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[mousestalker]

The easily offended have always been with us. And there have always been those who cater to them. As with many things, the Internet gives greater prominence to both the whiny and their enablers.

I'd complain about it, but the 'Net has also been a blessing for grammar police, so there you are.

TL, DNR: Buck up sissy pants.

[slimgrin]

Could you be more specific?

 

Matt Taylor, shirt-shamed by wounded feminists.

 

 

The shirt that prevents millions of women from pursuing a career in science.

[The Hierophant]

Not all of us have.

Hilarious. Post this in the cringe thread.

[NeonFlux117]

Yes. 

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

**** it, I'll start my own Fight Club.

 

[MegaIllusiveMan]

IDK OP, but I need to watch my words now, because, well...

 

Really, It's a complicated situation, You'll say: "Hey, Jim, you're overweight!" or "You're fat!" and they both cause the same reaction on the person. Hell, what are they? Skinny?

 

Sometime ago, I tried to call someone a "Afro-Descendant", (y'know, not rudely, of course, but as a proper way of respect, cause IMO, they wouldn't of course Like If I called them "Negros" or "Black" (I know wouldn't like) ) and then the person said: "Know what? You're racist GTFO!"

 

Just like that, yes. I lost my job.

[mybudgee]

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Well, first of all, it depends on what country you live in. In my country, you can say whatever you want to a person or a group of people. We have rights that protect freedom of speech and freedom of expression. It doesn't mean you won't get a response or be called out on what you've said though. That said, forums on the internet have their own set of rules and those exist primarily to weed out undesirables and keep things running smoothly.

 

Personally, I think you're taking this a little too seriously.

Which country exactly?

[Riven326]

http://www.independe...ng-9862118.html

Fair enough. This is legitimate and does show that some people are being overly sensitive. But to go from that to saying ALL people are suddenly more sensitive is a bit of a stretch, IMO.

 

@budgee: The United States.

[Cainhurst Crow]

People now consider feelings more important then facts, thats what. Can't tell a fat person they're fat even though being fat is unhealthy and a lifestyle choice with real physical and sometimes mental consequences and not a arbitrary trait used to discriminate on baseless grounds. Can't say a person isn;t mentally fit to do something even though they're IQ is lower then a 3rd grader and they get into violent rages when stressed. Because someones feelings might get hurt, and thats more important then having in shape police officers or competent employees at stores, where people could hurt from their shortcomings.

 

Take a look at what happened over the Interview movie and its clear as crystal, peoples feelings now come before factual evidence or logical thinking. People felt afraid, even though there was 0 evidence to feel afraid, and buckled to people whose only power was saying mean and terrible things over the internet and nothing else.

[Ridwan]

Fair enough. This is legitimate and does show that some people are being overly sensitive. But to go from that to saying ALL people are suddenly more sensitive is a bit of a stretch, IMO.

 

@budgee: The United States.

Someone =/= everyone

[Ridwan]

IDK OP, but I need to watch my words now, because, well...

 

Really, It's a complicated situation, You'll say: "Hey, Jim, you're overweight!" or "You're fat!" and they both cause the same reaction on the person. Hell, what are they? Skinny?

 

Sometime ago, I tried to call someone a "Afro-Descendant", (y'know, not rudely, of course, but as a proper way of respect, cause IMO, they wouldn't of course Like If I called them "Negros" or "Black" (I know wouldn't like) ) and then the person said: "Know what? You're racist GTFO!"

 

Just like that, yes. I lost my job.

 

I just say black if I don't know the persons name. Like "Hey see that black guy over there, that's a nice shirt he's wearing" 

[Riven326]

Matt Taylor, shirt-shamed by wounded feminists.

 

 

The shirt that prevents millions of women from pursuing a career in science.

I don't know Great Britain's laws as well as my own, but isn't freedom of expression legal in that country?

[Cyonan]

People now consider feelings more important then facts, thats what. Can't tell a fat person they're fat even though being fat is unhealthy and a lifestyle choice with real physical and sometimes mental consequences and not a arbitrary trait used to discriminate on baseless grounds. Can't say a person isn;t mentally fit to do something even though they're IQ is lower then a 3rd grader and they get into violent rages when stressed. Because someones feelings might get hurt, and thats more important then having in shape police officers or competent employees at stores, where people could hurt from their shortcomings.

 

Take a look at what happened over the Interview movie and its clear as crystal, peoples feelings now come before factual evidence or logical thinking. People felt afraid, even though there was 0 evidence to feel afraid, and buckled to people whose only power was saying mean and terrible things over the internet and nothing else.

 

You're implying that humanity as a species ever valued logical thinking over feelings and emotion.

[Cainhurst Crow]

@Jensaarai That's Human Nature. We're very stubborn when it comes to things like this.

 

I wonder if these same people sleep with a nightlight and a teddybear, and need mommy to come tuck them in at night(or pay someone they can call mommy to tuck them in at night). Logic says theres nothing under the bed, but I'm sure their human nature tells them otherwise, despite the resounding evidence against it.

 

In my eyes, the two events are the same damn thing. People acted out of fear of nothing, and gave something power when it had no power at all.

[BroBear Berbil]

Bottom line is, parents spoiled their kids. They told them they could be whatever they want, they shouldn't settle, that hurt feelings should be coddled, and everyone gets a trophy for showing up.

 

Plus I think empathy has become so important in Western society that it's unhealthy. When I was growing up, I was taught tolerance. Nowadays the narrative isn't about tolerance, it's about acceptance. If you don't accept every new label or state of being that someone comes up with you're some kind of phobic or bigot, etc.

 

I don't think the symptoms of it are limited to the internet since the people that live in these tumblr bubbles actually exist in the flesh, and they're vocal as ****.

[mousestalker]

How to deal with obnoxious, annoying or whiny people:



Because we do need to be more Austenesque.

[Riven326]

@FrogDog Maybe I'm proving a point here, but the word "tolerance" has been taken out of context. You "tolerate" bad weather, you treat everyone with acceptance and respect.

It rarely ever works that way in practice though. That is why we have laws that protect our rights not just from the government, but also from fellow citizens who challenge them. As I said, I'm not sure if freedom of expression is legal in Great Britain, I think it is. If it is, the man was within his legal right to wear whatever he wanted and made a personal (and in my opinion, wrong) decision to cave in to criticism. That said, it was his decision to make and he bears just as much shame as those who claimed to be offended.

[Isichar]

@Isichar Try asking him EXACTLY what he feels when he sees these things. I don't know what context the nude woman applies to, so obviously you're gonna get different answers.

Like I said he makes like 10-30 posts on these things a day. I don't really need to ask why he views these things the way he does when he's going out of his way to explain them.

Again I'm not sure where the nudity part comes into play unless you're referring to when I mentioned that he'll go off on anything that so much as portrays a girl in a bikina as being misogynistic, but that's not really nudity.

[Inquisitor Recon]

@FrogDog Maybe I'm proving a point here, but the word "tolerance" has been taken out of context. You "tolerate" bad weather, you treat everyone with acceptance and respect.

No you tolerate them meaning just that. Thats all that can be expected. Acceptance and respect is earned.

[Isichar]

Matt Taylor, shirt-shamed by wounded feminists.



The shirt that prevents millions of women from pursuing a career in science.

First world feminism right here.

A person accomplishes amazing things and people scream and cry about a T-shirt.