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[DreamwareStudio]

Ryse? *laughs* Okay, haven't played it but from what I saw and read about THAT game you are in for quite a boring ride.

 

DAI? Not a lot of bugs as far as I am concerned, and as a fan of CD Red this should not be a big deal anyway ^^ Now I like Witcher 2, but I fail to see how it is one of the best RPGS of all time actually. Guess its a matter of taste, and indeed if W2 is the measure for a good RPG DAI might not be your thing (although crafting, for example, is taken right from the Witcher^^). DAI is less strict in its storytelling, less railroaded, and more about roaming in the world and finding your own way to tell the story for yourself. 

 

I personally consider it the best game from Bioware since, well...ME2 wasn't as good, TOR an MMO, ME3 disastrously bad, DA2 okay..well, yeah, its a great RPG, much more in the tradition of the original Baldurs Gate than many complainers might want to admit...

 

If that sounds all a bit like I am attacking Witcher, well, I eagerly await W3 as many (and curretnly I read the book-series), but it rubs me the wrong way for a long time that CD Red is declared the messiah of RPG-ing after a good first Witcher and a better yet also much smaller Witcher 2 that is nowhere near the scale of other RPGs, and all had their fair share of shortcomings often overlooked by fans that are all too eager to blame Bioware for everything bad.

 

I'm anxious to see what the developers of Ryse have done in terms of architectural and other details given my own research of Ancient Rome and the visits I've made to various sites. Any game dedicated to that era in our history regardless the game's entertainment value interests me.

 

TW II was in many ways trend-setting. Scale to me is not as important as complexity. The Witcher story-line, TW II's various paths and multiple endings, the gray decisions which made an impact, the graphics, the atmosphere, the immersion; I have a difficult time finding anything I disliked about that game. The only game about which I could say that previously was BG II.

 

Back in the day I was a loyal Bioware customer, and yet I feel more confident buying a title from another company for the first time than I do from EA. That should say a lot in regards to the disappointments I've had with titles such as DA 2 and ME 3. I've tried to overcome the bad taste those left, but it appears I have yet to do so given my reluctance of trying DA III and my difficulty in discerning hype from reality. EA made certain assurances about DA III that they have not fulfilled and that really lessens my enthusiasm. Posts such as yours, too, do not help because they barely hide contempt for other games and forces me to think anything good said about a Bioware title must be taken with a grain of salt. 

[Razir-Samus]

if you are a person that loved the combat tactics of DA:O and DA2, and thoroughly enjoyed tinkering with them as you went along, and watched your party evolve..... you'll hate DA:I, they have destroyed any sense of what the tactics and behavior system used to be, now it's just mundane and the AI is fubar

 

it honestly reminds me of the galaga type games, when you obtain the support drones that hover around your ship and fire less effective rounds than you yourself fire... except even then they still follow you faithfully and you have as much control as you can expect

[Epyon5757]

if you are a person that loved the combat tactics of DA:O and DA2, and thoroughly enjoyed tinkering with them as you went along, and watched your party evolve..... you'll hate DA:I.

 

This isn't a factual statement.  I enjoyed DAO and DA2 (albeit for different reasons), and I also thoroughly enjoy the combat of DAI.  Honestly, I like DAI better than the other two and feel they did a great job with the game.

 

I will agree with you, however, that the party AI is pretty bad.  The gradual erosion of tactic options for the party isn't a deal breaker for me, but I always preferred to pause and issue orders that way for tactics, so the DAI system actually fits my preferred play style much better.  Guess that's the RTS gaming background coming out.

[DreamwareStudio]

I don't regret getting it though I did for a while. I'm used to it now. I don't find it anywhere near as awesome as some other games I've played. There is a lot of stupid stuff in this game that you end up wasting time on like gathering herbs and ores (because you can't just purchase them except for a few very basic ones). Side quests are boring fetch quests. Companion quests are a mix and some are kill quests that feel like fetch quests. The main story has a lot of potential which after a certain point deteriorates quite a bit. When I finished my only full play through I asked myself if that was it. I have yet to complete a second run. I did at least 30 on ME1 and ME2 at least 5 on ME3. I did probably around 30 on DAO.

