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Am I the only one who doesn't care for the next Mass Effect?


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This is only my opinion:

I think that apart from comics/books (expanded universe stuff)l they should have left Mass Effect as a franchise with the Shepard trilogy it always felt like a one time thing (unlike Dragon Age)

We had the same protagonist, the scales couldn't be higher, basically the same characters in all three games etc.

 

I just don't see the appeal of a ME4 apart from milking the franchise 

They should have taken more time with the games and planned things ahead instead of rushing ME3 out the door

and moving on to ME 4 immediately after that 

Hell I'm more excited for a remastered Trilogy Edition than the new Mass Effect

 

I don't want a new hero or new squadmates everything that needed to be told was told its like your favourite tv show ends and then they just keep doing new seasons but with new characters and a new protagonist (still set in the same universe) 

 

But many probably disagree who wants a ME4? Who doesn't?


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I agree that the trilogy is its own thing. And that's why the next Mass Effect should be very disconnect with it, almost a reboot like game.

But I want Mass Effect '4'. Oh, I want it very much. 


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You might not be the only one, but you are thankfully not in the majority (at least by EA's estimation). I absolutely want more gaming set in this galaxy they've created.

We met and got to know about two dozen important NPCs in a galaxy of trillions. Nothing could be more significant than saving the galaxy from the Reapers, but that doesn't mean there aren't a million other engaging stories to be experienced. Our galaxy, the one depicted in ME, is huge beyond understanding. Space is too vast to truly comprehend. I think there's plenty of room for more great stories, and I love the technologies and peoples we've thus far come to know in the setting. I want more.
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Indeed, the Trilogy was only Shepard's story.

 

There's so much more we can explore in the ME Universe.

 

So many new characters, stories and locations we have yet to discover.

 

I can't wait to be immersed in a new Mass Effect story.


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Indeed, the Trilogy was only Shepard's story.

 

There's so much more we can explore in the ME Universe.

 

So many new characters, stories and locations we have yet to discover.

 

I can't wait to be immersed in a new Mass Effect story.

in my opinion Shepards story (and his/her companions) IS Mass effect 

Its not like Dragon Age where its more about world building and never a continung story


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in my opinion Shepards story (and his/her companions) IS Mass effect 
Its not like Dragon Age where its more about world building and never a continung story


This used to be my stance too.

For me, the strongest part of ME has always been the characters. That's certainly the thing I adore most about it. That being the case, I have faith that BW can craft new characters every bit as good as those in the first three games. Just taking the last game - I thought Vega, Cortez, and especially Traynor were great additions.

I've said this before, but it's still true - the toughest challenge will be replacing Garrus. Garrus, IMO, is probably the greatest character that BW have ever created, and he's perfectly VA'd. Very tough task.

As long as there's still a strong character focus to the next game then I've gone from not caring less about the next game, 12 months ago, to desperately awaiting it, now.

No matter how many problems we had/have with certain parts of the trilogy, the sum experience was overwhelmingly positive, otherwise we'd never have ploughed through to the end, and we wouldn't still be here. I hope that lessons have been learned from the Shepard trilogy, it wasn't perfect, but, that doesn't inherantly mean that the next game can't be better.
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I've honestly lost interest in Dragon Age. I really wanted to like DAI, but it didn't happen. :(

I have decided, among other things, that I'm not a fan of DA's one-and-done PCs. I'm not sure I would have enjoyed Mass Effect as much had I not been able to play Shepard throughout. DA has those awkward NPC cameos, like Leliana and Morrigan refusing to go away. Imagine a ME in which you didn't play as Shepard in the second and third game, yet Garrus and Tali kept finding their way into the story... ugh. Some fans also have a tougher time feeling any sort of engagement with their PC. I find the Inquisitor bland. I never had that issue with Shepard, even in the first game, and iterative games just build upon the character and the attachment one feels for that character.

Mass Effect's focus on Shepard made sense. It made for my favorite video game hero and series of all time. I'm ready, though, for the next hero, his/her crew, and their stories. I hope we don't get the DA revolving door in future iterations of ME, assuming there are more to come. I hope this new protagonist is engaging enough that we can bond with him/her and the crew over numerous games.
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I love sci fi fantasy, and Mass Effect is probably the only one there is right now in gaming, or at least it's the only one that's an original gaming IP that has interactive narrative and long RPG campaigns. Of course I care about the next one, especially considering it's gonna be vastly different from ME1 2 or 3 in terms of story and setting I believe.



