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Does being a mage impact the story?


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Ah but one can't discount the effect of playing as a Warrior or Rogue. Corypheus will even address your PC as "soporati", a lower, non-magical Tevinter social class.

He represents the old age where mages ruled, the Inquisition represents the new age where non-mages do. It becomes a contest between the past and the present to see who will win the future and inherit the earth.

By defeating him, the Inquisitor proves times have changed and non-mages will never be slaves again.

 

Technically non-mages aren't slaves and haven't been for a thousand years except in Tevinter, and even mages are slaves there. 



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Technically non-mages aren't slaves and haven't been for a thousand years except in Tevinter, and even mages are slaves there. 

That is the burn isn't it? Andraste already freed the slaves from Tevinter.

As Josephine says, "The Tevinter Corypheus wants to return to doesn't exist anymore."

It's like people in Italy who want to restore Ancient Rome.

They're probably pretty small.



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Considering andraste's surviving heir ran off with a tevinter mage, andraste's bloodline if it still did exist has magic in their blood and could probably be mages. A Mage inquisitor seems to validate that mages can be saviors of the world, bringing the ideals of the chantry if there ever was a maker, back from it's wayward course- whatever that course may be. Hopefully, something that brings dignity to the mages and common ground among mages and mundanes.

 

Personally, I like the Dalish origin because it seems the only unique origin of the Inquisitor. The possible Tal-vashoth is portrayed by Bull, the dwarf with a criminal background and a pariah dragged into the war is represented by Varric, Cassandra can be considered the pro-chantry human noble, and Viv is the Pro-circle human mage. Plus a non human Herald of Andraste seems to go with with the trope of subverting stereotypes common among the characters represented by the Inquisition's companions.

 

in dragon age origins, I used to only play mundanes but DA2 and Inquisition made me want to play mages because I sympathize with the mages' plight.


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Considering andraste's surviving heir ran off with a tevinter mage, andraste's bloodline if it still did exist has magic in their blood and could probably be mages. A Mage inquisitor seems to validate that mages can be saviors of the world, bringing the ideals of the chantry if there ever was a maker, back from it's wayward course- whatever that course may be. Hopefully, something that brings dignity to the mages and common ground among mages and mundanes.

 

Personally, I like the Dalish origin because it seems the only unique origin of the Inquisitor. The possible Tal-vashoth is portrayed by Bull, the dwarf with a criminal background and a pariah dragged into the war is represented by Varric, Cassandra can be considered the pro-chantry human noble, and Viv is the Pro-circle human mage. Plus a non human Herald of Andraste seems to go with with the trope of subverting stereotypes common among the characters represented by the Inquisition's companions.

 

There's a Dan Brown conspiracy theory about Andraste's heirs.

 

Which, I'm REALLY HOPING isn't meant to be true.


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There's a Dan Brown conspiracy theory about Andraste's heirs.

 

Which, I'm REALLY HOPING isn't meant to be true.

Well it's in a codex http://dragonage.wik...ren_of_Andraste


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True but the Codexes aren't exactly definitive either.

Personally, I found the idea Andraste wasn't a virginal priestess girl but a married woman with children to be refreshing.



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Siding with and disbanding the Templars as a mage is much more fulfilling tbh.

The best part for me is if Cassandra becomes divine it is said the recruited templars end up becoming the elite of the Inquisitions forces. I love that as a mage you can disband the order and turn it's remnants into loyal knights dedicated to an organization run by their former "enemy".



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If they're Andrastrian, you're kind of walking in her footsteps too.

 

Pfft... people still think Andraste was a muggle. I can't get over this. At the very least she was a powerful mage. It's heavily hinted that she was in fact more than just a powerful mage. And no, I don't mean she was the "Maker's Bride".


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Pfft... people still think Andraste was a muggle. I can't get over this. At the very least she was a powerful mage. It's heavily hinted that she was in fact more than just a powerful mage. And no, I don't mean she was the "Maker's Bride".

 

You mean an abomination in the same sense of Wynne and Anders?



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You mean an abomination in the same sense of Wynne and Anders?

 

No. Either OGB like Kieran and the 'voices' she heard are Dumat's instead of the Maker. Or she drank from an Elven Well and the 'voices' she heard is that of an Elven god.


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A lot. It probably has the most extra dialogue/content.

 

And human mage in particular makes you feel like 'the chosen one' more than any other background. As if your being a mage and in that position of power is for a greater purpose.

 

Female Elf Mage has the most extra content, most likely.



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Female Elf Mage has the most extra content, most likely.

 

I agree, but it lacks the connection to Andrastianism that is intrinsic to humanity. Only the Solas romance tips the balance in favor of the DalishFem.



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No. Either OGB like Kieran and the 'voices' she heard are Dumat's instead of the Maker. Or she drank from an Elven Well and the 'voices' she heard are that of an Elven god's.

 

I don't think the first one is likely. Andraste was born much later after the first blight no? As for the second, that's... interesting actually. It could be possible.



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I don't think the first one is likely. Andraste was born much later after the first blight no? As for the second, that's... interesting actually. It could be possible.

