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[Cknarf]

I wanna say it's .32 caliber, but I don't know for sure.

[Serza]

I always thought the Vz. 58 with the folding stock was cool.

 

 

The bakelite furniture makes me all tingly, too.  I hear they're popular in Canada, because AKs are deemed too scary looking for purchase up there, or something.

 

And because of import restrictions in the US...

 

We can't get these:

 

 

But Canada can.  Go figure.  It's ugly, and I didn't want one anyways!

 

Woooo. Kosa.

 

While we're on the subject of Czech weapons...

 

I need this.

 

 

Hey, Ho Chi Minh's personal guard is said to have used these, too. Can't be all rubbish. Even though rumors speak of "no accuracy to mention past the first bullet in the burst"

 

Dude what needs that many bullets at 6 yards? lol... whats that thing shoot?  

 

Sometimes, you just NEED to turn someone into swiss cheese. Plus, it's essentially a TEC-9 or Mini UZI, or MP5K with it's intended role.

 

I wanna say it's .32 caliber, but I don't know for sure.

 

Yeah. .32 ACP. 7.65x17mm.

 

Funnily, I don't feel anything towards the pistols created by Zbrojovka Brno.

 

Oooh, that reminds me. Pop quiz! Where does the BREN Light Machine Gun (not the modern garbage designated CZ 805 that could barely even shoot straight if the rumors are to be believed) come from?

[vometia]

Oooh, that reminds me. Pop quiz! Where does the BREN Light Machine Gun (not the modern garbage designated CZ 805 that could barely even shoot straight if the rumors are to be believed) come from?

 

BRno and ENfield, hence the name.   It's pretty much exactly a licence-made ZB vz.26, just rechambered for .303 cordite rounds and a few other tweaks and changes.  I have one lying against the bookcase behind me, though obviously deactivated since "light" machine guns are generally considered impolite to own privately in the UK.

 

I got to carry the 7.62 NATO L4 around for a bit when I was in the Army but sadly never had the chance to fire it.

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

An assault rifle can't get much cooler than this. Come on, how many of you actually know what it is, without checking the picture name?

 

 

 

I've fired with it. The only real weapon I've fired with.

 

I mean the AK-47.

 

The difference between these two must be like a 'Fiat' car that you recolor it and, remove its mark and put a mark called 'Tafi' on it.

 

 

I always thought the Vz. 58 with the folding stock was cool.

 

 

The bakelite furniture makes me all tingly, too.  I hear they're popular in Canada, because AKs are deemed too scary looking for purchase up there, or something.

 

And because of import restrictions in the US...

 

We can't get these:

 

 

But Canada can.  Go figure.  It's ugly, and I didn't want one anyways!

 

Yes. it's ugly. Also it should be uncomfortable to reload this gun.

[Cknarf]

I mean the AK-47.

 

The difference between these two must be like a 'Fiat' car that you recolor it and, remove its mark and put a mark called 'Tafi' on it.

 

 

 

Yes. it's ugly. Also it should be uncomfortable to reload this gun.

 

The Vz. 58, looks very similar to the AK, but it is different internally.  They're all built on milled receivers too, not stamped like most AKs are.

 

Thanks to Russia, most of of the 'ol commie countries ended up with their own version of the AK-47/AKM, all of them functionally identical. Except for he Czechs. They were like "Nah" and ended up going their own way, with the Vz. 58. While it was likely inspired by the AK, it's very different on the inside.

 

Spoiler

 

 

As for bullpup weapons with detachable magazines being uncomfortable to reload, I couldn't say.

 

Bullpup shotguns though?  Hella awkward. Reloading a KSG feels so... unnatural.

[vometia]

The Vz. 58, looks very similar to the AK, but it is different internally.  They're all built on milled receivers too, not stamped like most AKs are.
 
Thanks to Russia, most of of the 'ol commie countries ended up with their own version of the AK-47/AKM, all of them functionally identical. Except for he Czechs. They were like "Nah" and ended up going their own way, with the Vz. 58. While it was likely inspired by the AK, it's very different on the inside.
 

Spoiler

 

That's very interesting: I wasn't expecting a striker-fired design, and the locking system isn't one I recall seeing before. I'll have to take a proper look at that video when my concentration returns from wherever it's currently cavorting.

[The Invader]

This is what I want, the amazing Kriss SMG .45 ACP.

[Serza]

BRno and ENfield, hence the name.   It's pretty much exactly a licence-made ZB vz.26, just rechambered for .303 cordite rounds and a few other tweaks and changes.  I have one lying against the bookcase behind me, though obviously deactivated since "light" machine guns are generally considered impolite to own privately in the UK.

 

I got to carry the 7.62 NATO L4 around for a bit when I was in the Army but sadly never had the chance to fire it.

 

*nod of approval*

 

I approve. Spot-on.

 

I mean the AK-47.

 

The difference between these two must be like a 'Fiat' car that you recolor it and, remove its mark and put a mark called 'Tafi' on it.

