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[Natureguy85]

DA2 is ok. The combat is different but the largest change related to combat, in my opinion, is the way companions and skills work. There are fewer skill trees but with branching paths. Each companion only uses one weapon type. The combat is faster, flashier, and more cartoonish.

 

One of the biggest complaints was the asset reuse. You will go into many caves that have the exact same layout and will only change which parts are accessible.

The story had promise, but it's not the same kind as Origins. Origins was an adventure with an epic quest. DA2 is the story of Hawke doing things around a city, trying to better his life. It's an interesting idea at first, but Hawke is not much of an active protagonist. The story is more of things happening to Hawke. Where it is important is that the game sets up the Templars vs Mages conflict you deal with in Inquisition, so playing it might make Inquisition make more sense. The story actually sets up the conflict well, but ruins it in the end by leaning too hard to once side and ultimately ruining your sympathy for both leaders.

 

That said, the two main DLC quests, Legacy and Mark of the Assassin were fantastic.

 

TL;DR It's a decent game and if you can grab it cheap, it's worth a play.

[Archie591]

After playing through every game in a row, I actually got very much attached to DA2. Probably because Hawke is very well voiced and there is a ton of almost non-stop dialogue with the party. Because the areas are very repetitive and you'll be moving from quest to quest, someone always has something to say and it's fun.

 

The game has noticeable gameplay limitations like repeating areas, over and over again. Every quest pretty much takes place in the same location with some props and doors switched around. The enemies spawn out of thin air and in waves, making every encounter basically 3x as hard as you initially assume based on what you can see from afar. 

 

Still - those things aside, I find DA2 a ton of fun. The combat is a ton more fluid than DA:O, while still retaining plenty of micromanaging requirements to deal with pretty unfair combat on higher levels.

 

But mostly I would play it for the story. 

 

Go for a Hawke that only chooses funny responses and you'll by giggling the entire game. Keep Varric in your party and you'll be in stitches half the game. 

 

 

Ah man... I miss my funny Hawke so much. And not just Hawke. Isabella and Varric and Merrill. Have those in your party and it's so fun. Merrill is the girl that knows nothing about anything in the "real world" and Varric and Isabella are like caring parents, advising her about sex, romance, violence, lying, etc. Always funny.

 

I feel like DA2 was in some ways the ME2 of the DA series. So much dialogue and character development. Me likely.

 

 

DA2 is worth playing through once (but skip the exiled prince dlc it is bugged and uncompletable).

 

But you could easily skip it as it's very much a "side story". It's no more required for Inquisition than reading the novels/comics.

 

 

Never had any problems with that DLC across several playthroughs. Maybe it's just you.

[eastkaraturcompany]

When did you play?

 

With the last/final patch the dlc freezes and locks up unrecoverably during some cutscenes.

 

http://answers.ea.co...nce/td-p/219604

 

http://dragonage.wik...e_Exiled_Prince

[Vox Draco]

Beside it being the weakest Dragon Age, it is still a fun and entertaining RPG. And how many are they anyway? For the price you get it today (Legacy-DLC is however a MUST if planning to play DAI as well) you can hardly go wrong.

 

There are a lot of games released for more money today that are way inferior to DA2...

[droitdivin]

I actually played it before DA:I for this reason, rushed it though because I did not really enjoy it that much. It does give some background info but not that much that you need it to understand everything - Varric also explains most of it (i.e. regarding Corry) in general dialogue with him. 

[eastkaraturcompany]

I did enjoy the game. Enough to buy all the dlc.

 

Point was just that you could go straight from Origins (which you really need to experience to 'get' the DA setting) to Inquisition.

 

You are missing out but IMO you don't need to have played DA2 to get varric anymore than you need to have read one of the novels to get cole.

 

What new world-building is introduced in DA2 is entirely left hanging by the end of the game to be developed in Inquisition. i.e. there is red lyrium; it is bad.

[Lintton]

I say if you get it, get the legacy dlc too. Dlc tends be rather important in future events.

And I enjoyed the game. By the end of legacy my hawke was a greatsword wielding Kenshiro with the Berserker/Reaver trees. Bianca is simply OP.

[Archie591]

When did you play?

 

With the last/final patch the dlc freezes and locks up unrecoverably during some cutscenes.

 

http://answers.ea.co...nce/td-p/219604

 

http://dragonage.wik...e_Exiled_Prince

 

Hmm, I played about a month ago. Now that I read this, I do remember something similar I think. About a black screen during some cinematics with non-stop loading - however as far as I remember, I just pressed Escape and it went away, lol.

 

It's a valid concern I suppose, but wasn't an issue for me. 

 

In any case, I never liked Sebastian anyway - too preachy.

[eastkaraturcompany]

Being more of a plot/narrative person than into character development I'd probably feel better about DA2 if we'd got that "the exalted march" expansion. It really felt like it needed another act.

[finc.loki]

Is dragon age 2 worth playing befor dragon age: Inqusiton?

 

I recently picked up Inquision and I was about to load it up, and then i discoverd the dragon age keep that lets you sort of anwsear the questions pertaining to the stories of the other two games.

