with a far smaller amount of Red Lyrium VARRIC will go insane and need to be put down.
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What the hell?
That's all sorts of illegal.
No.
I imported a keep state where Hawke gave Varric the shard. He is completely unaffected. I was hoping for some sort of difference, but nothing.
Meredith being put on a choo choo train to insane kudos to the lyrium ex machina still upsets me. I remember reading that we were meant to get more shades of grey but instead we got more shades of crazy. I know most of it was a result of time constraints but I hate how Act 3 panned out with regards to Meredith and Orsino, lol.
I don't see how Samson has anything to do with that story of Cullen's. Unless there's some context that I'm missing here.
Because it really seems something Act 3-Meredith would do. Not so much Act 2-Meredith and definitely not her Act 1-self.
Samson was the Templar delivering the letters between the mage and his lover. That's why he was kicked out of the order.
His dismissal occurs prior to Act 1 though (since that's when we run into him) so it's well before Meredith got her hands on the lyrium idol.
It's neat that it's that same Tranquil that we come across in Inquisition that commits suicide rather than betraying Samson in the quest where we go to discover how to destroy Samson's armour.
How can you explain the using it on a guy sending love letters to his sweetheart? Yeah they went by what Meredith said was the truth. Which they were pushed into by Meredith whom was crazy.
Yeah, I get the impression the Templars outright LIE about each others' activities and cover for them.
I wonder how much Cullen is dancing around the fact he was probably doing a lot for Meredith which was blatantly illegal and untrustworthy.
Only getting a face-full of what was going on when he saw Meredith was an abomination using Blood Magic.
After that he re-examined his actions and realized what a colossal jackass he was.
This is the whole point. I believe Anders points this out a few times during DA2. Meredith was doing this and obviously flaunting the rules about it. The fact that apostate Hawke was running free doesn't have so much to do with the tolerance level of Meredith as her being shrewd and knowing Hawke had a lot of deep connections and it would rock the boat too much. Hawke was too powerful to just take down and she's kind of a Batman to Kirkwall. She's the hero Kirkwall doesn't even deserve IMO. The fact that Hawke couldn't save everyone and prevent a war doesn't make her less epic- she did what she could but she's only one hero.
Batman of Kirkwall 
Aptly put, still made me chuckle Hawke is an epic hero - but a tragic one. DA2 was an exercise in futility... Would have made an awesome book, but game-wise - people like to be rewarded for playing skilfully.
And, yes, Hawke was more useful to Meredith free rather than locked up in the Circle. Meredith was shrewd, if anything. My theory is that she'd have bundled Hawke up and shut her in the Gallows as soon as she stopped being useful.
Batman of Kirkwall
And, yes, Hawke was more useful to Meredith free rather than locked up in the Circle. Meredith was shrewd, if anything. My theory is that she'd have bundled Hawke up and shut her in the Gallows as soon as she stopped being useful.
People underestimate how shrewd she was.
If Hawke succeeds, a bunch of Qunari and Abominations and Blood Mages and Gangsters are dead.
If Hawke fails? Hawke and a bunch of Apostates are dead.
Poor Hawke was propping up Meredith's rule from complete failure.
People underestimate how shrewd she was.
Frankly, I like her better as a villain than Cory
She couldn't even keep her people under control from Act 1. From Act 2 and onwards, she was too cowed by Hawke's status to confront him in regards to Anders or possibly his own status as an apostate. Despite breaking nearly all the rules of the Circle under the guise of "doing what is necessary", she still apparently needed Orsino's permission to conduct a search of the building.
In retrospect, I find her a simple and weak person, using her traumatic past as a crutch.
Mm. Way back in Act I, Karl is made Tranquil way after Harrowing for trumped up charges.
So... there was abuse way back then. Meredith had very good willpower, but she allowed her past to control her and saw abuse of magic everywhere.
Which ended up leading to there being more abuse of magic everywhere. Bad cycle.
I think it fits perfectly well with Merediths character. She was a tyrannical overzealous knight commander even back during act I.
Remember that even that early in the game she already has people like Karras and Alrik in her inner circle (Also Cullen who back in Act 1 and 2 has simply wonderful opinions like: "Mages can not be treated like people."). Karl gets tranquillized even though it is illegal to do that to a mage that passed the harrowing. Samson gets thrown out because of the whole love letter thing. Ser Thrask, a templar himself, would rather let his own mage daughter become a apostate than have her in the gallows.
And all of this was before the red lyium got anywhere close to Meredith. No, I'd say tranquilizing Maddox is totally something I can see Meredith doing.
UH meredith was always unusually hard on mages. It is said many times. However the idol made her lose any sense of compassion or mercy on mages. In act 1 thrask flat out says she changed the rules for the circle in kirkwall making them far more strict. That was before the lyrium.
I used to have quite a bit of respect for Knight Commander Meredith. The fact she had the idol for years when Bartram immediately went Smeagol is something which showed me she was a woman of phenomenal willpower as well as moral fortitude. As we find out in Dragon Age: Inquisition, with a far smaller amount of Red Lyrium VARRIC will go insane and need to be put down. Meredith also handles the Apostates you're sent to retrieve with relative leniency and leaves Apostate Hawke alone as long as he's solving the city's problems rather than causing them.
She's incredibly reasonable.
Then Inquisition has Cullen tell me she made a mage Tranquil for sending love letters.
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What the hell?
That's all sorts of illegal.
She was a great antagonist imo despite the end she got.
But she did got a bit loose with tranquility ever since Act 1 with Ander's friend and all. Kirkwall doesn't have the best reputation as being all sunshines and rainbows during DA2 for a reason.
Samson is on the streets offering to turn tricks for lyrium (I exaggerate, probably) in Act I so Meredith making the Mage Tranquil would have had to have happened before then.
But yes, it's one of the big things which mitigate the whole Tranquility thing.
1. It can't be done to a Mage who has passed the Harrowing.
2. It has to be done with the permission of the First Enchanter.
3. It can't be used as a punishment.
And blood magic is illegal in Tevinter. Rules and laws are meaningless if they aren't enforced.
That's one of my main reasons for being Anti-Circle.
They break their own rules with impunity. It wasn't just Meredith and a select few templars that were corrupt and over-zealous, it was every person under her command and in the chain of command above her (starting with Elthina) who failed to stop the abuses going on.
I laughed when I heard the banter between Blackwall and Varric revealing that the Meredith statues is still there in the Gallows
And blood magic is illegal in Tevinter. Rules and laws are meaningless if they aren't enforced.
That's one of my main reasons for being Anti-Circle.
They break their own rules with impunity. It wasn't just Meredith and a select few templars that were corrupt and over-zealous, it was every person under her command and in the chain of command above her (starting with Elthina) who failed to stop the abuses going on.
Yeah, I pretty much put the blame on Elthina and the Seekers for not stopping things at Kirkwall. When Meredith started changing things like allowing the Tranquility to be a punishment for even mages that passed their Harrowing, then they should've stepped in and stopped her.
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