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[Korhiann]

I have seen that post. What about it?  

 

 

Because EA hasn't relased their digital sale numbers yet, afaik, and as such we don't really know how well the game is doing if we presume that most PC owners go for the digital version. 

 

As to mainly console sales, well... Other than that there are other factors that affect sales. DA:I doesn't seem to be a very a casual friendly game (Requires a significant time investment and the starting area is generally thought of as being tediously long. It may have the same'ish scale as Skyrim, but not its gameplay) and the Dragon Age license is not as popular/well known as the big boys (Like AC, GTA etc.). Also I doubt that many are interested in the 360/PS3 version of this game, mostly because it wasn't made with the previous generation in mind, and there are still a lot of people playing on those platforms. 

If the digital sales end up not being all that great then I can also see the lacking PC port having affected sales, along with lack of modding support, but we have no idea if said sales have been poor. 

 

And of course the only platforms that count are the ones that DA:I has been released on, as such factoring in 3DS/Wii sales is pointless. What you should have done was go through their sales chart and only included supported platforms in your post. 

[DarkSpiral]

I have seen that post. What about it?

 

Well, I don't think you've read it, even if you've seen it.  That right there would be straight from the horse's mouth that the digital sales aren't released.  Without those numbers, the charts you keep looking at don't have any real meaning.  You're a blind person attempting to describe a horse by feeling only its tail, to paraphrase the old fable.

[Xx Serissia xX]

I agree, DAI should have been released either earlier or later. Instead it came out around the same time as a bunch of console exclusives and some re-vamped re-releases. (I include COD- Advanced Warfare as a re-vamped re-release like Grand Theft Auto) 

Also World of Warcraft Warlords of Draenor.  I know a lot of my guild mates were a little disappointed that they probably wouldn't have time to play DAI for a month or two.

[keyip]

This chart is from VGchartz.  If you add up three week totals from all five platforms, it comes 1.88 million (PS4-810,000; xone-370,000; x360-200,000; ps3-230,000 and pc-270,000.)  As noted, this does not include digital especially in regards to PC.

 

If numbers are accurate, over two million easy at this point?  This is not horrible.  We will see what word of mouth and pc fixes accomplish henceforth.

 

If these figures are anywhere near accurate, DA:I will kill Origins in sales.

[Han Master]

Not surprise after playing like 120 hours this game main story is weak.

[Jaron Oberyn]

I post sales charts because I enjoy discussing them. You act as if there is some weird guideline people should follow when making threads.

 

 

KH is pretty awesome though. Street fighter on the other hand.... 

 

No, you post sales charts and then mention that DAI isn't among the list, which is followed by the comment "so what do you think"? Even though this has been explained to you time and time again. If you post sales charts because you enjoy discussing them, then you'd put this in an OT forum as this has nothing to do with DA, or so you claim. You continue to post these here because you try to act as if these are indicative of how DAI is selling, when it has been stated time and time again in your other duplicate threads that it isn't, even by a Bioware employee. 

[Precursor Meta]

All I know is that I'm enjoying the game a ton. Nearly 300 hours in across 5 playthroughs. Can you believe Im still discovering new places and hearing new things.

[Jaron Oberyn]

All I know is that I'm enjoying the game a ton. Nearly 300 hours in across 5 playthroughs. Can you believe Im still discovering new places and hearing new things.

On my 5th playthrough and I can say the same. Still haven't seen it all and I've had unique imports as well as decisions in game. 

[keyip]

You continue to post these here because you try to act as if these are indicative of how DAI is selling, when it has been stated time and time again in your other duplicate threads that it isn't, even by a Bioware employee. 

 

You could also use Dizzee's "source" to point out DA:I has sold over 2 million copies so far. 

[Jaron Oberyn]

You could also use Dizzee's "source" to point out DA:I has sold over 2 million copies so far. 

We won't know the exact number until EA decides to release that information, particularly when it comes to digital downloads. 

