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How do we tackle on line bullying?

Débuté par Abraham_uk , déc. 19 2014 09:49

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Posté 20 décembre 2014 - 12:01

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I just don't understand how it would work.

With your test, how would you know if people are telling the truth or not?

How do you determine who is fit or not?

 

Okay, granted you've probably have just come up with the idea and need time to flesh out the details.

 

No, No. I've come up with this idea months ago, I'm just not good at constructing full systems, What I'm really good at is creating new and genuine ideas then picking up the right team to fully establish the system. In short, I'm a good leader.


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Posté 20 décembre 2014 - 12:04

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No, No. I've come up with this idea months ago, I'm just not good at constructing full systems, What I'm really good at is creating new and genuine ideas then picking up the right team to fully establish the system. In short, I'm a good leader.

So basically you want to be Stalin.
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Posté 20 décembre 2014 - 12:08

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So basically you want to be Stalin.

 

Figured I'd see a comment like that. No, That's different. This is you being unable to understand what I'm trying to say.


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Posté 20 décembre 2014 - 12:09

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No, No. I've come up with this idea months ago, I'm just not good at constructing full systems, What I'm really good at is creating new and genuine ideas then picking up the right team to fully establish the system. In short, I'm a good leader.

 

 

Not good at constructing full systems?

An ideas person?

 

I remember a candidate on the Apprentice go down that route.

 

 

 

Let's just say Solomon's business plan was too short and lacked detail.

He got fired.


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Posté 20 décembre 2014 - 12:10

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So basically you want to be Stalin.

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This is getting good... :D


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Posté 20 décembre 2014 - 12:13

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Not good at constructing full systems?

An ideas person?

 

I remember a candidate on the Apprentice go down that route.

 

 

 

Let's just say Solomon's business plan was 8 pages long.

He got fired.

 

Because the business industry requires you to be thorough, But this is different. I was merely trying to spark the conversation of alternatives to the current system. I'm not stating my opinion as the best possible solution.


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Posté 20 décembre 2014 - 12:17

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Because the business industry requires you to be thorough, But this is different. I was merely trying to spark the conversation of alternatives to the current system. I'm not stating my opinion as the best possible solution.

 

Fair point. Thing is, what kind of questions would be on these Internet Licence Tests?

How do you ensure that people are not just answering what they think is the right answer as opposed to giving honest answers?

 

Trouble is at this point is that I want a bit more detail. Because your idea interests me.

I want to give it a chance, but right now I'm not 100% convinced. Perhaps if these two questions are answered you might win me over.

 

Okay that daft little script earlier was just me trying to be funny. (Epic Fail).

However I am trying to give your idea a chance. I am all ears (more like all eyes but you get the point).


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Posté 20 décembre 2014 - 12:18

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Well why not? If you're going to start banning those you find unsuitable for "healthy discussion" because they are too negative or realistic or whatever why not keep improving on the system? Have those people "reeducated".
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Fair point. Thing is, what kind of questions would be on these Internet Licence Tests?

How do you ensure that people are not just answering what they think is the right answer as opposed to giving honest answers?

 

Trouble is at this point is that I want a bit more detail. Because your idea interests me.

I want to give it a chance, but right now I'm not 100% convinced. Perhaps if these two questions are answered you might win me over.

 

Okay that daft little script earlier was just me trying to be funny. (Epic Fail).

However I am trying to give your idea a chance. I am all ears (more like all eyes but you get the point).

 

The type of questions that test how'd you react in particular situations. Complicated questions that evaluates your personality. Without even knowing your name, gender or color. I think it'd most likely be an interview, An internet interview with the person interviewed masked. And i think it's only fair to have a supervisor officer monitoring the interviewer, Then the interview report should be handed over to a team of Psychiatrists and then the team should hand over the report to the community moderators.


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Posté 20 décembre 2014 - 12:26

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I am not against re-education. It is what the UK's prison system is trying to do, all be it not successfully.

We call it rehabilitation here in the UK. It is where a parole officer is assigned to an individual recently released from prison to try and put them on the straight and narrow.

 

 

As for internet policing, well it's really tricky. Some of these articles paint a very complex and difficult to follow picture of on-line policing.

 

http://scholar.googl...ed=0CCwQgQMwAA 

 

 

I do see a need for better policing on the internet.

However I understand that it is complicated.

I am also wiry going down this direction because this is where dictatorships start.

 

Policing can be very dangerous if applied over zealously.


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Well why not? If you're going to start banning those you find unsuitable for "healthy discussion" because they are too negative or realistic or whatever why not keep improving on the system? Have those people "reeducated".

 

I'm not stating that these people will be eliminated because of their views, It's simply because they create destructive conversations that then leads to unhealthy arguments.

 

And you know what, Recon, That's a very good idea, Reeducation. Thank you.


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Posté 20 décembre 2014 - 12:27

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The type of questions that test how'd you react in particular situations. Complicated questions that evaluates your personality. Without even knowing your name, gender or color. I think it'd most likely be an interview, An internet interview with the person interviewed masked. And i think it's only fair to have a supervisor officer monitoring the interviewer, Then the interview report should be handed over to a team of Psychiatrists and then the team should hand over the report to the community moderators.

