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[sunnydxmen]

stuff like this would probably never be release like healing or expansion i doubt healing would be added back in this game.

[Thibax]

sunnydxmen

Hi. I understand and think about it. It's sad.

But I hope that Bioware adds new abilities if DAI have an expansion.

At least one new ability tree each class.

[Deadaimhavock]

they took out the ability to healing magic because ppl would jus run around with 2 healers all day long and never die it would be too easy especially with barriers. cast barrier, heal, cast barrier, heal, and so on  

[Thibax]

Deadaimhavock

Just a joke: "...all day long and never die..."

So Bioware wants us to die?

 

I understand the point.

But healing spell is cool and we want it back, together with more and more abilities.

Honestly, I would like to see Keeper, Bard and Spirit Warrior skill trees with a brief expansion for existing trees.

[Auztin]

Of course more options are wanted but I want them all to be different & do mildly different things.

[Abraham_uk]

Here are my suggestions for more abilities.

 

Switch Weapon: For all classes (not unlocked through skill trees. Instead available from the start of game).
Allows you to quickly switch between a primary and secondary weapon.
Useful for rogues who cherry pick their dual wield and archery talents, or warriors who want to fluidly switch between 2 hand and weapon and shield.

 

Maybe you're sticking to 2 hand but have 2 different 2 handed weapons with different stats.

Perhaps you have two different staves you like.

Switching weapons also will give you a second group of 8 ability slots too.


Warrior: Finesse Tree:
Finesse is all about dexterity, footwork, dealing precise blows and stopping enemy attacks.
This tree is not about huge arcing swings, but about small movements that make a huge difference.
In addition, the finesse warrior has a crossbow to mix things up.

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Wrist Crossbow (Active): Hold down the Wrist Crossbow ability (like you do with spirit blade) and the warrior will fire crossbow bolts at targets. This is not as powerful as the rogue's archery tree, but it provides a ranged option for warriors.
[Upgrade] Enhanced Crossbow: Increased range and damage of Wrist Crossbow.

Precision (Active): For short time warrior's attacks will have a higher chance of landing critical hits.
[Upgrade] Technique: Increases damage of critical hits.

Glance (Active): For brief duration, whenever enemies hit you, there is a small chance that they will land what is known as a glancing blow. These glancing blows will deal a lot less damage.
[Upgrade] Dancer: This increases the chances of foes landing glancing blows on the warrior, and further reduces the damage of glancing blows.

Kick (Active): This ability has no cooldown nor does it cost any stamina. Kick a foe at the right moment and you will knock down low level foes and stagger all other foes. If you time this badly, the enemy will attack your leg causing you to lose a bit of health.
[Upgrade] Kick and Strike: A foe that is affected can take additional damage from your melee attacks.

Parry (Active): At the precise moment that the enemy attacks you, you parry with your weapon. This will create an opening that can be exploited by kicking the foe or thrusting at them. This ability has no cooldown nor does it cost stamina, however if you parry too early you'll take extra damage from the incoming attack.
[Upgrade] Parry and Riposte: If you perform a well timed parry, the warrior will automatically riposte dealing a lot of damage.


Enduring Finesse (Passive): Increases the durations of Glance and Precision abilities, reduces their cool downs and stamina cost. + 3 Willpower on unlock

Enchanted Crossbow (Passive): Wrist Crossbow now takes into account whatever enchantments you have on your 1 handed weapon or 2 handed weapon. + 3 Strength on Unlock.

Reflexes (Passive): You'll be notified when the time is right to kick an opponent or use the parry ability. This doesn't change the fact that you have a less than one second window to use either ability. +3 Dexterity on unlock.

 

 

Warrior: Channelling Tree:

 

Channelling is about using up more stamina to deal more damage or endure more powerful attacks. Much like the beserker, this tree can really consume stamina very quickly.

 

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Adrenaline Burst (Active): Your stamina rapidly depletes. Whilst this is active your regular attacks and weapon skills deal a lot more damage.

[Upgrade] Sustained Adrenaline: Your stamina depletes more slowly whilst this ability is active.

 

Channel Defence (Active): For a short time you take less damage from all sources but deal less damage as well. (Makes you a tank).

[Upgrade] Immunity: Whilst this ability is active you are immune to being knocked down, staggered and immune to all negative effects.