[skotie]

Why is it not surprising that four of those top 25 are call of duty.

 

Do people ever get sick of playing call of duty? I honestly didn't see a whole lot of difference from one installment to the next.

[Dizzee]

Ahh yes it has been explained to me, but I still enjoy talking about numbers. The game didn't make the top 25, I feel like that's something to talk about. My bad if I have offended.

 

 

 

I think DA:I is doing pretty well. VGchartz numbers are usually lower than the actual sales for a game. Therefor DA:I easily has 2 million sales right now. 

 

But I'm still slightly worried about the future of the series. Only time will tell my friends.

[giveamanafish...]

You're "not ignoring", yet you continue to post these sales charts as if its an indication of how DAI is doing, when we've already been told why its not. So what then is the purpose of posting these threads if not to incite a reaction, given you already know the answer as to why they aren't being featured on those top sales charts?

Yeah, what dizee did was start a topic, using VGchartz figures (unattributed): "Week 2 Sales: DAI not even in top 15". DAI was 16th on the Vgchartz list. Now he started a topic for week 3 sales noting that DAI is not in the top 25, its at 26.

 

Also important to note that the VGchartz  lists are based on sales per platform, not total combined sales. That is the data is imcomplete. For DAI only the PS4 unit sales are listed. What's interesting about that is that the DAI listing for week 3 show just over 800,000 cumulative units sold. That is almost a million just on the PS4. It's completely possible, especially given concerns about the accuracy of VGchartz data, to reconcile this figure with the statements by Jarret Lee of Bioware in the other thread, that DAI is doing great and in combined sales is doing better than DAO or DA2 and is in or near the top 10 in US combines sales according to NPD data.

 

So going back to the old Mark Twain comment about "Lies, Damn Lies and Statistics" or something. This topic is a good example of that kind of thing.

[Jaron Oberyn]

Why is it not surprising that four of those top 25 are call of duty.

 

Do people ever get sick of playing call of duty? I honestly didn't see a whole lot of difference from one installment to the next.

This new one looks pretty decent, to be honest. Last one I played though was MW2 so that's what I'm basing that opinion on. 

[Dizzee]

This new one looks pretty decent, to be honest. Last one I played though was MW2 so that's what I'm basing that opinion on. 

 

 

Yeah that's the last one I played as well, I can understand why some people might be sick of it though. Considering there's a new one every year *_*

[Korhiann]

Yeah, what dizee did was start a topic, using VGchartz figures (unattributed): "Week 2 Sales: DAI not even in top 15". DAI was 16th on the Vgchartz list. Now he started a topic for week 3 sales noting that DAI is not in the top 25, its at 26.

 

Also important to note that the VGchartz  lists are based on sales per platform, not total combined sales. That is the data is imcomplete. For DAI only the PS4 unit sales are listed. What's interesting about that is that the DAI listing for week 3 show just over 800,000 cumulative units sold. That is almost a million just on the PS4. It's completely possible, especially given concerns about the accuracy of VGchartz data, to reconcile this figure with the statements by Jarret Lee of Bioware in the other thread, that DAI is doing great and in combined sales is doing better than DAO or DA2 and is in or near the top 10 in US combines sales according to NPD data.

 

So going back to the old Mark Twain comment about "Lies, Damn Lies and Statistics" or something. This topic is a good example of that kind of thing.

 

I found the sales from the other platforms listed there as well. 

[Jaron Oberyn]

Yeah that's the last one I played as well, I can understand why some people might be sick of it though. Considering there's a new one every year *_*

Yep. Franchise fatigue is no joke. I left the series on a high note at least. 

[Aetheria]

Well, isn't the profitability of the game what's really important? Even if it doesn't hit #1 on sales charts, that doesn't mean it's not a return on investment for EA. RPGs have always been slightly below stuff like CoD/Pokemon/Madden in popularity, and EA would have to have been pretty dumb to not take that into account when setting the budget for Inquisition. 

