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[Sylvius the Mad]

Oh, nostalgia attack! I first saw a videogame on the PLATO system at the Univ of Illinois, must have been 1975. Snuck out of school (Uni High) with some friends. Was playing some primitive Star Trek simulator on a tiny orange plasma screen in front of a gigantic box of a console--thought it was the greatest thing in the world. Got into "Oubliette" later.

 

Oh yeah, love DAI--the world has come a long way. This has to be the golden age of videogaming.

Just FYI, Oubliette was ported to Android in 2012.  I have it on my phone.

[northsidelunatic]

yes thank you for the game that's less entertaining and interesting then putting  metacritic reviews in a text to speech software and listening to them , which Id advise for a good laugh,

[DetcelferVisionary]

 

It's a unicorn thread.  I've only heard about them in legend.  Where someone actually has something positive to say to Bioware and can take the time out of their day to express it.  These threads by default always get a 'Like' from me.  I'd give more if I could.

[madmantheonly1]

You see, I don't play RPG's for tactical combat. I don't give a rat's patootie about tactical combat in an RPG, I want storyline and interesting characters. If I can also craft some armor & explore an unknown (to me) wilderness that is even better. I grew up on actual RPG's - pen and paper - and when I was playing them you didn't use a map with little figures to determine everyone's location during combat, you just described it and got through it quickly (combat was always a mess) and moved on to the more important bits (roleplaying the negotiations with the duke to get access to the next dungeon). Character customization is nice but not a must have - I've run enough pre-gen tournament characters to be able to make any character I am handed my own.

 

I have played every game Bioware has put out, no I don't like them all. And I am not by any stretch a fanboy. I just wanted to express gratitude to Bioware for making a game I really enjoyed playing. I agree the game has flaws but all games do - I am not going to spend my holidays telling the developer that their game is crap because it doesn't conform to my expectations or games they've made in the past.

 

I will eventually sit down and detail all the items I wanted or would like to see in a sequel. However, I am going to ensure I present it in a thoughtfully written post which doesn't spend too much time using exclamation points or telling Bioware (or anyone else) that they are wrong and need to "fix" things. Presenting my opinion in an inflammatory "do it now" manner almost ensures that it would be ignored.

 

I doubt there are any people with Bioware now that worked on Baldur's Gate 1 or 2 - if there are I am sure they are not large in number. We all have those games we loved in our past - for me System Shock 2 is the best Sci-Fi Horror game I've played but going onto the Bioshock forums and telling Ken Levine that I didn't like the Bioshock series of games and that he needs to make a System Shock 3 now isn't going to do anyone any good (yes I know he is no longer there but that wasn't the point).

 

I mentioned this in my last post, if you are unhappy why continue to be unhappy? I stopped playing the Bioshock series because I didn't care for them. They were good games but not the games I wanted to see from Levine and his team. So I moved on and found other games to play. I am suggesting to the people who are really deeply dissatisfied with Inquisition that they move on because I don't see their hearts being unbroken. 

 

My original post was in direct counter to the amount of negativity that is being expressed by seemingly everyone on these forums, when I look at topic after topic in which people demand changes to a game I feel as if I need to at least stand up and say, "Hey, I enjoyed playing your game. Hope it helps that I told you that." It never was meant as a blanket statement that everything they've ever done or will ever do is perfect. I take issue with their design choices (choose a color) but I have to temper that with how much enjoyment I did derive from their games.

 

I hope this doesn't come out sounding as if I am personally attacking you or that I enjoy lecturing people on how to behave. i am simply trying to express how I behave and wish to communicate my satisfaction/dissatisfaction with a company.

 

Thank you,

 

=Dan

 

hehe, see? it all depends on what you expect from a game. For me, I dont agree fully with either of you and I agree with both of you a bit, just on different issues.

Just like you mentioned that, you (both actually ) grew up on pen and paper rpgs and such, I have never in my life played a pen and paper rpg, nor do I have the deire to, however what I have grew up on was adventure games, and I loved them sooo much. So story is essentially everything for me, but I do like a hint of rpg elements in games, and the fact that my choices matter throughout a story as I play through makes it even better.