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This used to be my stance too.
For me, the strongest part of ME has always been the characters. That's certainly the thing I adore most about it. That being the case, I have faith that BW can craft new characters every bit as good as those in the first three games. Just taking the last game - I thought Vega, Cortez, and especially Traynor were great additions.
I've said this before, but it's still true - the toughest challenge will be replacing Garrus. Garrus, IMO, is probably the greatest character that BW have ever created, and he's perfectly VA'd. Very tough task.
As long as there's still a strong character focus to the next game then I've gone from not caring less about the next game, 12 months ago, to desperately awaiting it, now.
No matter how many problems we had/have with certain parts of the trilogy, the sum experience was overwhelmingly positive, otherwise we'd never have ploughed through to the end, and we wouldn't still be here. I hope that lessons have been learned from the Shepard trilogy, it wasn't perfect, but, that doesn't inherantly mean that the next game can't be better.


They can definitely create another cast just as great as Shepard's crew. Look at their track record in that regard. In another thread, we were discussing past casts, and it really made me wish I could pop in KotOR and Jade Empire. BioWare is unchallenged in creating engaging characters.
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It's strange - I much prefer an ongoing narrative as well. That being said, I loved DAI. Probably helps that whilst I played DAO and DA2, I wasn't completely blown away by them. That being the case, I tried to think of DAI as it's own separate game, where influences from the previous games I just saw as backstory and exposition.

The most important thing that I take from BW games is the character stuff, the ability to shape my character, and have them interacting with the other characters. Key thing for this is the dialogue wheel. As long as it offers the flexibility to enable me to shape my protagonist then I'll be very happy. I know a lot of people had issues with this in ME3 as the dialogue wheel was much more black and white than we'd necessarily been used to before. I got very lucky on that front I think as the choices still allowed me to take the character the ways that I'd have wanted to. except the last 10 minutes of course, but old and boring argument is old and boring so enough about that... :D
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All the stuff I did like from DAI is the stuff they do well-- lore and characters. I just hate the gameplay. I was able to ignore or tolerate it through the first two games. The 101 hour play-through I did with DAI was eye-opening. I doubt I'll ever be able to complete it again, sadly. Thankfully, Mass Effect has fun gameplay paired with BioWare writing.

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I can see the pros and cons of DAI's gameplay. It seemed more expansive than ME to me, but then as you say it leads to 100 hour + playthroughs - which is great on one level, but on the other, it didnt really have the plot or character content to support it. I described somewhere else that DAI took me about as long to complete as the whole ME trilogy did - so three game's worth of gaming content, but only one game's worth of plot. It did seem stretched.

Overall I really enjoyed DAI, but I probably wouldn't want BW just take the DAI template wholesale and apply it to the next ME game.
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Overall I really enjoyed DAI, but I probably wouldn't want BW just take the DAI template wholesale and apply it to the next ME game.


I'm honestly a bit worried that that's what's happening. We'll see, of course.
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The galaxy in ME is very interesting and can easily tell many more stories. Bioware shouldn't try to make the new protagonist better than Shepard but rather make them likable on their own merits the same goes for the new characters as well.


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The mass effect universe deserves to be explored further, a shame they had to end it in such a bad way in the 3rd one. I was really dissapointed in the story and characters of inquisition, Bioware should realise they will never get skyrim numbers and just focus on what they do best instead of trying to skyrimize their games.

People don't buy Bioware games to recieve a sub-par bethesda experience. I just hope the writers at Bioware Montreal aren't hetero male-hating SJW's like gaider seems to be...

 

I have no faith in the lead writer to give us a compelling story. But I can't make a judgement on his writing yet since I haven't personally played Halo 4, but I've heard the story is pretty bad.


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The ME world is so much bigger than Shepard and has so much potential beyond the trilogy we have. The species are all very interesting and there are so many areas of the galaxy yet to be explored. I always find it a bit strange when people think that a fictional world has done its thing once the initial story told therein is done with. We have had a century of film with a good portion of those films being set in our world, on our planet, and yet there are more stories to be told, and yet somehow it's impossible to tell new stories in a galaxy-spanning world that has only had three games devoted to it? There is so much that can be done, and I hope that ME games continue to be made for a good long while. The ME universe is honestly one of my favourite fictional settings ever, and that's saying something.


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I think there is plenty of room for more stories to be told in the Mass Effect universe. The universe itself is at least as interesting as those of other popular Sci Fi franchises, like Star Wars or Star Trek.

 

Having said that I can't say yet what my opinion is on the next ME game, since we know almost nothing about it. All we have to go on are some incredibly vague dev statements, a few pieces of concept art, and speculation about a rumored fan panel at PAX whose existence has never been officially confirmed. 