 

Just seems like there's not enough information in a top 25 sales/week chart to say whether Inquisition is "doing well" or not.

[ShepardMyFriend]

Well, isn't the profitability of the game what's really important? Even if it doesn't hit #1 on sales charts, that doesn't mean it's not a return on investment for EA. RPGs have always been slightly below stuff like CoD/Pokemon/Madden in popularity, and EA would have to have been pretty dumb to not take that into account when setting the budget for Inquisition. 

 

Just seems like there's not enough information in a top 25 sales/week chart to say whether Inquisition is "doing well" or not.

This, exactly. I don't care if the game finished #1 or #300. Profitability and sustainability are the most crucial things.

 

With that being said, god I do hope this game was a massive success; BioWare earned it 

[giveamanafish...]

I found the sales from the other platforms listed there as well. 

Where? All I could get for the weekly charts below top 30 sales on a platform were notes that the unit and cumulatives sales were only available to "Pro".

 

Well, isn't the profitability of the game what's really important? Even if it doesn't hit #1 on sales charts, that doesn't mean it's not a return on investment for EA. RPGs have always been slightly below stuff like CoD/Pokemon/Madden in popularity, and EA would have to have been pretty dumb to not take that into account when setting the budget for Inquisition. 

 

Just seems like there's not enough information in a top 25 sales/week chart to say whether Inquisition is "doing well" or not.

Not to go off topic. I tend to think that EA isn't just looking at the Bioware branch in terms of profitability,  but  also for its creative juice and as a key part of its corporate brand -- the idea that EA isn't just about money but supports inovation and creative design. EA other leading titles Madden Nfl and Fifa,  are basically high-selling variations on the same game. You just have to spell the players' names and get their faces right. Mass Effect and DA on the other hand are award-winning games, and now are also gaining a reputation for inclusivity (or SJW if you want). I think or hope that EA having recognized that it took on a series of over-optimistic expansions just as the "great recession" hit and having suffered serious attacks, justifiable or not,  to its corporate reputation, would look to Bioware and it's games as a solid positive part of its reputation -- giving Bioware some leeway in terms of profitability.

[Korhiann]

Where? All I could get for the weekly charts below top 30 sales on a platform were notes that the unit and cumulatives sales were only available to "Pro".

 

www.vgchartz.com/game/71354/dragon-age-inquisition/

 

Under the "Also On:" in the top right corner it shows the other platforms. 

 

www.vgchartz.com/weekly/

 

You can see the different platforms being represented, if their sales make the list of course. 

[The Antagonist]

dai is 17th, up 5 spots from last week. This list doesn't break sales down by platform though
www.chart-track.co.uk/index.jsp?c=p/software/uk/latest/index_test.jsp&ct=110015

[giveamanafish...]

www.vgchartz.com/game/71354/dragon-age-inquisition/

 

Under the "Also On:" in the top right corner it shows the other platforms. 

 

www.vgchartz.com/weekly/

 

You can see the different platforms being represented, if their sales make the list of course. 

I did the calculations (I have my adding machine right in front of me, I'm supposed to be doing my corporate year-end. Thanks people.) It is weird that PS4 unit sales are close to 3 times that of each other platform, however:

According to VGchartx, as of Dec 6, 2014, DAI had total world-wide cumulative sales on all platforms of 1.88 million units.

 

By way of comparison (which may be possible in that you can assume more or less constant errors in VGchartz figures),  DAO from 2009 to Dec. 06 2014, had total cumulatives of 4.6 million. DAI does seem to be tailing off, which may be Dizee (OP) point,  but we are right in the holiday, buy something for the kiddies season, and we also may see some pick-up with the various bug fixes Bioware is releasing. I personally haven't picked up a copy (see parenthisized section in first sentence above paragraph). 

[Korhiann]

Of course we don't have the numbers on digital sold units yet, which could certainly number close to a million at this point. 

[SwobyJ]

Such careful trolling.