 

Channel Offence (Active): For a short time you deal a lot more damage but you take more damage from all sources. (Makes you a glass cannon).

[Upgrade] Suicidal Offence: Further increases to damage output but also further increases to damage taken whilst ability is active.

 

Adrenaline Shot (Active): You can completely restore your stamina and reset all cool downs (except the one for this ability).

This ability has a 10 minute cool down.

[Upgrade] Adrenaline Boost: This ability now restores 150% of your stamina instead of 100%. That's right 50% extra stamina reserves. Once that 50% runs out, the only way to get it back is with another adrenaline boost.

 

Striker (Active): For brief period of time ignore barriers and guard to deal direct damage to health.

[Upgrade] Wounding Striker: Whilst Striker is active, your attacks reduce the amount of stamina/mana the target has available and reduces maximum hit points (which can be helpful if you fight a foe that heals itself).

 

Against All Odds (Passive): When more than 4 foes are attacking you, you gain a damage bonus. +3 Strength on unlock.

 

Last Offence (Passive): When health is below 30% you gain a damage bonus. +3 Strength on unlock

 

Endurance (Passive): You gain a 20% bonus to health and stamina.

 

 

 

Rogue: Strider Tree

 

This tree allows you to give orders to

Whilst this tree is available to all rogues, you can only have one Mabari Hound in the party.

Calling a Mabari to perform an action does not cost stamina, however it will cost the hounds stamina.

The "Double Team" ability costs both Mabari stamina and Rogue's stamina.

 

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Call Mabari Hound (Passive ability required for all mabari abilities): You can have one mabari hound on the battlefield. You can name the hound and in addition any rogue can give orders to said hound. This hound has it's own reserve of health and stamina that is separate from the rogue. +3 cunning on unlock.

 

Mabari Attack (Active): Call hound to attack target.

[Upgrade]: Claws: Attacks deals more damage.

 

Mabari Defend (Active): Call hound to defend ally.

[Upgrade] Stalwart Defence: Hound will take more damage in ally's place.

 

Mabari Charge (Active): Call hound to pounce on an enemy dealing heavy damage.

[Upgrade] Vulnerability: This increases chance of knocking down targets. Targets knocked down will be more vulnerable to taking damage. Please note that larger foes cannot be knocked down.

 

Growl (Active): The Mabari hound can incite fear into the hearts of enemies. This attack will reduce foes damage output and accuracy.

[Upgrade] Terror: This further reduces foe damage output and accuracy.

 

Double Team (Active): Issue a coordinated attack. The rogue giving the attack order and the hound will strike foe at the same time for an attack that is greater than the sum of its parts. This is the only active ability in this tree that cost's the rogue stamina.

[Upgrade] Torpor: The attack will inflict a heavy bleeding state in addition to dealing a lot of damage.

 

Durability (Passive): Increases the Mabari's health and stamina by 50%. +3 cunning on unlock.

 

Damage (Passive): Increases the Mabari's damage output by 50%. + 3 cunning on unlock.

 

 

 

Rogue: Scoundrel Tree:

They will do whatever it takes to gain the upper hand in battle. Devoid of any respect and honour, scoundrels are dedicated towards fighting dirty and will even betray their own allies if it ensures victory.

 

Spoiler

 

Feign Death (Active): Appear lying dead on the ground.

[Upgrade] SURPRISE!:  Spring from the ground for a powerful critical hit.

 

Below The Belt (Active): Attack a foes legs reducing mobility. Male opponents be warned. Rogues will go straight for the midsection weakening foe's damage output and damage resistance.

[Upgrade] Low Blow: This ability now has the chance to paralyse foes. This also increases reduction in mobility and for male opponents further increases weakening of foe's damage output and damage resistance.

 

Insult (Active): The rogue taunts a foe with an insult. This insult puts the foe into a rage. This rage greatly reduces their accuracy but also increases their damage output.

[Upgrade] Grievous Insult: The rogue says the unthinkable. This insult will disable the foe's ability to use their special attacks (the ones that use stamina/mana). The AI will rush towards the rogue in a very predictable manner as well.

