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[Element Zero]

I wouldn't worry too much about them "milking the franchise" to death. They aren't putting out a game per year like Assassin's Creed. I've been a fan of that series, and even I'm sick of that. This year's offerings show the lack of polish that "milking the franchise" creates.

In comparison, we have a Mass Effect game that has been in development for some time, and a team of devs telling us it's "years away" from being ready (said repeatedly during the N7 Day broadcast). Even if "years" turns into Holidays 2015, that's not milking the franchise.

I agree that a massive disappointment with Mass Effect would likely put me off gaming altogether. I told my wife as much after completing AC Rogue, Unity and DAI. Rogue was the best of the three, but was clearly not treated seriously by Ubi, since they were busy screwing up Unity. DAI was not the game I'd hoped for and expected. I don't play many games, so options are running thin.

I will have The Witcher 3, Uncharted 4 and the next Mass Effect, at some point. Major letdowns would basically make my decision for me. Amy Hennig left Naughty Dog under strange circumstances, so I have some reason for concerns for that game. The Witcher 3 is the type of ambitious that can leave the door open for catastrophic failure, and is also talking up the same "open world" tripe that we got with DAI. Mass Effect, well, we see what happened last time.

I'm hoping those games, and Mass Effect most of all, deliver great experiences that make my PS4 feel like more than a $400 paperweight.

[Rittmeister64]

I do care about ME4 (or whatever they call it), but then it is a bit heartbreaking, like trying to get together with your ex again who lied to you (Caspar the suicidal ghost's bullcrap) and stabbed you in your heart bigtime (the super dumb endings).

Will she do it again?

 

other than that, I love the games, like I love Babylon 5, but B5 at least managed a better ending, although rushed.

[goishen]

I dunno.  I think if video game literature needs to go down, it needs to go down swinging.  And I mean swinging for the fences.  I mean like Clementine and Lee swinging,  I'm also thinking that BioWare is just age trended (or rather age appropriate) to our age group.  I don't know about any of the rest of you, but I'm in my early 40's.  It could just very well be that BioWare is a niche company trying to hold on.  

 

Hmmm, sad if true.

[Jimbo_Gee79]

This is only my opinion:

I think that apart from comics/books (expanded universe stuff)l they should have left Mass Effect as a franchise with the Shepard trilogy it always felt like a one time thing (unlike Dragon Age)

We had the same protagonist, the scales couldn't be higher, basically the same characters in all three games etc.

 

I just don't see the appeal of a ME4 apart from milking the franchise 

They should have taken more time with the games and planned things ahead instead of rushing ME3 out the door

and moving on to ME 4 immediately after that 

Hell I'm more excited for a remastered Trilogy Edition than the new Mass Effect

 

I don't want a new hero or new squadmates everything that needed to be told was told its like your favourite tv show ends and then they just keep doing new seasons but with new characters and a new protagonist (still set in the same universe) 

 

But many probably disagree who wants a ME4? Who doesn't?

That's a little bit like saying "I've been on Holiday once to France so I dont need to go anywhere else ever again".

[LisuPL]

This is only my opinion:

I think that apart from comics/books (expanded universe stuff)l they should have left Mass Effect as a franchise with the Shepard trilogy it always felt like a one time thing

 

.....

 

 

BLASPHEMY!

 

THIS IS PURE MADNESS!

[JeffZero]

I'm afraid of the same thing. The one redeeming feature Mass Effect would have in its favor is fun gameplay. I know some people think DA has fun gameplay. Those are the people who are loving DAI. I've always tolerated gameplay I hate in order to enjoy the DA lore and setting. I can't do that with an open-world game. For hours on end, you have nothing but gameplay.

I can at least imagine somewhat enjoying ME gameplay in such a situation, even if I'd strongly prefer a quality, focused narrative.

Yep, same here. Open world is the way the wind's been blowing, though, even as it constantly runs the risk of diminishing potential narrative impact. Even MGSV and FFXV, two big upcoming games from series historically far more linear, are touting the term in marketing like they just won the Nobel Prize for "Catching Up." I have my concerns there, I had them with DAI, and I definitely have them with NME, but it's what's selling, so folks like you and I simply have to hope the core narrative manages to remain strong whilst likely accepting that in our eyes there's going to be an effton of padding between segments.