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I'm always in favor of new IP over sequels. Which is why I'm way more intrigued by both Bethesda and Bioware currently secret yet anounced new IPs than any Mass Effect sequel. But I like RPGs and i like Sci-Fi so I won't mind a ME sequel, as long as it rise above it's predecessor ashes.

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The ME world is so much bigger than Shepard and has so much potential beyond the trilogy we have. The species are all very interesting and there are so many areas of the galaxy yet to be explored. I always find it a bit strange when people think that a fictional world has done its thing once the initial story told therein is done with. We have had a century of film with a good portion of those films being set in our world, on our planet, and yet there are more stories to be told, and yet somehow it's impossible to tell new stories in a galaxy-spanning world that has only had three games devoted to it? There is so much that can be done, and I hope that ME games continue to be made for a good long while. The ME universe is honestly one of my favourite fictional settings ever, and that's saying something.

I would usually agree with you like with the Dragon Age series I find the fictional world very interesting and even though we won'T play as the Warden again I still want more games set there and keep exploring new things (like DA2 and Inquisition did) 

 

But with Mass Effect maybe because it was a Trilogy it always felt like even though Universe was interesting it was more about the characters (because they were mostly the same) and the whole threat with the reapers felt so final thats why its more like a one time thing for me it was a special Journey and to now control a new protagonist and have new squadmates...have no motivation at all for that 

 

Still I can see where you all are coming from 



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I'm honestly a bit worried that that's what's happening. We'll see, of course.

I'm afraid of the same thing. The one redeeming feature Mass Effect would have in its favor is fun gameplay. I know some people think DA has fun gameplay. Those are the people who are loving DAI. I've always tolerated gameplay I hate in order to enjoy the DA lore and setting. I can't do that with an open-world game. For hours on end, you have nothing but gameplay.

I can at least imagine somewhat enjoying ME gameplay in such a situation, even if I'd strongly prefer a quality, focused narrative.
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I really like DAI, but every time I play it I end up thinking about Mass Effect, and how the name Varric is similar to Garrus.

This thread reminds me of why I think playable races would be a good idea, with ME4 being a distinct new start and exploration and all.

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This is only my opinion:
I think that apart from comics/books (expanded universe stuff)l they should have left Mass Effect as a franchise with the Shepard trilogy it always felt like a one time thing (unlike Dragon Age)
We had the same protagonist, the scales couldn't be higher, basically the same characters in all three games etc.
 
I just don't see the appeal of a ME4 apart from milking the franchise 
They should have taken more time with the games and planned things ahead instead of rushing ME3 out the door
and moving on to ME 4 immediately after that 
Hell I'm more excited for a remastered Trilogy Edition than the new Mass Effect
 
I don't want a new hero or new squadmates everything that needed to be told was told its like your favourite tv show ends and then they just keep doing new seasons but with new characters and a new protagonist (still set in the same universe) 
 
But many probably disagree who wants a ME4? Who doesn't?


If that's your opinion, feel free to not buy the game. But some of us are really looking forward to Mass Effect 4.

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I like sci-fi and rpg.

 

I'd much rather have another Knights or a proper Star Trek rpg but that ain't happening, ever.

 

So, there's this, and nothing else.



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I do care for the next Mass Effect, but i´m afraid that it will be large but mostly boring like DA:I

 

I could play a hundred more ME-Games with my Shepard and his crew  ;)



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This is only my opinion:

I think that apart from comics/books (expanded universe stuff)l they should have left Mass Effect as a franchise with the Shepard trilogy it always felt like a one time thing (unlike Dragon Age)

We had the same protagonist, the scales couldn't be higher, basically the same characters in all three games etc.

 

I just don't see the appeal of a ME4 apart from milking the franchise 

They should have taken more time with the games and planned things ahead instead of rushing ME3 out the door

and moving on to ME 4 immediately after that 

Hell I'm more excited for a remastered Trilogy Edition than the new Mass Effect

 

I don't want a new hero or new squadmates everything that needed to be told was told its like your favourite tv show ends and then they just keep doing new seasons but with new characters and a new protagonist (still set in the same universe) 

 

But many probably disagree who wants a ME4? Who doesn't?

 

That is definitely a fear that I have.   That they're gonna keep milking the franchise until it becomes so old and dried up that it becomes like a Cheers re-run that everybody has seen a gazillion times.

 

I hope not.  I'm praying not.  I'm keeping my faith in these guys that are writers.  I don't hold faith in a whole lot of things.   These guys?   Yeh, they definitely have my faith.

 

If the game sucks, sure I'll be disappointed.  I'll prolly just start playing indie games at that point, as they're the only ones that seem to be able to tell a story besides BioWare.


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