 

If you really want a game to play it does have its pluses. I play it still but find I get bored with it very quickly. This is very odd for me as a game like this, an open world RPG or any RPG that is well done usually keeps my attention for over 500 hours. This? I only finished one run and can't be bothered to finish another.

 

There are things that are good about it but to me combat is not interesting. It gets boring fast. And the story, while it had potential is not fully realized which hurts the game. I find that because there are so many mediocre mainstream games that this game seems to appeal to them as they never experienced DAO. IMO, I actually liked skyrim's story better because even though it didn't seem great you had a few interesting quests and some great battles. The final battle here is not impressive at all and the last leg of the story falls into such mediocrity that I slogged through it the only time I finished and was grateful to be done with it.

 

I probably sound really horrible and I'm not saying it doesn't have redeeming qualities, but when I say I didn't really find anything great about skyrim's story but actually prefer that questline to this as well as some of the gaming because I had so many more choices, then that's saying a lot about DAI and none of it good. I was truly engrossing in the ME series despite my sadness about ME3 ending. I loved DAO to bits and was sad that DA2 was such a let down. Looking back, I actually feel DA2 had much better story elements than this one. In fact, I'm starting to question if it was better written that this and leaning toward saying that overall, yes I think it might have been because as bad as it was, it felt like it mattered. Here? I could give a damn about any of it.

 

There were many things I liked about Skyrim, though the story was not one of them. There was almost nothing I enjoyed about DA 2. Given that those two stories might be better than that of DA:I is one of my chief worries about purchasing DA:I, backed up by the fact I've yet to read from any official resource possessing legitimacy that the story for DA:I is of note. 

[Razir-Samus]

This isn't a factual statement.  I enjoyed DAO and DA2 (albeit for different reasons), Anna also thoroughly enjoy the combat of DAI.  Honestly, I like DAI better than the other two and feel they did a great job with the game.

 

I will agree with you, however, that the party AI is pretty bad.  The gradual erosion of tactic options for the party isn't a deal breaker for me, but I always preferred to pause and issue orders that way for tactics, so the DAI system actually fits my preferred play style much better.  Guess that's the RTS gaming background coming out.

you didn't say that you loved the tactics and seeing your party evolve as you played... so how exactly isn't my statement a factual one, given the 2 dependencies i provided

 

the AI isn't pretty bad, it's ****** awful... it goes from functioning combat tactics and behaviors to completely eroded shadow of their former selves that are only named as such to keep the terminology consistent despite the underlying systems being gouged out

 

you could also play exactly the same way in the previous games... that is to pause and issue commands, if you are playing purely in the tactical view then nothing has changed at all, other than the fast forward button... so what exactly is there to prefer and state is better than in previous games?

[DreamwareStudio]

Got this from http://killscreendai...n-all-business/

 

The story and exploration parts of the game are boxed separately, and the latter is full of prefab errands with few ties to the themes of the Dragon Age setting. Change a few names and you could drop them into any other RPG: here’s the forest zone, the ice zone, the desert zone. 

 

 

I feared DA:I was generic and that review confirms it. Definite pass.

 

And...

 

Inquisition is an absurdly easy game, one of those titles that’s so afraid of losing a sale that every potential pain point is sanded down to nothing. (The “tougher than Origins” pre-release claim is one of the all-time PR whoppers.) 

 

 

I also feared it had been made too easy. Am I also safe in assuming it's been dumbed-down?

[Shardik1]

Calasade- Yes it has been dumbed down to the point that a monkey with an Xbox could play it.  If you are over that particular level you will most likely find the game boring if you get past the CC and other bugs.

[Nefla]

1. This isn't a factual statement.  I enjoyed DAO and DA2 (albeit for different reasons), Anna also thoroughly enjoy the combat of DAI.  Honestly, I like DAI better than the other two and feel they did a great job with the game.

 

I will agree with you, however, that the party AI is pretty bad.  The gradual erosion of tactic options for the party isn't a deal breaker for me, but I always preferred to pause and issue orders that way for tactics, so the DAI system actually fits my preferred play style much better.  Guess that's the RTS gaming background coming out.