We'll learn a good route through the critical path, hopefully.

[JeffZero]

I do care about ME4 (or whatever they call it), but then it is a bit heartbreaking, like trying to get together with your ex again who lied to you (Caspar the suicidal ghost's bullcrap) and stabbed you in your heart bigtime (the super dumb endings).
Will she do it again?

other than that, I love the games, like I love Babylon 5, but B5 at least managed a better ending, although rushed.

B5's "rushed" end to Season 4 was the best thing that ever happened to it. Forced JMS to get to the point and deliver not one but two satisfying serialized climaxes in a single television season. I'll always be a Deep Space Niner, but I like Babylon 5 alright. And I love Season 4, mostly.

Season 5, on the other hand.

[Rittmeister64]

B5's "rushed" end to Season 4 was the best thing that ever happened to it. Forced JMS to get to the point and deliver not one but two satisfying serialized climaxes in a single television season. I'll always be a Deep Space Niner, but I like Babylon 5 alright. And I love Season 4, mostly.

Season 5, on the other hand.

The war against the shadows came to an end too fast for my taste - but at least it was ended well. I'd rather have a cliffhanger Se4 ending and half of Season 5 committed to the shadow war. Then skip all the nonsense about the ridiculous telepath sect and focus on the fate of Londo Mollari instead.

[JeffZero]

The war against the shadows came to an end too fast for my taste - but at least it was ended well. I'd rather have a cliffhanger Se4 ending and half of Season 5 committed to the shadow war. Then skip all the nonsense about the ridiculous telepath sect and focus on the fate of Londo Mollari instead.

 

Oh yeah, that would have been ideal.

[FaWa]

I for one am interested in where the series will go. I think that it's in a cool position where your character can't be the one saving the universe and delivering us from evil, because Shepard already is doing that. It opens up a lot more doors as far as character development and choice, because everything is much more intimate and you aren't jesus in space. 

 

So I think Bioware could take it in a really fun direction. The ME universe is extremely interesting and offers a lot to work with. However, I really hope they don't take influence from DAI. The Open World really didn't work in that game, and its my only real complaint. If Linearity must be avoided, there are ways to go about doing that other than just throwing a bunch of big (and shockingly empty) areas out there. It's a Bioware game, I don't want to explore. I want to talk to people, do fun and interesting quests. I definitely do not want to spend my entire time collecting 10 geth microchips or w/e.

[Nohvarr]

The war against the shadows came to an end too fast for my taste - but at least it was ended well. I'd rather have a cliffhanger Se4 ending and half of Season 5 committed to the shadow war. Then skip all the nonsense about the ridiculous telepath sect and focus on the fate of Londo Mollari instead.

To be fair, he was told to wrap everything up in season four, and was then given season five at the last minute. I light of that, I discount season five since it was literally JMS scrambling for a story to tell.

 

Now Crusade, oddly enough, might be something Bioware wants to look at. Not what was produced but what JMS planned. Searching for a cure to a plague was really only the opening quest, and was supposed to be wrapped up midway through season 2 with the crew finding a cure. That's when the REAL plot kicks in, dealing with the fact that Earth Force Military is experimenting with Illegal Shadowtech to bolster their forces. This discovery would force The Crusade and her crew to go on the run(Who do you serve, and who do you trust?). Something similar would work well for a future ME game in my opinion.

[Iakus]

The war against the shadows came to an end too fast for my taste - but at least it was ended well. I'd rather have a cliffhanger Se4 ending and half of Season 5 committed to the shadow war. Then skip all the nonsense about the ridiculous telepath sect and focus on the fate of Londo Mollari instead.

Season 4 was supposed to focus almost entirely on teh Shadow War and Season 5 with the civil war on Earth.  Heck supposedly the Season 4 finale was supposed to end with Garibaldi betraying Sheridan and his interrogation (the stuff where he was hallucinating Delenn).

 

Season 5 burned out because they used up virtually all their material before getting the fifth season greenlit.

