and the same for M!Shep and Kaidan on Mars in ME3. So Bioware seems to be okay with supporting such romances when they are found, and well, Cullen's has been found.

Its the SAME dialogue as the female Inquisitor. There is NOTHING different about it

[Arakat]

Danaduchy is the person known for digging up ALL the audio files, so I think this is genuine. However, in her Tumblr, she says the Dorian romance has only male Inquisitor vo and Sera and Blackwall only have female Inquisitor vo, so apparently they didn't record all the lines with everyone just in case.

[Spirit Keeper]

Its the SAME dialogue as the female Inquisitor. There is NOTHING different about it

And?