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Restore Bisexual Cullen.


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#851
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I don't want Cullen to change, but I'm just saying no one likes Blackwall.

 

Wait, does that mean I don't exist?!

 

*vanishes in a puff of logic*


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They wouldn't though...not without thinking over it carefully...and I have followed and chatted with that former employee enough to trust her. I mean she could be wrong and not have the right info. Like I said, its impossible to know. But I wouldn't dismiss it either in favor of a theory "just in case", which is directly contradicted by those comments by Lukas.

Ultimately, it doesn't matter why it was cut anyway, because it was cut. Like, I am mostly surprised here that they left the files in. I wonder if they forgot, or they couldn't get rid of them easily, or? Because I assume that if they'd remembered, they would know how this reaction would play out. :lol:

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[CLEARS THROAT OBVIOUSLY]

 

[COUGHCOUGH] asexual or demisexual option [COUGHCOUGH]

(COUGH) asexual or demisexual qunari (COUGH) 


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#854
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Wait, does that mean I don't exist?!

 

*vanishes in a puff of logic*

Please dont vanish lol

Actually Blackwall is the more improved version of Choir-Boy (based on Varric-Blackwall Banter)

We should ask Bioware for an Official statement regarding Cullen's preference, that will end this war...i dont have any cookies and coffees left because of this thread next time ill buy more if ever...



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Why all the fighting? Gay/Bi dudes and straight women are usually allies :P



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Why all the fighting? Gay/Bi dudes and straight women are usually allies :P

because for some straight women its horrifying to even think that " their man" can be bisexual:)



#857
BiscuitieKai

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Why all the fighting? Gay/Bi dudes and straight women are usually allies :P

its more like our very own mage and templar war

Edit: the naughty mage and the Bad Templar



#858
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Kaidan and Anders..

 

The thing is that I don't think Cullen is being changed to bi but that he is bi since he's m/m content seems to be cut off because devs didn't have time to animate it.

 

Except that Cullen has been stated to be straight by the developers over and over again. So, I don't really understand the comments acting as if his sexuality is up for interpretation or claiming that he is Bi due to these recent "revelations". He is only available to straight female characters to romance in-game, it's as simple as that. Plus, he shuts down male Inquisitors who try to flirt with him... Regardless of the reasons behind cutting the content, the final decision was made to release the product presenting him as a heterosexual male, not bi. That makes it canon. Not cut content that no-one would have found if they hadn't been digging through files never meant to be seen. I realize it's disappointing for some people not able to romance their character of choice but...can we please not twist the truth here people?

 

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I like how bothering the writer and making him justify his decisions somehow makes you think that it will make him change his mind. He just now thinks that you're being annoying whiners.

 

Good job, this "respectful request" is truly working.



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It would change his personality. He would be a different person, and women who want to romance Cullen may not be attracted to a bisexual man.
 

 

First let's clear something up.By your argument I can see that you mean something like "Wow women would never be attracted to guy who has f~cked and has thing for dudes." let's first start with shallow "thing" that you think it may affect women and that is...Cullen is virgin so he never f~cked dudes or anyone!

Now that "shallow" thing is out of the way I as female myself can assure you that someone's sexuality doesn't bother us at all as long as they like us! So someone's taste,history and ~yada yada~ doesn't interest us as long as that person wants to be with us as well!As long as that person does care for us,like us and is wanting us as us...then we don't give a single damn if they are bi or pansexual!

Now third thing!About 90% female players make male characters in DA/ME only to romance other dude lol So bi Cullen wouldn't affect female players in bad way,very opposite it would give girls one more reason to play guy simply because of it ;)

In all three cases your argument is more then invalid,it doesn't make no sense as first and as second I have yet to see a girl that complains about bi Cullen in fact do homework in this area a little and see that females are one in first place asking for bi Cullen.



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First let's clear something up.By your argument I can see that you mean something like "Wow women would never be attracted to guy who has f~cked and has thing for dudes." let's first start with shallow "thing" that you think it may affect women and that is...Cullen is virgin so he never f~cked dudes or anyone!

Now that "shallow" thing is out of the way I as female myself can assure you that someone's sexuality doesn't bother us at all as long as they like us! So someone's taste,history and ~yada yada~ doesn't interest us as long as that person wants to be with us as well!As long as that person does care for us,like us and is wanting us as us...then we don't give a single damn if they are bi or pansexual!

Now third thing!About 90% female players make male characters in DA/ME only to romance other dude lol So bi Cullen wouldn't affect female players in bad way,very opposite it would give girls one more reason to play guy simply because of it ;)

In all three cases your argument is more then invalid,it doesn't make no sense as first and as second I have yet to see a girl that complains about bi Cullen in fact do homework in this area a little and see that females are one in first place asking for bi Cullen.

 

I don't get this pack mentality and using "we" when making arguments. Do you truly feel like you represent all women? Where did you get your statistics from?


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Ok we have confimation Cullen is traight by dev now you accept his sexualtity and respect the work of Bioware Thanks if you prefer is bi so wait the mods

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Ok we have confimation Cullen is traight by dev now you accept his sexualtity and respect the work of Bioware Thanks if you prefer is bi so wait the mods

 

That will never happen with people who honestly feel like they're entitled to something and are the victims in the situation. There will be no end to this, you can be sure of that.