 

Intoxicating Flask (Active): This flask contains a cocktail of various drugs that causes foes to hallucinate, lose balance, attack thin air, attack their fellow allies, reduce their speed and fall over passing out. Please note that not all debuffs will work on all foes.

[Upgrade] Chaotic Flask: Increases the radius of effect from 2m to 5m.

 

Divert Attention (Active): Divert attention from the rogue to an ally of your choice. This ability will make any foes currently attacking the rogue attack chosen ally instead. This is best used if there is a tank on the battlefield.

[Upgrade] Betrayal: This upgrade makes 100% of all of the enemies on the battlefield attack the ally of choice. The effect lasts till every foe on the battlefield has been slain or the you choose a different target to divert attention towards. This is a very risky upgrade.

 

Scourge (Passive): Increases damage output of Surprise, Intoxicating Flask and Below The Belt abilities. +3 Cunning.

 

Tainted Weapons (Passive): All of the dual wield and archery talents are guaranteed to inflict bleed effect (with exception of spirits, abominations, golems and darkspawn). In addition there is a small chance that dual wield and archery talents can blind foes. +3 Dexterity.

 

Ruin (Passive): Increases debuffs from Below The Belt, Insult and Intoxicating Flask. +3 will power.

 

 

 

Mage: Creation Tree:

 

The creation tree is dedicated towards protecting allies from harm, de-buffing foes and healing the party.

 

Spoiler

 

Poisonous Gas (Active): Deploy a cloud of multiple weakening effects. Anyone who walks into the cloud friend or foe will be affected.

Each debuff has a % chance of affecting those who walk into the cloud. Debuffs include:

 

Reduction to maximum health

Reduction to maximum stamina/mana

Reduction in foe accuracy

Reduction in foe damage output

Reduction in foe damage resistance

Reduction in foe movement speed

 

[Upgrade] Miasmic Gas: The gas'  radius of effect increases from 2 metres to 5 metres. Also improves odds of debuffs being inflicted.

 

 

 

Rallying Mist (Active): Deploy a cloud of multiple enhancement effects. Anyone who walks into the mist friend or foe will be affected.

Each buff has a % chance of affect those who walk into the cloud. Debuffs include.

 

Increase in damage resistance.

A health regeneration effect.

Increase in critical hit chance

Increase in critical hit damage.

Increase in movement speed

Increase in overall damage output

 

[Upgrade] Heroic Mist: Increases the mist's radius of effect increases from 2 metres to 5 metres. Also improves odds of buffs being added to those who walk into mist.

 

 

 

Yell For Help: Stagger everyone friend or foe on the battlefield (friend and foe alike) with a powerful earthquake and restore health to entire party. The quake lasts 3 seconds. This has a 5 minute cool down. If there are any means of reducing length of cooldowns they will not affect this ability.

[Upgrade] Healing Quake: Fully restores health to all allies. But this increases cool down to 6 minutes.

 

 

Oil (Active): Make a single target highly vulnerable against all fire attacks (including fire enchantments on weapons). This also has the potential to slow down the target and even blind them.

[Upgrade] Oil and Drench: In addition to covering foe in oil, they are covered in water too. This makes them even more vulnerable against fire attacks but also makes them vulnerable to ice and lightning attacks too.

 

Repulsion Glyph (Active): This glyph repels any foe that comes close, unless it is a boss enemy.

[Upgrade] Power Glyph: This glyph now sends foes flying away should they get too close. Also increases radius of effect from 1 metre to 3 metres.

 

 

Self Healing (Passive):  Outside of battle the mage has a slow rate of health regeneration. +3 Constitution on unlock.

 

Keeper's Embrace (Passive): Vines protect the caster trapping any foe who closes in for melee. This affect is only active as long as the mage is standing still. If the mage is moving the vines won't do anything. +3 Willpower on unlock.

 

Petrify (Passive): Adds a small amount of earth and nature damage to all of the mage's inferno, winter and lightning spells as well as the mages regular staff attacks. Each attack will also have a small chance of petrifying a target. +3 Magic on unlock.

 

 

 

Mage: Arcane Tree:

 

Control the battlefield with telekinetic and mind altering spells.

 

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Elemental Weapons (active): Briefly amplify all elemental enchantments on party's weapons.

[Upgrade] Telekinetic Weapons: In addition to elemental enchantments being amplified, entire party has increased chance of knocking down or staggering foes with regular attacks.