 

As for Mass Effect:  honeslty given how ME3 ended I have no interest in seeing what comes next.  Blue, Green, Red.  Knowing what is required to get those endings, no, not a journey I want to take.  Retcon them out of existence or set things up where I can imagine ME3 ended with the Marauder Shields comic, MEHEM, or something similar, and I can entertain the notion. 

 

But RGB worldstates?  Frak that noise.  I'd rather watch a B5 marathon.

[Tonymac]

I am interested to see if BioWare can recapture the magic.  After ME3, I have serious doubts.

 

The ability to tell a story and have it be fun and entertaining is lost to them, how I see it.  ME3 has a pallid feel to me - a depressing miasma that drags everything and everyone of the characters that I came to enjoy; all was gone in an RGB lightshow.  I never felt like I won.  The culmination of all my struggles was a conversation with the Catalyst, and pick the color of your fiery death.  If that's the best writing that they can do, well ..... I'd hate to see anything worse.

 

Seeing as that Mac is still in the game gives me even less hope.  I will remain aloof.

[SNascimento]

The Citadel DLC is pretty much the funniest and joyful thing Bioware has done with the trilogy.

[Dabrikishaw]

I don't care for the next Mass Effect either. I've gotten all I need from the Shepard Trilogy.

[tehturian]

I can't say I'm not apprehensive, especially with the new team in charge. I  hope some semblance of identity will carryover from the Shepard trilogy. 

 

But hey it's Mass Effect, The universe is too damn good to limit to only three games and one protagonist. 

[Element Zero]

Bioware should realise they will never get skyrim numbers and just focus on what they do best instead of trying to skyrimize their games.

I think they CAN get Skyrim type numbers, or at least sustain AAA sales numbers with Mass Effect, but not if they try to "Skyrimize" it, as you called it. I really hope they carefully consider and adjust ME based upon this consistent criticism of DAI.

I just talked to my brother-in-law today about DAI. He was on the fence about it. I told him it's not a bad game, and listed some strengths. I then told him my feelings on the large, but empty world; the mostly rudimentary and lame sidequests; and the story that was insufficient in terms of balancing that huge world. He said, "Same feedback from users on the web. I'll pass".

I never thought I'd talk someone out of a BioWare game, intentional or not; especially not in respect to a series I've supported through every game and novel. I really, really hope Mass Effect takes a different approach.

[tracesaint]

I look forward to it. The ME universe is, well, the universe. Lots of tales to tell.

[mrjack]

I absolutely want a new ME game because unlike almost every other player of the series I thought 3 was the best and just getting started. So yes, I played it first, then 1-3, then 2-3 (a million times) but now mostly just 3. No I wasn't thrilled with the ending but the game and story were epic, it looked great, the combat was great (still could be better). I know they've got some new amazing stories to tell and I can't wait to be a part of them. Like many others I was letdown by DAI - too much open world nonsense, not enough story or focus. It did look amazing though. Except for the hair. Bioware can't do hair it seems.

[lastpawn]

The setting of Mass Effect is outstanding sci fi material, and with hope there are more mysteries there to be told. I say with hope because ME2 and ME3 told us little new about the world, so presumably we'll find out more in next ME.

 

As much as I like Shepard's story, I hope they can create something new.

[Larry-3]

I want another Mass Effect. Keep continuing the story. I have dove into it, so keep it going. Just please, no more Reapers.

[Bann Duncan]

I'm excited on the one hand, but if you'll excuse my ignorant question, is BioWare Montreal really BioWare, like Edmonton undeniably is? I'm not saying it isn't; I simply don't know, and I remember when the BioWare name was being used for a bunch of studios, like Mythic.

[SilJeff]

Not sure what you're asking, but Bioware Montreal did make the Multiplayer for ME3, so this won't be their first outing in Mass Effect. Also, people like Mac Walters [haters gonna hate him for the ending of 3, but he has been on the writing team since the beginning of the franchise] still have a voice in what happens, albeit I'm not really sure how much of one they will have.

 

So, I guess yeah Bioware Montreal is still Bioware, just a different division. Same bosses

[SNascimento]

They made the multiplayer in ME3, Arrival in ME2 and Omega in ME3 that I know of. Some of the best gameplay moments of Mass Effect are in those, but not the great story moments.