 

Andraste was born the exact same year Dumat was slain.

 

Check out my theory and then look up "Andraste's Wyvern" statue in Crestwood for more evidence.


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Andraste was born the exact same year Dumat was slain.

 

Check out my theory and then look up "Andraste's Wyvern" statue in Crestwood for more evidence.

 

More likely than a single mage or High Dragon burning an Empire's crops is a drought coupled with the after effects of the Blight.
 



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More likely than a single mage or High Dragon burning an Empire's crops is a drought coupled with the after effects of the Blight.
 

 

LOL funny that you half-heartedly poke at the weakest part of my theory. Especially funny since now Fereldan folklore (where she was born) depicts her at the very least owning a pet Wyvern.



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Technically non-mages aren't slaves and haven't been for a thousand years except in Tevinter, and even mages are slaves there. 

 

And Corypheus lived during those days and wishes to bring them back hence why defeating him with a non-mage is satisfying. Just as others find having Templars work for a mage satisfying.



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I think either a Dalish inquisitor or Human Mage would be better for story, reasons:

Dalish (any class really) because of all the elven history and lore reveals. My Dalish archer kept to the elven ways as much as possible but allowed others to have their own beliefs. Sided with templars.

Human Mage who is Andrastian and believes she IS the Herald of Andraste, until getting her memory back, then her faith is shaken, but she doesn't let the people lose faith because they need faith and fights for mage freedom, romanced Cullen.

Overall I felt more connected to the story as a Dalish mage who had history/arcane knowledge perks and romanced Solas.
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LOL funny that you half-heartedly poke at the weakest part of my theory. Especially funny since now Fereldan folklore (where she was born) depicts her at the very least owning a pet Wyvern.

 

Because it's the only área where you presented arguments rather than pointing out oddities.

Is it odd that the Armor of the Sentinel is in Ferelden? Yes. Maybe the Warden who slew Dumat fathered Andraste who was an OGB and raised her in Ferelden.

Or maybe it was just stolen by scavengers. We don't know. We can't know.

 

On the other hand, one can easily find a logical issue with the notion that a single mage or High Dragon would be capable of burning the crops of an entire empire. It is more likely the effects of a Blight that lasted for 200 years ruined the soil.
 



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And Corypheus lived during those days and wishes to bring them back hence why defeating him with a non-mage is satisfying. Just as others find having Templars work for a mage satisfying.

 

My rogue Hawke sliced him like cabbage.

 

As for Andraste theory, interesting. I never knew she was born the same year Dumat was slain. So that makes her father the warrior that slew Dumat? But wouldn't that make Brona an witch of the wilds? 



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Because it's the only área where you presented arguments rather than pointing out oddities.

Is it odd that the Armor of the Sentinel is in Ferelden? Yes. Maybe the Warden who slew Dumat fathered Andraste who was an OGB and raised her in Ferelden.

Or maybe it was just stolen by scavengers. We don't know. We can't know.

 

On the other hand, one can easily find a logical issue with the noton that a single mage or High Dragon would be capable of burning the crops of an entire empire. It is more likely the effects of a Blight that lasted for 200 years ruined the soil.
 

 

Fair enough in regards to Tevinter soil. But then I'm only capable of accepting so many coincidences in regards to Andraste herself. At first glance Andraste owning a wyvern is inconsequential. Prosper had Leopold after all. But then add in "owning a wyvern" which is conveniently censored by the Chantry with her being born the same year the Blight ended, the possible immigration of the Hero of Ayesleigh from Tevinter to Ferelden, the Hero of Ayesleigh being a faithful of Dumat, Andraste's connection to songs and voices which coincide with what we now know about Keiran, and so may more "little coincidences" that on their own means little but together paint a somewhat translucent picture and it's hard not to consider that some truth is buried beneath it all.

 

That was a huge run on sentence, but I feel it covers my point.


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My rogue Hawke sliced him like cabbage.

 

As for Andraste theory, interesting. I never knew she was born the same year Dumat was slain. So that makes her father the warrior that slew Dumat? But wouldn't that make Brona an witch of the wilds? 

 

I've considered that Borona was definitely a mage and that she had magics similar to Flemeth. This would cover both theories. Andraste was either a "witch of the wilds" for lack of a better title and drank from a Well inheriting Ancient Elven power. Or she was conceived as a way of sparing Dumat while ending the Blight.



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Or just an inteligent, charismatic woman who was capable of rallying people and taking advantage of the Imperium's state of weakness and subsequent natural disasters. 



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Pfft... people still think Andraste was a muggle. I can't get over this. At the very least she was a powerful mage. It's heavily hinted that she was in fact more than just a powerful mage. And no, I don't mean she was the "Maker's Bride".

I think it's fine if she was just a warrior.

It's not like Muggles can't kick ass.



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Or just an inteligent, charismatic woman who was capable of rallying people and taking advantage of the Imperium's state of weakness and subsequent natural disasters. 

 

Continuie acreditando em quanto acumulo mais provas.