 

Mind Pull (active): Telekinetically pull a foe towards you.

[Upgrade] Area Pull: You can now potentially pull any foes within 2 metres of the target.

 

Mind Control (active): Turn a foe into a temporary ally. Does not work on all foes. Those immune to mind control affect will instead suffer a penalty to accuracy.

[Upgrade] Dominate: Mind control affect now can affect any foes within 5 metres of the target. Once again those immune to mind control affect will instead suffer a penalty to accuracy.

 

Blinding Flash (active): Stun multiple foes with a small blinding ball of light. Radius 3 metres.

[Upgrade] Flare: A giant ball of light will hit foes knocking them backwards. Radius 6 metres.

 

Arcane Block (active): The only ability that doesn't incur a cooldown. When timed perfectly, this block attack will reduce any incoming damage. By perfect timing, this means the very moment that the projectile or melee attack hits the mage is the moment the block should happen. To early or too late and the block will be ineffective.

[Upgrade] Arcane Ward: When timed perfectly the ward will now deflect the melee/ranged/magical attack right back at the foe.

 

Telekinesis (Passive): Improves all arcane abilities. +3 Magic on unlock.

 

Magic Aura (Passive): Hostile spells deal 20% less damage to the mage. +3 Constitution on unlock.

 

Peace of Mind (Passive): Outright immunity to all negative affects, stagger and knock down effects. +3 Will Power on unlock.

 

[JadeDragon]

Switching weapons can work for mages so that way if we are fighting a fire dragon and have a fire staff boom switch to ice staff. Ice barrier blocking the way boom back to fire staff. what mages lack in weapon variety they make up for in elements and that should be focused on more.

[Tayah]

stuff like this would probably never be release like healing or expansion i doubt healing would be added back in this game.

Even if this doesn't happen for DAI in an expansion or dlc and I agree it's unlikely maybe seeing this kind of thread will give them something to think about for the next game and let them know that more skills/abilities/skill trees would be welcome.

 

Personally I think the more ways you can customise your character the better and being able to switch weapons in combat and open up more skill slots at least would help with the tedium of fights at the moment.

[Thibax]

Abraham_uk

Switching weapons can be a great option for all classes and it will be so helpful in many cases, mainly when we say about elemental damage.

Your abilities are all well written and defined with a purpose. Amazing!

Crossbow for warriors, mabaris for rogues and creation for mages would be welcome.

I want to see all this in practice. Bioware, where are you?

 

 

JadeDragon

Well thought! It would be the key to a flexible fight.

 

Tayah

I agree with you. Switching weapons, more slots and abilities, with such tools would make the dynamic character and we would have more curiosity to play again using other options.

[Abraham_uk]

Inquisitor Specific Abilities: The Inquisitor has 3 new abilities which are related to the green mark on their hand. (Available to all classes).

As you level up each ability automatically gets stronger, no need to spend ability points for these abilities to grow.

The reason for the short durations and long cool downs is because these abilities are over powered and don't consume any resources.

 

 

Rift Heal:

This ability restores some health, stamina/manna in addition to restoring barriers, removing negative effects and other effects.

Has a cool down of 60 minutes and doesn't cost any stamina/mana or focus.

 

Spoiler

Level 1: Restore 15% health to all allies. (do not add/multiply the percentages)

Level 2: Restore 15% stamina to all allies. (do not add/multiply the percentages)

Level 3: Restore 15% barriers to all allies. (That is 15% of the maximum amount of barrier each character can currently have determined by stats) (do not add/multiply the percentages)

 

Level 4: Restore 15% guard to all allies. (That is 15% of the maximum amount of guard each character can currently have determined by stats) (do not add/multiply the percentages)

 

Level 5: Restore 30% health to all allies

Level 6: Restore 30% stamina to all allies

Level 7: Restore 30% barriers to all allies

Level 8: Restore 30% guard to all allies

Level 9: Restore 45% health and stamina to all allies

Level 10: Restore 45% barriers and guard to all allies

Level 11: Remove all negative effects on all allies

Level 12: Restore 60% health to all allies

Level 13: Restore 60% stamina to all allies

Level 14: Restore 60% barriers to all allies

Level 15: Restore 60% guard to all allies

Level 16: Revive all fallen allies

Level 17: Restore 80% health and stamina to all allies

Level 18: Restore 80% guard and barriers to all allies

Level 19: Restore 100% health and stamina to all allies

Level 20: Restore 100% guard and barriers to all allies

 

Rift Weapons:

Add the power of the rift to the weapons of the entire party for 20 seconds.