 

Seriously though OP, the best way to know if you'll like the game (other than borrowing it) is to watch some let's plays.

[Epyon5757]

you didn't say that you loved the tactics and seeing your party evolve as you played... so how exactly isn't my statement a factual one, given the 2 dependencies i provided

 

the AI isn't pretty bad, it's ****** awful... it goes from functioning combat tactics and behaviors to completely eroded shadow of their former selves that are only named as such to keep the terminology consistent despite the underlying systems being gouged out

 

you could also play exactly the same way in the previous games... that is to pause and issue commands, if you are playing purely in the tactical view then nothing has changed at all, other than the fast forward button... so what exactly is there to prefer and state is better than in previous games?

 

Your original post made the blanket assumption that a person who liked the first two game would automatically hate Inquisition.  I was responding to that specifically.  And no, I different care for the tactics menus.  I found them to be clunky and tedious, given that I could cycle my members and issue commands to them from a paused state that were much more effective.

 

To the OP, given that you have cherry picked a review as justification for not liking a game and have chosen to come top the single most negative forum on the internet for feedback about DAI, it honestly is sounding like you were only looking to justify yourself not playing it somehow.  Whether or not you like a game is entirely subjective on you and your tastes.  The overwhelming majority who bother to go to any gaming thread seem to enjoy Inquisition, and most reviews are very positive on the game.  Ultimately, you will have to make the choice based on your feelings watching gameplay videos.  Ideally, find a place that rents game and take it for a test drive if you can. Trusting message board users is not the way to decide anything.

 

 My biggest complaint with the game is that the worst part is the Hinterlands to open the game.  The story doesn't really move a whole lot until you leave the Hinterlands.  If you're a player who has to finish every little thing at one zone before you move on, this game may not be for you.  

[Jackal19851111]

 

and Bioware has never been known for using their own engine (do they even have an in house engine?).

 

Erm:

 

http://en.wikipedia....re#Game_engines

[rda]

I think the game is worth a purchase, especially if you can get it on one of the deals they have going on pre-Christmas.

Let's start out up front: the game is flawed. The main plot is serviceable, but not great, but ?Bioware isn't usually known for their tremendous stories. What they are known for is characterization, and that is as good here as it's ever been. There are several characters I loved (.and several I loved to hate...) but ?I enjoyed my time with all of them.

The combat is different that it has been, but again, I liked the change. I played as a DW rogue, and it was a blast. Can you micromanage tactics like you could before? Definitely not. Was that bad for me? No. It was a minor irritation AT TIMES but at others it was a blessing not to have to fiddle with the tactics menu for hours at a time,

I definitely didn't think the combat was too easy at the higher difficulties. Hard and nightmare should provide a reasonable challenge to all but the most seasoned gamers. Is it tear your hair out frustrating? No, but for the most part, that's a plus in my book, not a minus.

Anyway, I'd buy it, but of course YMMv. I spent 100 hours on my playthrough, and enjoyed every hour of it.

[DArkwarrior26]

DAI in terms of story feels like a prequel to something big. Lore wise the game is awesome esp. if you talk with Flemeth, dread wolf, reading the codex and pasting the missing pieces etc.,  If your a fan of DA universe (lore) you should get this if not leave it.   

 

This is a review for other aspects: Mild Spoilers 

[Jackal19851111]

Rogue gameplay is by far the most fun out of all the classes in my opinion. My first was a DW rogue and I gave the game 8/10 overall.

 

Anyway OP if you want an honest "review" here is my impressions thread that I made prior to finishing the game:

http://forum.bioware...me-bioware-fan/

[DArkwarrior26]

Rogue gameplay is by far the most fun out of all the classes in my opinion. My first was a DW rogue and I gave the game 8/10 overall.

 

Anyway OP if you want an honest "review" here is my impressions thread that I made prior to finishing the game:

http://forum.bioware...me-bioware-fan/

Yeah rogue is ton of fun + it is the only class for me where 8 skill slots were okay. 

