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#101
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Now let's all laugh at videogames' crap attempts at depicting war axes.

First things first: an accurate war axe.

The head of the axe should be small. You're not looking for the momentum and gravity of a bulky head -- you're not chopping wood. 

 

200px-Decorated_battleaxe.JPG A good example. 

 

S5708_viking_war_axe_600.jpg << Also a good example.

 

200px-Horseman%27s_axe_-_1475.jpg A very good example. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The point to make is that war axes...

 

Were very small. Now compare to what you see in videogames. 


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#102
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I'll just leave this here...

 

 

I am glad he talked about exaggeration. Tatami mats are easy as hell to cut.  


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This geezer makes the ones I posted. He's a cool geezer. 

 

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To create Bronze you have to mix Copper with Tin. Good job by this Jiisan.



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Now let's all laugh at videogames' crap attempts at depicting war axes.

First things first: an accurate war axe.

The head of the axe should be small. You're not looking for the momentum and gravity of a bulky head -- you're not chopping wood. 

 

200px-Decorated_battleaxe.JPG A good example. 

 

S5708_viking_war_axe_600.jpg << Also a good example.

 

200px-Horseman%27s_axe_-_1475.jpg A very good example. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The point to make is that war axes...

 

Were very small. Now compare to what you see in videogames. 

 

Yo. These are real!

 

Battle-axe-image.jpg

 

great_axe_by_starcat42-d4ftb5e.jpg

 

Not the second one!



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M82A1 Barret from Delta Force 1/2.

 

Balder Side Sword from DkS.



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Yo. These are real!

 

Battle-axe-image.jpg

 

 

 

Not the second one!

 

Oh, come on. Look at that thing and say that it looks agile. 


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Now let's all laugh at videogames' crap attempts at depicting war axes.

First things first: an accurate war axe.

The head of the axe should be small. You're not looking for the momentum and gravity of a bulky head -- you're not chopping wood. 

 

200px-Decorated_battleaxe.JPG A good example. 

 

S5708_viking_war_axe_600.jpg << Also a good example.

 

200px-Horseman%27s_axe_-_1475.jpg A very good example. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The point to make is that war axes...

 

Were very small. Now compare to what you see in videogames. 

 

Agreed. Even the two-handed (I suppose polearm would really be a better term for the Danish axe) axes had a relatively small head.

 

I once got into an argument with a friend about how silly axes are in RPGs/movies.

 

I think we should blame Tolkien...

 

Yo. These are real!

 

Battle-axe-image.jpg

 

Not the second one!

 

Yes...they were real...

 

They were decorative weapons only.



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Agreed. Even the two-handed (I suppose polearm would really be a better term for the Danish axe) axes had a relatively small head.

 

I once got into an argument with a friend about how silly axes are in RPGs/movies.

 

I think we should blame Tolkien...

 

 

Yes...they were real...

 

They were decorative weapons only.

 

Tolkien made books, not crap movie props. 



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The sword.

 

The first true weapon.

 

Until then, "weapons" have always been tools that were misappropriated for the means of war. Hunting weapons like the bow and spear, working tools like axes and clubs (think hammer), or short bladed knifes (skinning, processing food). All these are tools who happened to be applicable for war. But the sword is ONLY applicable for war. It's not suited for the hunt, because it's too short. It's not suited for work, because it lacks the punch of the axe, or the nimbleness or practicality of a shorter knife.

 

It is designed with only one focus, to make war.


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^ Halberd is a mixed weapon. So it is also an ONLY applicable for war weapon!

 

A selection of Chinese cold weapons:

 

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I like the first from the right. Very good "halberd".

 

Those two Maces would kick T-Rex ass though!


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This is my favorite weapon, the CF/A-17 Wraith.

 

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My favorite weapon from sci-fi (after Lightsaber):

 

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Don't forget; Sith Lightning!

 

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The sword.

 

The first true weapon.

 

Until then, "weapons" have always been tools that were misappropriated for the means of war. Hunting weapons like the bow and spear, working tools like axes and clubs (think hammer), or short bladed knifes (skinning, processing food). All these are tools who happened to be applicable for war. But the sword is ONLY applicable for war. It's not suited for the hunt, because it's too short. It's not suited for work, because it lacks the punch of the axe, or the nimbleness or practicality of a shorter knife.

 

It is designed with only one focus, to make war.

 

Until then, there were other weapons. Ones that were designed with war and killing in purpose. Most of which had no metal parts. You can say there were ''swords'' when the Bronze Age hit (or iron in some other places). That wasn't as late as you thing. Check these out:

 

100_0866.jpg?t=1258748306

 

Here is a video that says it better than I ever will. 