 

This buged me because now I cant bring myself to play inqusition because I havent played Dragon age 2 yet (played origions and loved it)

 

However Ive heard some mixed reviews on DA2

 

so is it worth playing before I move on to inqusition?

Just be prepared that if you like the combat of DA 2, which you will if you play real-time, you'll find yourself not really impressed by DAI combat. Sure pretty effects for the mage spells but that is it. The combat of DAI isn't bad, it's just that it doesn't feel epic. I personally really liked DA2, it was great fun to play. Only the reuse of environments were annoying, but it's not like it was like that the whole game. Combat was awesome, so much fun feeling powerful (in a good way, not broken like DAI can be).

 

However the environments of DAI are awesome.

[Darkly Tranquil]

Don't play DA2 before Inquisition. It will make you realise how badly implemented the combat is in DAI.

[Natureguy85]

Ah man... I miss my funny Hawke so much. And not just Hawke. Isabella and Varric and Merrill. Have those in your party and it's so fun. Merrill is the girl that knows nothing about anything in the "real world" and Varric and Isabella are like caring parents, advising her about sex, romance, violence, lying, etc. Always funny.

 

I feel like DA2 was in some ways the ME2 of the DA series. So much dialogue and character development. Me likely.

 

That's actually a good comparison. ME2 had a terrible main plot but most of its characters were good and the arcs were very good. In DA2, the plot had potential but it was ruined by several decisions. It was also hurt by video games not being the best setting for such an inactive protagonist, or at least not for one like Dragon Age. Origins was a classic Adventure story.

 

Interestingly, with the exception of Varric for sure and Merrill somewhat, the characters were very shallow and boring individually, yet their interactions which each other were extremely interesting.

[Jeremy Ray]

DA2 could of been a DLC of DA:O. It will give you some backstory. Mainly what led up to the Mage/Templar War. But it is a horrendous game in the series. Bioware did a good job with DAI, redeeming themselves tho.

Was ready to give up on the series entirely after DA2. A lot of that was because they set the bar with DA:O, and DA2 was a clearly rushed game and money grab off the success of DA:O.

[Elfyoth]

Yes, considering a lot of things.... dont wanna spoil it here... 

[Archie591]

DA2 could of been a DLC of DA:O. It will give you some backstory. Mainly what led up to the Mage/Templar War. But it is a horrendous game in the series. Bioware did a good job with DAI, redeeming themselves tho.

Was ready to give up on the series entirely after DA2. A lot of that was because they set the bar with DA:O, and DA2 was a clearly rushed game and money grab off the success of DA:O.

 

Well... DA2 took me something like a 100 hours to finish doing everything, so it would have been quite a DLC, lol.

 

It was clearly rushed, but it all depends what exactly you want from a game. If you are someone who wants story, narrative, character interactions and such - DA2 still delivered admirably. On the other hand, if you are someone who wants the game to look beautiful from every angle, have a ton of unique and varied areas and settings and well developed combat events, then yeah - you'll be sorely disappointed. Combat itself wasn't bad, but the way the fights were set up, were pretty laughable.

 

Still... I kinda liked running around in Kirkwall and the nearby areas non-stop and fighting repetitive battles. It started feeling like home. Going from a nobody who struggled with many fights, to pretty much the most important person in the city who wiped the floor with enemies, felt interestingly fun. You weren't supposed to be some world traveling super-hero that decided the fate of the universe, but rather an average Joe who worked himself up doing petty tasks and eventually finding himself dropped into impossible situations from where the hero finally emerged. And even then you could still act like that average Joe who just wants to chill in his home by the fire-place, only getting dragged into strange stuff because people want him to help.

 

 

I find that this type of protagonist development is actually a very welcome change. It can get cliche really fast when the main character is some "chosen one" for pretty arbitrary reasons and is almost immediately raised above everyone else in importance, clearly destined to save the world.

 

 

In some sense it is too bad that DA2 was basically setting up the Inquisition and that Hawke didn't get a more guaranteed role of importance in the Inquisition follow-up and possible future installments. I feel like they could have taken Hawke a step further and made him a very serious player in the DA universe.

[alchemist42]

I'd say about 10% of players loved DA2 (there's quiet a fan club) but the other 90% hated it.  

 

What’s outstanding is the combat and tactics but these only really shine brilliantly if you’re inclined to play at the highest level i.e. nightmare, the fights then become fast and furious against waves of enemies, boss + 10 elites and so on, there are many truly tough and engaging fights which require a lot of research to beat (enemies have immunities, friendly fire is ON). There are very few exploits I’m aware of in DA2 for walking through the game on NM.

 

In addition I think the characters are great, warm, personal, friends you cared about,  with much hilarious banter going on (and infighting!).

 

It just needs to be 10 times bigger in scope!

[Sylvius the Mad]

Don't play DA2 before Inquisition. It will make you realise how badly implemented the combat is in DAI.

I think DAI's combat is far better than DA2's combat. DA2's combat was incredibly dull.

[alchemist42]

I think DAI's combat is far better than DA2's combat. DA2's combat was incredibly dull.

