Guest_AugmentedAssassin_*
I don't really think an "internet police" would work very well, and I can only imagine that websites like 4chan would make any team of psychiatrists weep for the future of the Human race.
The general problem is you're essentially trying to make it illegal to offend somebody, which is a bad idea on a lot of levels.
No, I'm trying to stop the abusers, I'm not trying to make anything illegal.
Any other thoughts on Leo's idea?
Guest_AugmentedAssassin_*
I'd like to state this again in order not to be misunderstood, This is merely a concept, Trying to spark conversation, Nothing more, Nothing less. Constructive criticism and alternatives are very welcome.
No, I'm trying to stop the abusers, I'm not trying to make anything illegal.
I didn't mean it in the sense that you could have legal action taken against you, but rather than you simply ban people who offend somebody else.
I get the sense that the idea would basically end up as morality police for the internet, which I am completely against.
As I said earlier in the thread, even if the intention is to simply stop legitimate harassment all I can see as a result of it is people turning around and harassing anybody who says anything the slightest bit offensive. It becomes a witch hunt, and those always end badly.
Guest_Puddi III_*
If someone's abusive online you give them a restraining order. It applies to online contact too and could stave off the worst kinds of cyber bullying that lead to suicide, ie from students' peers on facebook, etc.
Guest_Puddi III_*
Or they could you know... just turn off the computer.
Guest_AugmentedAssassin_*
I didn't mean it in the sense that you could have legal action taken against you, but rather than you simply ban people who offend somebody else.
I get the sense that the idea would basically end up as morality police for the internet, which I am completely against.
As I said earlier in the thread, even if the intention is to simply stop legitimate harassment all I can see as a result of it is people turning around and harassing anybody who says anything the slightest bit offensive. It becomes a witch hunt, and those always end badly.
That's why the moderators should be chosen wisely in order not to have power abuse. What is authority but rational leaders who have learned to use their power without abusing it? Nothing is guaranteed, That's for sure, Bu hypothetically speaking if this could be possible, At least maybe give it a try and apply trial mode for 2 weeks on particular sites and then see the results. If positive, Then it should continue, If negative, Then it should not. Also, Internet Police Officers would be monitored by supervisors, They don't act as they please, They follow protocol. For example, If a fight is starting then the officer should intervene and advise them to the righteous course according to the protocol. If they don't listen, Then you start thinking of alternatives. Warning the user, Locking the thread, ... etc.
All I'm getting from this is Leo has the makings of a supervillain in him.
Kinda like Injustice Universe Superman but way less cool.
Guest_AugmentedAssassin_*
All I'm getting from this is Leo has the makings of a supervillain in him.
I also have figured I'd see this comment. It's the easy way out instead of thinking and analyzing it thoroughly.
So? Police can't go after every kid who insults another kid online. Kids will be kids, let them deal with it.That kind of harassment doesn't stop always when you "turn off your computer" (note I said "their peers"), and either way harassment is, in fact, a crime.
Cyonan summed up my thoughts pretty well. I didn't want to be repetitive.
You said yesterday you don't think people like you. You're not helping the case by acting all "Holier than thou".
Guest_AugmentedAssassin_*
So? Police can't go after every kid who insults another kid online. Kids will be kids, let them deal with it.
Trauma won't be trauma though. Trauma leads to suicide. And it's the government's duty to protect its citizens from abuse.
Guest_AugmentedAssassin_*
Cyonan summed up my thoughts pretty well. I didn't want to be repetitive.
You said yesterday you don't think people like you. You're not helping the case.
And what makes you think i seek people's satisfaction?
Yeah, I get Cyonan's point, But all new ideas started out this way. As i said, Nothing is guaranteed.
Everyone strives for a way to get one up over the other guy.
It's natural instinct, your idea is just another such way. Except it's the white knights and the easily offended of the internet that get to impose their rule. It makes them, and by extension you, no better. It just reverses the roles.
Who will be able to tell the difference?
Guest_Puddi III_*
So? Police can't go after every kid who insults another kid online. Kids will be kids, let them deal with it.
I've survived school trauma, they ought to be able to. Government has a long list of jobs to do, what kids type online is rather low on the list.Trauma won't be trauma though. Trauma leads to suicide. And it's the government's duty to protect its citizens from abuse.
Guest_AugmentedAssassin_*
Everyone strives for a way to get one up over the other guy.
It's natural instinct, your idea is just another such way. Except it's the white knights and the easily offended of the internet that get to impose their rule. It makes them, and by extension you, no better.
Nope. As i said, It's legislated by protocol and by the government in order to protect citizens. It's very stupid to think that they'd make their own laws and apply it on others, No offense.
And some kids will be horrific little monsters if you let them, so no.
Guest_AugmentedAssassin_*
I've survived school trauma, they ought to be able to. Government has a long list of jobs to do, what kids type online is rather low on the list.
Humanity is not low on the list, School trauma should be stopped too, The whole education system is broken. The government should look after its citizens mentally in order to prevent mass shootings and that kind of crimes as it's mainly caused by trauma and abuse.
Humanity is not low on the list, School trauma should be stopped too, The whole education system is broken. The government should look after its citizens mentally in order to prevent mass shootings and that kind of crimes as it's mainly caused by trauma.
Guest_AugmentedAssassin_*
Mass shootings are caused by scum that are less than human, not whatever trauma they encountered in school. They do not deserve any sort of excuse. The education system is broken because of the poor results, not because Jim called Bob some insult on Facebook.
Over-simplifying. Mass Shooting are caused by a variety of reasons, You can't over-simplify it to that. Everything has a purpose, And in order to stop it, You have to stop its purpose.
Yeah, Sure, The educational system is broken because of a variety of reasons, I didn't mention it to add anything to the cyber-bullying case.
There is no purpose to it other than the fact that those who commit those crimes are scum likely poorly raised by their parents. For whatever reason stuff like this never seemed to happen 30 years ago and I'm sure plenty of playground insults were exchanged.Over-simplifying. Mass Shooting are caused by a variety of reasons, You can't over-simplify it to that. Everything has a purpose, And in order to stop it, You have to stop its purpose.
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