[NaurDragon]

You want honest feedback. I will give so honest feedback that my post might get deleted.

 

I bought this game from Origins when it was released and I had lots of issues with the game. Performance was all over the place, crashes, mantle issues; couldn't run full screen without crash, game stops reacting to my mouse. Too many ingame bugs which we gamers accept as this is how it is.

 

I've played this game about 200 hours and yesterday it stopped working because EA BS drm crap. For some reason my DAI is not activated anymore and it cannot be activated. There is over 70 page long thread of this issue in ea's support page and for some people nothing has fixed this issue. They cannot play the game they paid money for! So far nothing has worked for me. Now when people are being forced to pirate the game so they can play it they say that the pirated version runs better – what the frack!? Thanks freaking drm.

 

Yet another sad example where drm nonsense punishes paying customers – this is unacceptable.

EA remains silent but wouldn't be surprised if some sociopath comes out to gives some BS statements like; yet again we crap over thousands of gamers, and the poor little things are upset, but we are proud...

 

So as much as I like you Bioware I cannot support you anymore as long as you are part of cancer called EA – I'm done feeding the decease. I will not buy single game that uses DRM anymore – this is my promise which I intend to keep.

 

SO in my experience – avoid this game like a plague.

 

Here is link to the thread

http://answers.ea.com/t5/Dragon-Age-Inquisition/quot-we-re-unable-to-connect-to-ea-servers-to-activate-dragon/td-p/4046811/highlight/false

[DreamwareStudio]

OP, I enjoy the game quite a bit and have no major issues or complaints with it.  Looks great in Frostbite 3.

 

Regarding Frostbite 3, that engine was developed by DICE, and the team that developed the engine and maintains/supports it got transferred to EA at some point.  EA does not license the engine to any non-EA studio.  Using Frostbite 3 does not indicate a lack of passion.  Developing engines and maintaining/supporting them is ridiculously expensive, and Bioware has never been known for using their own engine (do they even have an in house engine?).

 

The "choice" to use Frostbite 3 was likely either a directive from EA or because they could get it for cheaper and with better support than other comparable engines.  This, in my opinion, has nothing to do with the passion developers have for their game.

 

Bioware helped set the precedent for an in-house engine tailor-made for specific games. Just off the top of my head I can think of Infinity (Baldur's Gate series), Aurora (NWN), and Eclipse (DA:O). Developing a game engine is expensive in both resources and finances, but those obstacles are overcome by a company passionate about a game. You need look no further than Bioware pre-EA purchase,  Bethesda's Creation Engine, or CD Projekt's REDengine for proof.

[Razir-Samus]

Your original post made the blanket assumption that a person who liked the first two game would automatically hate Inquisition.  I was responding to that specifically.  And no, I different care for the tactics menus.  I found them to be clunky and tedious, given that I could cycle my members and issue commands to them from a paused state that were much more effective.

 

To the OP, given that you have cherry picked a review as justification for not liking a game and have chosen to come top the single most negative forum on the internet for feedback about DAI, it honestly is sounding like you were only looking to justify yourself not playing it somehow.  Whether or not you like a game is entirely subjective on you and your tastes.  The overwhelming majority who bother to go to any gaming thread seem to enjoy Inquisition, and most reviews are very positive on the game.  Ultimately, you will have to make the choice based on your feelings watching gameplay videos.  Ideally, find a place that rents game and take it for a test drive if you can. Trusting message board users is not the way to decide anything.

 

 My biggest complaint with the game is that the worst part is the Hinterlands to open the game.  The story doesn't really move a whole lot until you leave the Hinterlands.  If you're a player who has to finish every little thing at one zone before you move on, this game may not be for you.  

i didn't say that someone who "liked" the previous 2 games in a general manner of speaking would hate da:i, you've completely twisted my comment and taken it for something it simply isn't, which was a flat statement with no other factors to take into account... of which i provided 2

 

you personally have to use the clunky tactical view to better assign commands to your party because the tactical view is simply the only way you can do this anymore (even though you could do the same in the previous games)... the previous tactics were clunky and tedious? well then they just weren't for you were they, but you did have another option, the tactical view! as you've said... but since tactics and behaviors of olde were removed entirely, and as to why you prefer to command them in such a fashion... well there's nothing more to say is there

[NaurDragon]

I must give my update to this drm issue. It seems the EA got their piip together and fixed the issue, at least for me, and I can play DAI again. Thanks for fixing the issue EA.

