And actually I would love a DA4 that truly utterly ravages Thedas from North to South, uttering a new age, allowing everything to start from scrap ... of course the franchise is called Dragon Age but...yeah I know what you mean...but I don't think that matters this much...its just a franchise name that sounds cool, we don't really need to play during the age of the same name ... ^^
Actually, yes, the writers have said that they're going to stick to the 100 years of the Dragon Age in-game.
Actually, yes, the writers have said that they're going to stick to the 100 years of the Dragon Age in-game.
Really? When?
Still - Doesn't negate them spinning it off into a new franchise for the ______________ Age afterwards. There can only be so many stories in the Dragon Age. I doubt we'll skip ahead 58 years anytime soon though. But you only need to skip ahead another 10 or so for the Warden to be logically more likely to be dead than alive (The Calling and all - assuming he/she doesn't find the cure in time; and while I think that will come up in other stories - with someone else looking, maybe on Alistair's behalf (if King) or provoked by the Warden events in this game, if the Warden is dead, I do not think it will come in time for the HoF. Maybe the HoF even finds it but is too far gone for it to work on him/her.).
we'll just have to face it that the Warden will only be mentioned and that's about it. Same fate with Shepard, we'll never see him again, only hear that he stopped the reapers and picked Red.
I've often wondered why Bioware haven't given the Warden/Orlesian a brief cameo.
Just have them heavily cloaked and identified with the 'Sacred Ashes' trailer's "eye glow."
Make the encounter him/her rescuing you, before giving a passing nod and then leaving.
Perhaps the current protagonist could try to converse, but instead be given a letter to pass on (to former companions).
This should respect both personal choice, budget constraint and satisfy need for a cameo. Nothing more, nothing less.
They both could of been done and I think they will bring the Warden back in DLC just by the subtle hints of a personal mission.
I agree with you that Hawke wasn't utilized well and his connection to the events taking place were weak. However if he had been part of the inquisition before you become inquisitor, Hawke would have been chosen as inquisitor instead (which is why Cassandra wanted to find Hawke after all) you would have been overshadowed the whole game. I do think it would have been cool if Hawke had been an ally who doesn't hang around Skyhold but you encounter him during story missions and work together to do certain ones. (though I think Varric would go with Hawke in this case and not the player)
For me one of the many "wtf" moments of this game is Hawke going to Weisshaupt.
"Corypheus is MINE!"
*literally two minutes later*
"Oh I'm still alive that's cool. Well I guess I'll go to Weisshaupt then"
Makes literally 0 sense. They built the whole thing like Hawke felt a deep responsibility in killing Corypheus, but then s/he just... walks away for some reason. And when I say "for some reason" what I mean is "because s/he has to replace the fallen Warden in the narrative, despite the fact that Hawke is not a Warden and has other priorities". In other words, Virmire all over again. Remember all the times Kaidan suddenly forgets he has biotic powers in the cutscenes? 
So yes it would have made much more sense if Hawke stayed with the Inquisition at least until Corypheus' defeat. But! Game logic, I guess?
For me one of the many "wtf" moments of this game is Hawke going to Weisshaupt.
"Corypheus is MINE!"
*literally two minutes later*
"Oh I'm still alive that's cool. Well I guess I'll go to Weisshaupt then"
Makes literally 0 sense. They built the whole thing like Hawke felt a deep responsibility in killing Corypheus, but then s/he just... walks away for some reason. And when I say "for some reason" what I mean is "because s/he has to replace the fallen Warden in the narrative, despite the fact that Hawke is not a Warden and has other priorities". In other words, Virmire all over again. Remember all the times Kaidan suddenly forgets he has biotic powers in the cutscenes?
So yes it would have made much more sense if Hawke stayed with the Inquisition at least until Corypheus' defeat. But! Game logic, I guess?
I think it's fine that Hawke leaves, but there should've maybe been a conversation about it - someone has to go to Weisshaupt or whatever, because the Wardens in Orlais are so lost, and Hawke is the one to go but it wouldn't seem so abrupt.
Leave Hawke and HOF ALOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONEEEE!
I will never understand why there's a demand to give a voice and updated personality to a widely varied, silent protagonist from two games ago. It'll result in nothing but OOC complaints.
