Why does bhelen betray female dwarf noble?
#1
Posté 21 décembre 2014 - 10:53
#2
Posté 21 décembre 2014 - 10:58
Because she is older (and more popular) than him.
#3
Posté 21 décembre 2014 - 11:28
Maybe if she married another noble dwarf, he could become the king of orzamar?.
#4
Posté 21 décembre 2014 - 11:52
Female dwarves can become queens. Bhelen mentions it in his sale pitch before the expedition. Something about it's been known to pick the younger sibling in favor of an unpopular heir and that twice it was a woman. So he doesn't really benefit from having a popular sister that ends up inheriting the throne.
The Wiki mentions Queen Getha and Queen Valda as example of lady dwarves on the throne.
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#5
Posté 22 décembre 2014 - 01:49
The better question is why does the game railroad you into being a dumb **** who can't call out Bhelen's schemes.
And the answer to that is "Because the entire Dwarven arc is written in a way that kisses Bhelen's ass and wants you to join in"
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#6
Posté 22 décembre 2014 - 01:56
#7
Guest_Faerunner_*
Posté 22 décembre 2014 - 02:40
Guest_Faerunner_*
Probably for the same reason he betrays a male dwarven noble: to eliminate competition for the throne.
#8
Posté 22 décembre 2014 - 06:12
Yeah, Faerunner has the right of it, Dwarven politics doesn't often care about male or female and Bhelen need to get his "big sister" out of the way just as much as he does his "older brother".
#9
Posté 22 décembre 2014 - 07:38
I always thought that Bhelen eliminates his siblings for both practical and ideological reasons. From his comments on Trian's actions, he seems to think that dwarven social strata and traditions are, at best holding orzammar back or, at worst, contributing to the downfall of dwarven civilization as a whole.
Now, everyone agrees that Trian would make a terrible ruler. Bhelen strongly implies that his brother lacks judgement when he tells the Dwarf Noble how Trian simply "told a crippled boy to get up and make a man of himself". He obviously believes that having a fool like trian on the throne would weaken House Aeducan and Orzammar as a whole.
As for his distrust of his other sibling, it is pretty much implied in the way he lays out his plan. Bhelen's scheme to play his siblings against eachother assumes that the Dwarf Noble is A) unaware of what Trian might truly want to do; B ) unaware of what Trian truly can do; C) unaware of what Bhelen might truly want to do; and D) unaware of what Bhelen truly can do. Since Bhelen does follow this plan, he must believe it can succeed, therefore he also believes that the Dwarf Noble will not be savvy enough to see through it.
The fact that the plan does succeed only confirms Bhelen's belief in his siblings' ignorance and/or incompetence : that he can indeed outplay his siblings, and that he is better suited than both of them for handling power in dwarven politics.
Trian was merely a good soldier; the Dwarf Noble was popular and publicly influential, but it was Bhelen who had the best understanding of dwarven society, and who developed the necessary skills to acquire and maintain power in that context.
I always wondered how long Trian or the Dwarf Noble could have held power in Orzammar anyway. If they both fell to their brother's trick, what would they have done against an entire assembly of professional scheming nobles?
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