 

That doesn't change the fact that it shouldn't happen in the first place. If some one robs a bank not everyone who is client of that bank should be punished – that would be even greater darkness. It is not okay if pirated version of the game runs better. Only drm I can support is one that 100% doesn't cause issues to the people who bought their game – is there such drm?

 

Big companies are loosing money because of piratism and they have shown their true colors by fighting ”evil” too often with greater ”evil”, and by doing that they harm themselves the most. They have lost me as their customer, how many more will they loose?

[Kage]

Yes, buy the game and enjoy it.

Even if you dont like it soooo much as others, its ok. You do not have that many options in the market for character focused RPGs, do you.

[karushna5]

I genuinely loved the game, but if you want to play it on PC I suggest you wait as it has been having major glitching issues.

[hafiznero]

if u have high end pc with gud graphic card (at least nvida 8000 series)... its a good game.

[DreamwareStudio]

Yes, buy the game and enjoy it.

Even if you dont like it soooo much as others, its ok. You do not have that many options in the market for character focused RPGs, do you.

 

Sure I do. Elder Scrolls, the Witcher series, and Baldur's Gate Series to name just a few. TW III and Pillars of Eternity are coming soon, both of which look to be much better games than DA:I.

[Akka le Vil]

Maybe a bit about me can help you tell me whether I'm wasting my time. I am a HUGE fan of the Witcher series, LOVED Baldur's Gate, and dove into DA:O with no small amount passion; have since gone through several play-throughs. I despised DA II. Skyrim was okay. Being an author and an avid reader, I appreciate a really good story for a game and I found Skyrim lacking.

 

Seeing as how TW III is due out in February, I'm not exactly without game-playing options in the near future. Though I own an XBOX One, I play RPGs exclusively on the PC.

 

So...

 

Do I try DA III? What did you like about it? Dislike? Was this designed for PC and console (like the Witcher 2) or is DA III PC ported from console? Game-play always suffers when it's the latter. Are the quests gopher-like or do they offer some complexity and mystery? Is fighting more button-mashing or do tactics come into play? 

 

DA:I is definitely a (terribly done) direct port from console, without the slightest care about how it would render on PC.

Interface is probably one of the worst case of consolitis ever (it's even worse than Witcher 2 and Skyrim).

Fighting is utterly atrocious - I hated DA2's one, and I can't believe my eyes to realize it still managed to be much better. It's basically a combination of only the worst part of a MMO system, an action system and a tactical system, with none of the good parts.

 

Can't help you with the story or characters, I haven't managed to go over the interface and the fighting for now to go far enough to judge. It's that bad.

[Morthasa]

I'll throw my two cents into the cauldron:

 

I enjoyed the game. I bought the Deluxe edition and do not regret what I got (though I have to admit the main plus in the Deluxe is at the end of the day the soundtrack - gameplay wise, normal edition is fine).

 

The game is very addictive, though not as tight as DA:O. If you wish a 1:1 successor, you will be dissappointed as gameplay has changed quite a bit. I have sunk 90+ hours into the game and have just now begun my second playthrough, so there is a ton of content, though as some have already mentioned, quite a few side-quests fall into the MMORPG trap of "Fetch me 20 bear posteriors".

 

Ambients are somewhat generic, but IMO it has more to do with the fact that the game is set across two major nations (Orlais and Ferelden) whilst both previous installments were set in much smaller areas (DA:O was just set in Ferelden, whereas DA II was... yeah...).

 

I am looking forward to further content added through DLC. Just my opinion obviously.

 

If you want a more detailed analysis I recommend both these reviews:

Totalbiscuit (Note: this is just an early review Port Report as TB has yet to release a full review)

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and Angry Joe

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