Now that being said, my primary issue is that unlike previous bioware games (and im talking here more about the DA and ME franchises) you could almost play as an advanture game with varied amount of rpg elements and action. These games were pretty much the best games I could ever imagine given my style.

Inquisition however is a different breed and I feel like those days when I get my perfect mix from a game is gone Obviously different people have differentneeds and likes and dislikes and it is all ok, why I am dissapointed in DAI has only to do with me expecting a gmae like the previous ones and I didnt get it.

You say you "don't give a rat's patootie about tactical combat", well I have similar feelings towards exploration, but what i do want is immersion. you see I cant do that if i cant follow the main storyline freely. I dont want to pick new curtains for skyhold while there is a bad guy out there, and I dont want to just roam around in a new massive area doing things that have nothing to do with the story inbetween finding an important clue and floowing it (talking about main story here). I cannot "space out" story missions to do some exploration or whatever because for me that breaks immersion into the story, which it did

I could not follow the main story I had to go out and do things I didnt want to do when all I wanted to do is to see what happens next in the main storyline.

So for that, for me the game is a bit of a disappointment, to be honest I already sank twice as much time in the multiplayer than in singleplayer, now unlike single, I have different expecations of multiplayer, that!s all about friends playing together trying to do something, we have fun just because we play together, let it be cod, or da, or wow. 

I dont hate on the story of DAI, although I have to say if I only count story missions (and companion quests) then it is a bit short, and my choices does not seem to have too much effect on anything later on (apart from very very few), even ME3's not-too-original war asset system had a slight effect in the end, but in DAI it is practically 0, it means absolutely nothing for the end  (or ongoing) what you have done in these big areas, what you have and havent explored, or how many small rifts you actually closed or not. And all this makes me not wanting to do any of it It would have been so easy to link things together, like the more small rifts you close in the areas, the weaker the endboss fight would be, or less or more adds coming depending on something, whatever...

So again that just shows that we are all different

[Vox Draco]

It's a unicorn thread.  I've only heard about them in legend.  Where someone actually has something positive to say to Bioware and can take the time out of their day to express it.  These threads by default always get a 'Like' from me.  I'd give more if I could.

 

[overburning]

So rare to see a positive thread, so let me add my thank you here as well. I have issues with the game (eg. I think open world takes away depth of side contents, I expected more interaction between past characters, especially Hawke and Varric), but I have been playing this game non-stop at the expense of my social life, so I think I like this game quite a bit? Thanks Bioware for crafting this amazing adventure with your trademark characters and diversity!

[Missy_MI]

Replying to this thread to add my own thanks and feedback. I figured it might be helpful to include specific examples of things I liked from my own play through, so the long, rambling response is in spoiler tags. You have been warned!

 

Spoiler

Exploration

I'm a huge fan of exploration in games and Inquisition definitely hits the mark for me in that regard. I love how varied the locations are and the environments look amazing. The Emerald Graves is probably my favorite area - I ignored all the quests just to wander around staring at the lovely trees for like twenty minutes.   My second favorite is Val Royeaux. It's like stepping into an old painting and is ridiculously beautiful down to the gold leaves sprinkled by some of the doors.

 

Also, unlocking new areas as part of war table missions is super cool! Specifically, I remember looking around Emprise du Lion and noticing these Colosseum-style buildings in the distance and thinking to myself how amazing they looked and how I wished they were more than just background art.... Then I happened upon the broken bridge you can fix with a war table mission and realized I could actually get there. Freaking awesome.

 

Last specific example: I immensely enjoyed the 'haunted' Villa in Emerald Graves. When the first lamp lit up by itself, I was all freaking out to my computer screen and Cole said something creepy like 'it knows we're here'. I love Cole so much, but he is not the party member you want in a horror-style setting. What do you mean it knows we're here?! Ha ha, loved it.