 

And wait for Kotaku and Polygon to make an article about it, lol. Bioware is in big trouble.



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I don't get this pack mentality and using "we" when making arguments. Do you truly feel like you represent all women? Where did you get your statistics from?

 

I never stated I'm new "Beyonce" in here but I do have stated how huge amount of both females and especially "girl gamers" as you like to call us,well think!

And as I said to previous guy do a homework research in this area in see how many female players are actually requesting this thing in first place then get statistic of your own :P



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Ok my god create a article for insult Bioware because a minority of fan don t accept the sexualtity of a character !!! It s s very immature ok I prefer quit this thread !

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I never stated I'm new "Beyonce" in here but I do have stated how huge amount of both females and especially "girl gamers" as you like to call us,well think!

And as I said to previous guy do a homework research in this area in see how many female players are actually requesting this thing in first place then get statistic of your own :P

 

There are no "girl gamers", just gamers ^_^ .


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#867
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There are no "girl gamers", just gamers ^_^ .

 

With that I can agree with :P



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There are no "girl gamers", just gamers ^_^ .

This.

Thank you.



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Except that Cullen has been stated to be straight by the developers over and over again. So, I don't really understand the comments acting as if his sexuality is up for interpretation or claiming that he is Bi due to these recent "revelations". He is only available to straight female characters to romance in-game, it's as simple as that. Plus, he shuts down male Inquisitors who try to flirt with him... Regardless of the reasons behind cutting the content, the final decision was made to release the product presenting him as a heterosexual male, not bi. That makes it canon. Not cut content that no-one would have found if they hadn't been digging through files never meant to be seen. I realize it's disappointing for some people not able to romance their character of choice but...can we please not twist the truth here people?

 

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I would also like to know what was thought process of Cullen's sexuality being wondered when doing the character and then decided to straight instead of bisexual. Like what was the reason they chose heterosexuality over bisexuality for the character and was it because of time issues. I agree that he seems to be canonly straight though since it seems to decision they ended up with. Bummer.

 

I like how bothering the writer and making him justify his decisions somehow makes you think that it will make him change his mind. He just now thinks that you're being annoying whiners.

 

Good job, this "respectful request" is truly working.

 

It's not like people who would like to have bi Cullen are geths with consensus.. someone got angry and tweeted about on her own. I don't get why you are putting people together suddenly ^^;


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I would also like to know what was thought process of Cullen's sexuality being wondered when doing the character and then decided to straight instead of bisexual. Like what was the reason they chose heterosexuality over bisexuality for the character and was it because of time issues. I agree that he seems to be canonly straight though since it seems to decision they ended up with. Bummer.

 

 

It's not like people who would like to have bi Cullen are geths with consensus.. someone got angry and tweeted about on her own. I don't get why you are putting people together suddenly ^^;

 

The ones who participate in miltant bothering are geths with conscensus. I'm pointing them out. Why are you getting offended on someone else's behalf?



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Except that Cullen has been stated to be straight by the developers over and over again. So, I don't really understand the comments acting as if his sexuality is up for interpretation or claiming that he is Bi due to these recent "revelations". He is only available to straight female characters to romance in-game, it's as simple as that. Plus, he shuts down male Inquisitors who try to flirt with him... Regardless of the reasons behind cutting the content, the final decision was made to release the product presenting him as a heterosexual male, not bi. That makes it canon. Not cut content that no-one would have found if they hadn't been digging through files never meant to be seen. I realize it's disappointing for some people not able to romance their character of choice but...can we please not twist the truth here people?

 

 

 

The interactions people have been having with Cullen were most probably misinterpreted and these people are insisting that he is interested in men... Can't someone be pleasant to another man without wanting to have sex with them? Men can't be friends with other men now? WTF is this world coming to? Any man being friendly with another man must be gay?! Seriously WTF is this stupid freaking argument about Cullens' sexuality?!

 

He is your mate. Mate as in best mate, mate in the term of best friend. Do these people saying he's bisexual think real life men being friendly with them are trying to have sex with them too? 



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David's question is worth asking again in this thread: why should characters have to justify their orientation to the player?

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David's question is worth asking again in this thread: why should BioWare or the characters they write have to justify their orientation to the player?

 

They don't have to.



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They don't have to.


Bingo - someone give this man a digital no-prize!

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The interactions people have been having with Cullen were most probably misinterpreted and these people are insisting that he is interested in men... Can't someone be pleasant to another man without wanting to have sex with them? Men can't be friends with other men now? WTF is this world coming to? Any man being friendly with another man must be gay?! Seriously WTF is this stupid freaking argument about Cullens' sexuality?!
 
He is your mate. Mate as in best mate, mate in the term of best friend. Do these people saying he's bisexual think real life men being friendly with them are trying to have sex with them too?

It's not a misinterpretation of interaction. Instead, it's the revelation of junk files still left in the game, and the confusion (to put the term lightly) over why one direction was taken over another, coupled with a dose of being close to having an m/m romance that fit an archetype that hasn't been seen yet, and the resentment of the fact that when issues were being had with design, that the thing that got cut was the same sex content.

Not that everyone here feels any/all these things, but I'm pretty sure I covered the basics.