 

 

 

Yes. it's ugly. Also it should be uncomfortable to reload this gun.

 

I feel insulted by your description of the Sa vz 58...

 

The Vz. 58, looks very similar to the AK, but it is different internally.  They're all built on milled receivers too, not stamped like most AKs are.

 

Thanks to Russia, most of of the 'ol commie countries ended up with their own version of the AK-47/AKM, all of them functionally identical. Except for he Czechs. They were like "Nah" and ended up going their own way, with the Vz. 58. While it was likely inspired by the AK, it's very different on the inside.

 

Spoiler

 

 

As for bullpup weapons with detachable magazines being uncomfortable to reload, I couldn't say.

 

Bullpup shotguns though?  Hella awkward. Reloading a KSG feels so... unnatural.

 

...because this.

 

This is what I want, the amazing Kriss SMG .45 ACP.

 

I heard the recoil compensation is ripped off from the Vz 61 Škorpión, but... I never really researched it. Clarification welcome, I guess.

[The Invader]

*nod of approval*
 
I approve. Spot-on.
 

 
I feel insulted by your description of the Sa vz 58...
 

 
...because this.
 

 
I heard the recoil compensation is ripped off from the Vz 61 Škorpión, but... I never really researched it. Clarification welcome, I guess.

The bolt slides back then down into the space behind the clip. It helps to alleviate a great deal of the recoil and muzzle climb.

[L. Han]

 

Whether it's forced march or kicking arse, the good ol' boots has always been a soldier's best friend.

[Lunch Box1912]

dry feet are key

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

So it wasn't Tafi, it was Audi... whatever!

 

Now face the deadliest cold weapon ever:

 

 

 

Because Indonesian Smiths used to infuse on them one of the deadliest poisons ever.

[Hellamarian]

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

 

Is that Canadian again?

[Hellamarian]

Is that Canadian again?

 

I don't think so. Regardless, what a sexy assault rifle.

[vometia]

Is that Canadian again?

 
It's the UK's SA80, a rifle with a very chequered history.  Although it's a competent enough weapon now, and is apparently praised for being accurate and reliable, it didn't start that way, the chief remit being to make it on the cheap and which saw the end of the historic armaments factory at Enfield.  After a couple of revisions by Heckler & Koch it was improved into something usable, but it's a pity it had such a long and bumpy journey.  It's essentially an AR18, which caused some understandable irritation with Sterling as they had the licence to make the latter.
 
It's an entirely different weapon to the EM-2 rifle proposed in the 1950s, which was actually a really good design, but considered perhaps too innovative for the time.

[God]

On my first deployment, my baby was the M240B.

[Fidite Nemini]

 
Not only a damn cool weapon concept, but might also come with one of the sexiest reloads (can reloads be sexy?) I've ever seen (which granted, ain't much at all):

 
 
That reload is absolutely legitimate by the way (there used to be a training video demonstrating the reload technique on Youtube straight from a russian ministry, but it's unavailable, at least for me):

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

G3(A3) German Assault Rifle

 

 

 

Old, but still can kick the ass of AK-47 and M4

 

[Fidite Nemini]

If we're talking G3, we've got to be talking FAL too:

 

 

A weapon as ugly as it's deadly.

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

G3 is like the successor to MP44 as the epic German design.

That FAL looks powerful, but it looks like a Dung beetle!

[vometia]

That FAL looks powerful, but it looks like a Dung beetle!

The looks kinda grow on you. Oh alright, it's always going to be fugly, but I'm still quite fond of it.

[bEVEsthda]

G3 is like the successor to MP44 as the epic German design.

That FAL looks powerful, but it looks like a Dung beetle!

 

The G3 is a delayed blowback mechanism, while the MP44 and FAL have the usual gas piston.

But I think the G3 at least was designed by the same people as the MP44, even if they're quite different.

[Cknarf]

Okay, this guy is kind of a weenie, but M240B.

 

 

Concerning the AN-94, I think something similar to its balanced recoil system has made it's way into the latest Kalashnikov rifle.  Supposedly they were going to sell semi-auto versions here, but I think that has changed since the sanctions. Sad face.

 

 

Neat.

[vometia]

I think the MP44 is credited with lots of things, but more a matter of inspiration rather than design; I've also heard so many people claim that Kalashnikov "copied" the design but from what I recall (I'm no expert on the MP44, though) it used a tipping bolt along the lines of the Bren and FAL rather than the AK's rotating bolt, and the rest of the design was probably similarly, er, dissimilar.

The MAG (M240, GPMG etc) is also something I'm bitter about never having a chance to fire! An extremely well-regarded weapon and for good reason too. Interesting heritage, its basic mechanism is the same as the BAR, only inverted, and personally I think that the FN Type D shows a lineage between them. The MAG is obviously much more heavy-duty and also takes advantage of the MG42-style belt-feed, but it's still a BAR at heart.