This enhances the damage output of all weapons and adds chance to debuff enemies.

Buffs from this ability do not apply to talents and spells, just the regular attacks.

This has a 60 minute cool down period (that starts after the duration wears out)

Again it doesn't consume stamina/mana or focus.

 

Spoiler

Level 1: Increases weapon damage by 10% (do not add/multiply the percentages)
Level 2: Weapon strikes have a 2% chance of inflicting slow on enemies. (Slowing foes down by 20%)
Level 3: Weapon strikes have a 2% chance of inflicting weakening on enemies. (Reducing foes damage output by 20%)
Level 4: Weapons strikes have a 2% chance of inflicting vulnerability on enemies. (Making foes take 20% more damage from all sources)
Level 5: Weapon strikes have a 2% chance of inflicting blind on enemies (Reducing foes accuracy by 40%)
Level 6: Increases weapon damage by 20% (a further 10%)
Level 7: Weapon strikes have a 2% chance of inflicting stun on enemies (Making foes stunned for 5 seconds) 
Level 8: Weapon strikes have a 20% chance of inflicting knock down. (unless the characters odds already exceed this)
Level 9: Weapon strikes have a 20% chance of inflicting bleed damage over time effect
Level 10: Weapon strikes now completely ignore barriers and guard.
Level 11: Increases weapon damage by 30%
Level 12: Weapon strikes have a 2% chance of inflicting confuse on enemies (making foes attack each other, though many foes are immune to this)
Level 13: Weapon strikes have a 2% chance of inflicting paralysis on a foe (making foes unable to move for 10 seconds)
Level 14: Weapon strikes have a 2% chance of inflicting curse on a foe (making foe unable to restore health or use their talents/spells)
Level 15: Weapon strikes have a 2% chance of inflicting wound (which permanently reduces maximum health and stamina/mana by 40% but effect doesn't stack)
Level 16: Increases weapon damage by 40%
Level 17: Increases critical hit chance to 50% (unless critical hit chance is at or above 30%)
Level 18: Increases critical hit damage to 50% (unless critical hit chance is at or above 50%)
Level 19: Weapon strikes have a 2% chance to inflict acid. (Makes foes take 50% more damage from elemental attacks and spells)
Level 20: Increases weapon damage by 60%

 

 

Rift Aura:

This ability makes the party a lot more durable and manage mana/stamina a lot better. It also makes everyone immune to negative effects and removes any current negative effects. It lasts 20 seconds, has a 60 minute cooldown and doesn't cost any stamina/mana or focus.

 

Spoiler

Level 1: Reduces stamina/mana consumption by 20% (do not add/multiply the percentages)
Level 2: Reduces damage taken by 20% (do not add/multiply the percentages)
Level 3: Increases rate of focus growth by 20% (do not add/multiply the percentages)
Level 4: Reduces stamina/mana consumption by 25% 
Level 5: Reduces damage taken by 25%
Level 6: Increases rate of focus growth by 25%
Level 7: Reduces stamina/mana consumption by 30% 
Level 8:  Reduces damage taken by 30%
Level 9: Increases rate of focus growth by 30%
Level 10: Reduces stamina/mana consumption by 35%
Level 11: Reduces damage taken by 35%
Level 12: Increases rate of focus growth by 40%
Level 13: Reduces stamina/mana consumption by 40%
Level 14: Reduces damage taken by 40%
Level 15: Increases rate of focus growth by 45%
Level 16: Reduces stamina/mana consumption by 50%
Level 17: Reduces damage taken by 50%
Level 18: Increases rate of focus growth by 60%
Level 19: Reduces stamina/mana consumption by 60%
Level 20: Reduces damage taken by 60%

[Thibax]

Abraham_uk

Yes! The green mark need more content.

It's strange that we can't do more things using the mark.

And you gave more options, thus expanding the power of the inquisitor, adding an unique value for the ability of the main character.