Well if you like lots of flash, bang, fireworks then yes DAI combat does look more exciting

 

But the lack of tactics, lack of PC controls, getting the team to obey commands, slow reaction times, actions not being actioned, plus a ton of exploits makes the combat rather poor in comparison.  And the fun of beating a boss to get rare / unique gear is rather spoilt when you can often just craft better stuff.  

[Captmorgan72]

I've had several buddies of mine that asked me the same question. I told them its not necessary, you can just watch the "movie" version on youtube to get familiar with the story but you won't get to "experience" being Hawke. When you see him/her again in Inquisition you won't get that feeling of seeing an old friend, seeing the man/woman that you forged with your adventures and decisions. I would personally play DA2 before Inquisition if I had never played it. 

[Sylvius the Mad]

But the lack of tactics, lack of PC controls, getting the team to obey commands, slow reaction times, actions not being actioned, plus a ton of exploits makes the combat rather poor in comparison. And the fun of beating a boss to get rare / unique gear is rather spoilt when you can often just craft better stuff.

I found DA2 worse on some of those points (particularly the responsiveness to commands), and the lack of a free roaming camera rendered other aspects moot. Yes, the PC controls were better when compacomparing like-to-like, but the circumstances under which those controls exist is very different. It's much easier to keep track of the battlefield in DAI because the action is slower and the camera isn't tied to a character all the time.

And I like that I don't have to jump through specific hoops in order to get gear. If I want gear, I don't have to go fight some specific boss just like everyone else. Instead, I can make it. And tailor it specifically to suit my playstyle.

I prefer DAO's combat, but I despise DA2's combat. I rank DAI's combat in the middle.

[aries1001]

I aactually liked DA2 a lot. I thought it was refreshing to see a game that did revolve around a personal story (Hawke's). The main story might be somewhat weak, however some of the sidequests are really great and well done. Also, I never noticed the re-use of the assets and textures much. But that's just me, I guess. I had too much fun trying to befriend Varric, Merril, Fenris etc. The characters, i.e. the followers in this game is very well done. (but please: do get the mod that allows you to equip any outfit on them and and you...) Bioware has always reused assets and textures in their games, the DA2 game does a ppor job of hiding it, though. 

Anyway, they main gripe, I have with DA2 is actually the combat; as others have said, wave after wave. But luckily, you can buy potions, grenaded and bombs (in the game) that stuns your enemies. Very effective. And as others have said, please do the the Legacy DLC also. I think you can find the complete DA2 game on EA's origin for a very low price - Legacy and Mark of the Assasin included. 

Playing DA2 before playing DAI will really help you to understand what is going on in DAI, I find.
 

[Natureguy85]

 Going from a nobody who struggled with many fights, to pretty much the most important person in the city who wiped the floor with enemies, felt interestingly fun. You weren't supposed to be some world traveling super-hero that decided the fate of the universe, but rather an average Joe who worked himself up doing petty tasks and eventually finding himself dropped into impossible situations from where the hero finally emerged. And even then you could still act like that average Joe who just wants to chill in his home by the fire-place, only getting dragged into strange stuff because people want him to help.

 

The problem is the transition happened off screen during time skips. The worst offender is the first one, going from the prologue into Act 1. Instead of actually working your way up and seeing people come to respect Hawke, you skip past that and are simply told Hawke has made a name for him/herself. This one change could have actually built sympathy for Carver if we got to see how he was always in Hawke's shadow and isn't respected by the other mercenaries or smugglers.

 

We skip over Hawke's transition from lower to upper class and overcome the bias against him as a Fereldan. We get little insight as to why the Viscount reaches out to him. One thing they do well is introducing Hawke and the Arishok to each other and we do get to see and guide how that relationship develops.

Then, one we are champion, we really just become the mascot each side wants on their team. Then both leaders go crazy, destroying all sympathy they had previously built.

[Fandango]

That game didn't spend nearly enough time in development, so I'd say that it isn't worth your time. Give it a miss.

[Big Metal Unit]

If you got time, yes go for it.  It'll give you a much better intro to DA:I and fill in a lot of blanks (had a friend who jumped straight into DA:I without playing Origins or 2, he didn't have much clue what was happening or why).

 

Only danger would be the farther we get from DA:I release, the more spoilers are going to be leaking out in everyday conversation.  So either rush through DA2 or go into a Dragon Age blackout mode and stay away from the forums/reddit.

[bzombo]

Is dragon age 2 worth playing befor dragon age: Inqusiton?

 

I recently picked up Inquision and I was about to load it up, and then i discoverd the dragon age keep that lets you sort of anwsear the questions pertaining to the stories of the other two games.

 

This buged me because now I cant bring myself to play inqusition because I havent played Dragon age 2 yet (played origions and loved it)

 

However Ive heard some mixed reviews on DA2

 

so is it worth playing before I move on to inqusition?

It's not close to as good as DAO, but it's a solid game. Playing DA2 to see how those choices work in DAI is nice. You could definitely skip DA2, but I would suggest playing it and the dlc that in some ways are better than the regular game.