 


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My favorite knives are...

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Mercworx's Sniper Standard and Equatorian Chili.

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^ Blade is the same, is it not? Only difference is the grip?


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Until then, there were other weapons. Ones that were designed with war and killing in purpose. Most of which had no metal parts. You can say there were ''swords'' when the Bronze Age hit (or iron in some other places). That wasn't as late as you thing. Check these out:

 

100_0866.jpg?t=1258748306

 

Here is a video that says it better than I ever will. 

 

 

 

What you show in the picture are axes and except for the thrid from left, all perfectly capable tools for woodwork. Tools can be used for war, but swords can ONLY be used for war.

 

Have not watched the video, but I suspect the video isn't exactly about weapons that predate the invention of the sword as much as it is about weapons that simply don't use metal, a lot of which can either be tools like axes, spears, knifes, or be of younger origin, or mayhaps fulfill the same role as the sword does in their form as the first true weapon as opposed to being a converted tool.



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Until then, there were other weapons. Ones that were designed with war and killing in purpose. Most of which had no metal parts. You can say there were ''swords'' when the Bronze Age hit (or iron in some other places). That wasn't as late as you thing. Check these out:

 

100_0866.jpg?t=1258748306

 

Here is a video that says it better than I ever will. 

 

 

I blame Hollywood/Fantasy fiction for the whole fascination with swords. I'd rather fight a sword than one of those.

 

What you show in the picture are axes and except for the thrid from left, all perfectly capable tools for woodwork. Tools can be used for war, but swords can ONLY be used for war.

 

Have not watched the video, but I suspect the video isn't exactly about weapons that predate the invention of the sword as much as it is about weapons that simply don't use metal, a lot of which can either be tools like axes, spears, knifes, or be of younger origin, or mayhaps fulfill the same role as the sword does in their form as the first true weapon as opposed to being a converted tool.

 

You take a sword, I'll take the Aztec obsidian bladed club. We'll see who's missing more limbs after the first few strikes...  :rolleyes:

 

I'll also be amused if you try to call it a "tool"...



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You take a sword, I'll take the Aztec obsidian bladed club. We'll see who's missing more limbs after the first few strikes...  :rolleyes:

 

I'll also be amused if you try to call it a "tool"...

 

Have you read the comment you quoted? Hint: onwards from the last comma.

 

And besides, the Macuahuitl predates the Aztecs ... a little trivia fact.



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Have you read the comment you quoted? Hint: onwards from the last comma.

 

And besides, the Macuahuitl predates the Aztecs ... a little trivia fact.

 

It is most attributed to them thanks to the Spanish invasion.

 

The video also covers a number of clubs, all of which were designed for one purpose and that is to inflict harm upon another person. They were not designed to be used as tools. It was not their purpose. They were "legitimate" weapons of war that are not swords.

 

Shockingly, dedicated weapons of war existed before someone made the sword, the god of weapons apparently...  :rolleyes:



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Except that early clubs where little more than large hammers and also used as hammers during peacetimes and only became war-exclusive when their designs began to sophisticate in the later histories ongoing weapon's race against heavy armor.

 

And other clubs that were commonly used widely were the spear throwers with whom hunters would throw their spears (duh) and have gotten optimized as blunt weapons, but still serve as a part of the whole, which still is a hunting weapon by design.



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Repeat: Halberds are also made only for war.



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I would recommend watching the video before saying you haven't watched the video. 

 

Apart from that, those axes are clearly meant for war. It is in the size of the head. You're obviously not going to chop down a tree with one of those. 



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Repeat: Halberds are also made only for war.

 

Hm. Likes polearms. Likes Chinese polearms. 

My favourite of the Chinese polearms:

 

sh2072.jpg The Pudao. 


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Repeat: Halberds are also made only for war.

 

No.

They were originally based on a spear, and a spear is a hunting weapon! So no, it was NOT made only for war like the best weapon in the world, THE SWORD!

 

I would recommend watching the video before saying you haven't watched the video. 

 

Apart from that, those axes are clearly meant for war. It is in the size of the head. You're obviously not going to chop down a tree with one of those. 

 

I'm sure you could...try...maybe...before the axe or your arm breaks.

 

Hm. Likes polearms. Likes Chinese polearms. 

My favourite of the Chinese polearms:

 

sh2072.jpg The Pudao. 

 

I've always wondered how one would actually wield those.