 

Interesting idea, but it's expensive. Really expensive.


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Posté 20 décembre 2014 - 12:29

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The type of questions that test how'd you react in particular situations. Complicated questions that evaluates your personality. Without even knowing your name, gender or color. I think it'd most likely be an interview, An internet interview with the person interviewed masked. And i think it's only fair to have a supervisor officer monitoring the interviewer, Then the interview report should be handed over to a team of Psychiatrists and then the team should hand over the report to the community moderators.


So are you trying to create some Orwellian beaurcratic nightmare? All this in order to achieve what? Weed out some people you don't want on the internet? Why?
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How do you determine who is and isn't "unsuitable"?

What is the criteria?

 

How does re-education work in your devised plan.

 

 

You see I am not against re-education. It is what the UK's prison system is trying to do, all be it not successfully.

We call it rehabilitation here in the UK. It is where a parole officer is assigned to an individual recently released from prison to try and put them on the straight and narrow.

 

 

As for internet policing, well it's really tricky. Some of these articles paint a very complex and difficult to follow picture of on-line policing.

 

http://scholar.googl...ed=0CCwQgQMwAA 

 

 

I do see a need for better policing on the internet.

 

Well, That's up to the team of the Psychiatrists, They have to convince the moderators and the managers of how these particular behaviors would cause destructive argument. That's their job.

If reeducation works, Then great. If it doesn't, Then that person won't be allowed on the internet.

Maybe we should increase the number of moderators? That's the only viable solution.


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Posté 20 décembre 2014 - 12:32

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How is it determined who is unfit?

Who leads this team of psychiatrists?

Doesn't this infringe on civil liberties?

How will this system be funded?

 

I am just unsure about these interviews...

 

Increase the number of moderators?

Only viable solution? :huh:


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So are you trying to create some Orwellian beaurcratic nightmare? All this in order to achieve what? Weed out some people you don't want on the internet? Why?

 

You haven't been abused much on the internet, Have you? If you have, You'd understand.


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Posté 20 décembre 2014 - 12:38

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I don't really think an "internet police" would work very well, and I can only imagine that websites like 4chan would make any team of psychiatrists weep for the future of the Human race.

 

The general problem is you're essentially trying to make it illegal to offend somebody, which is a bad idea on a lot of levels.


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So because I am a vindictive crazy sadistic hateful individual I shouldn't be allowed online? Or why don't I lie on the test so I can create this "toxic environment" others talk about?

 

F*ck that.

 

You shouldn't be aloud to go outside.

 

:lol:


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Test idea is stupid.

If you want to reclassify certain types of trolling as harassment, just do that. Harassment is within the purview of legal systems already, no need for some "internet license exam."
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How is it determined who is unfit?

Who leads this team of psychiatrists?

Doesn't this infringe on civil liberties?

How will this system be funded?

 

I am just unsure about these interviews...

 

Increase the number of moderators?

Only viable solution? :huh:

 

If you're unable to understand your own mistakes and continue being self-destructive, Then we can't allow you to abuse others on the internet.

 

The most qualified psychiatrist of them would lead the team.

 

Well, Basically yeah, But it's for the greater good.

 

Well, I can't know that right now, Can I? I'm not an expert on everything.

 

Sorry, Misunderstood question. The standards that will be held in order to qualify as a moderator will be high in order to be able to interact and understand anything on the internet no matter how complex. This is basically legislating the internet, Not censoring it.


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Posté 20 décembre 2014 - 12:44

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Leo's suggestion sounds familiar...

 

Listen to the first person to speak...


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Posté 20 décembre 2014 - 12:48

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So the big idea from Leo is as follows.

Leo. Correct me if I've got anything wrong. I don't want to misrepresent your idea.

 

A team of masked anonymous psychiatrists give out examinations to members of the general public.

Once you've answered the questions, then the psychiatrists will give a verdict as to whether this person is fit to be on the internet.

 

Passing grants you a licence to surf the web.

However "illegal" behaviour could lead to your licence being revoked.


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No, Not quite. It's simply for protection purposes, Not for control purposes. If it was for control purposes, I'd have supported net neutrality.


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Posté 20 décembre 2014 - 12:50

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You haven't been abused much on the internet, Have you? If you have, You'd understand.

I realized long ago what the internet was and adapted.
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So the big idea from Leo is as follows.

Leo. Correct me if I've got anything wrong. I don't want to misrepresent your idea.

 

A team of masked anonymous psychiatrists give out examinations to members of the general public.

Once you've answered the questions, then the psychiatrists will give a verdict as to whether this person is fit to be on the internet.

 

Passing grants you a licence to surf the web.

However "illegal" behaviour could lead to your licence being revoked.

 

No, No, No. The masked person is the interviewed, Not the interviewer. In order not to be classified according to race, color or gender. And no, Mistakes happen, We're all humans, the license would not be revoked if you break the law. We just need to stop the ones who are there just to abuse others.


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