 

 

Heroism

I really felt like a hero playing the Inquisitor. I know some folks aren't so into the 'go kill 10 rams' quest, but I really liked knowing that even small tasks were part of trying to make an actual difference. And that difference is shown both by how other characters respond and also by the environment changes. It's a pretty good feeling to quell the mage/templar fighting in the Hinterlands and then those random fights don't happen anymore. Sure you'll see red templars or something else pop up later, but it still demonstrates player impact.

 

The whole sequence defending Haven and getting to Skyhold felt incredibly epic. Same with the scene before the Arbor Wilds. It was cool seeing the forces you'd recruited gathering up. On the way to the Temple of Mythal, I felt so proud of the mages standing on a bridge fighting the red templars below. Yeah, those are my mages!

 

On a smaller scale, after the Crestwood resolution, I suppose having the dawn break and the rain stop is a little cliche, but I still loved that it happened.

 

 

Characters

One of my favorite things about the Dragon Age series is the interaction with the companion characters and Inquisition does not disappoint. The dialog, personal stories, and voice acting are top notch, as always, but what I didn't expect was how much the companions surprised me.

 

I'd sort of written off certain characters in the beginning like Blackwall and Vivienne, and was pleasantly surprised (or horrified) as more of their personality and history were revealed (we are not even going to talk about Solas). This made the characters a lot more interesting and part of the reason I was excited to do a second play through of the game. Hearing Iron Bull basically call out Blackwall from the beginning in a party banter was awesome.
 

Also, I like that there is more to party banter than just flavor, especially if Cole is there, and that the relationships between the characters may change based on the story events that take place. For example, I loved that Solas and Iron Bull develop a kind of friendship if Bull becomes Tal-Vashoth. Their chess match conversation is one of my favorites.

 

 

Non-verbal Storytelling

Not sure if it's the new game engine or what, but I found myself paying as much attention to character body language and facial expression for communication as the actual dialog and voice acting. The specific example that jumps to mind is a bit heart-wrenching, but the way Solas's eyes become sad just before he breaks the Inquisitor's heart into tiny pieces was incredibly well done. Also: 

 

Another example I remember is when the Inquisitor meets Sera for the first time, one of the dialog options is something like 'You sound like a thief acting out petty revenge fantasies' and Sera's facial expressions in response are awesome.

 

 

Hidden Stuff

There is a ton of lore information in the game for the player to discover. The unreadable codex entries revealed after drinking from the Well of Sorrows is fantastic. One fan recently found hidden backwards audio messages during some of the scenes. It's super fun speculating about what is going to happen next and discovering info that was purposefully placed into the game.

 

 

Girl Power

One of the reasons BioWare games have remained among my favorites for years is that, as a female myself, I can play a female character and still feel completely immersed in the world. There are no awkward pronoun mishaps in the dialog or an unrealistically proportioned, scantily-clad woman who's obviously meant to be the 'real' love interest.   Seriously, I know some folks roll their eyes at the romances, but I still think having any content not specifically geared for straight men is pretty amazing.

 

Also, it was a wonderful feeling to look around the Inquisition war table and see a bunch of strong, amazing women in positions of power. Cassandra, Leliana, and Josephine aren't there as window dressing, they are there because they are capable. So thank you!

 

I could go on but this is too looooong already! Thanks for an amazing game!

[Eivuwan]

I just want to show my support to Bioware! I agree with many of the criticisms, but overall it is clear that they put a lot of effort into this game and I love it. It's worth it just for Solas. Here is a link to a thread I made about all the reasons why I love the game: http://forum.bioware...bout-this-game/

[Awills]

 

It's a unicorn thread.  I've only heard about them in legend.  Where someone actually has something positive to say to Bioware and can take the time out of their day to express it.  These threads by default always get a 'Like' from me.  I'd give more if I could.

 

I thought a unicorn was a game that was not released before it was ready. Oh wait ... or is it a rare mystical beast. I forget!

[robertthebard]

/signed