I'll admit, I did spend a lot of the Warden story arc thinking 'Man, it's a shame they couldn't make the Warden work.'
Though in my perfect world it would have been her AND Hawke for Adamant. Just have the Warden as Hawke's contact I guess. I can see why it didn't happen, but...it's fun to think about.
This.
The choice in the Fade should have been between Hawke and the Hero of Ferelden, assuming of course that it was a DR import.
A good way to finish dragon age is to use the characters that started it all along with the same kind of story. It started with origins might as well end the same way.
Characters like morrigan,leliana,alistair, varric,sten and cassandra ARE dragon age. Without them there would be nothing.
Therefor we shoudnt be quick to say the wardens story is over despite a few did the US. WE still got 2 old gods in the deep roads and a blight is guarantied, could even happen 4 years after inquisition.
exactly you finally get the picture...and there are no Wardens anywhere else in Thedas but the HoF...
How would people react if bioware wrote their warden differently then how they imagined their warden? probaly bad IMO
How would people react if bioware wrote their warden differently then how they imagined their warden? probaly bad IMO
exactly you finally get the picture
But to correct you no powerful warden as the HoF
How would people react if bioware wrote their warden differently then how they imagined their warden? probaly bad IMO
People need to get into their heads that there is no way they could suitably put the Hero of Ferelden onscreen. I'm sorry, it just can't be done.
This isn't Hawke who has a voice and who's personality really could be summed up as one of Diplomatic, Sarcastic or Aggressive (DA2 itself actually "sets" your Hawke's personality at some point based on dominant type of response).
There's such a huge range of variables when it comes to the Warden.
Hawke is Hawke, he's Bioware's character more than he is the player's, the difference between my Hawke and another player's Hawke comes down to appearance and the decisions made, that's it.
Contrast that to the HoF who is a completely blank slate to write into - how do you account for all the possible variables, including that he's long dead? How do you account for the wild variation in personalities between different players? Or the fact he had no voice?
Whatever Bioware do, a lot of people will be left disappointed or angry that their Warden doesn't behave\sound\talks like their headcannon dictates he would.
The HoF should have been more involved, perhaps he will be, but I don't think that will ever be as an NPC you can actually interact with. I'd love a DLC that involves looking for the HoF or helping him and doesn't actually show him onscreen.
The choice in the Fade should have been between Hawke and the Hero of Ferelden, assuming of course that it was a DR import.
There is another option that those who made the ultimate sacrifice could use/. The HoF wasn't the only PC in DA:O... There was that Orlesian warden who led Amaranthine in Awakening, granted he or she wasn't as grandiose a character as the HoF, he could still be used in this case to represent how the player would react if the hero was alive.
There is another option that those who made the ultimate sacrifice could use/. The HoF wasn't the only PC in DA:O... There was that Orlesian warden who led Amaranthine in Awakening, granted he or she wasn't as grandiose a character as the HoF, he could still be used in this case to represent how the player would react if the hero was alive.
I am starting to think it might have been better if every warden had to make the ulitmate Sacrafice 
So the only Warden to ever end a Blight was the HoF? Nope, it's the 5th Blight, right? So that means that, over the course of the History of Thedas, 4 other Wardens have ended Blights. To carry this out, that means that 2 other Wardens can end any future Blights. What happens if it's 300 years down the road? Is the HoF going into suspended animation?
And killing the Archdemon doesn't even mean you were the most powerful Warden there, frankly. If the HoF lives because Alistair or Loghain killed the archdemon, does that mean they were more powerful than the HoF?
We have no idea who the most powerful Warden alive during the Ferelden Blight was because we couldn't access most of the Wardens. It probably wasn't my Hero (definitely not at the start), though maybe by the end. She was just the one in the place at the right time to be a historical Warden.
After reading Last Flight, arguably, the sister of the guy who ended the 4th Blight was more powerful than the guy who killed the dragon. Though both were quite powerful and skilled in their ways.
The power of the Wardens is as much symbolic as personal. That was part of the story told in DAO. So if there is another Blight story, they could easily tell a story about the Wardens without the HoF.
My city elf was certainly not the most powerful Warden. He never fought the dragon directly. He called his army of golems and werewolves while he shot leisurely with the bastillas, then Loghain took the killer blow. But the truth is not important, because History will see it differently.
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