Sexual harassment- a real problem for women, but inconsequential and trivial for any real man.
Not at all actually. Thing is, what a man calls sexual harassment isn't the same as what a woman calls sexual harassment. Sexual harassment is purely reliant on what the individual is uncomfortable with, and men aren't as likely to feel uncomfortable with flirting from members of the opposite sex.
That's the truth.
Not at all actually. Thing is, what a man calls sexual harassment isn't the same as what a woman calls sexual harassment. Sexual harassment is purely reliant on what the individual is uncomfortable with, and men aren't as likely to feel uncomfortable with flirting from members of the opposite sex.
That's the truth.
Because they're manly men. And real men aren't weak little ****** to feel uncomfortable with groping and harassment, because if they did they'd be less than grown men.
So Cullen is Pathetic now for not wanting to be touched by people.Wow, I literally just wrote a post on the Solas thread about those comments. I was assuming it was a Solas sex scene, with him being... who he is, and all.
Geez, the Orlesians mobbing Cullen is not rapey, and if that's really what Cole is referring to, then Cullen is frankly pathetic. I don't think he is pathetic. This thread, on the other hand...
Because they're manly men. And real men aren't weak little ****** to feel uncomfortable with groping and harassment.
Lol you can be sarcastic all you want, but the majority of men don't feel uncomfortable with female advances.
Like I said, Old lady commenting on a man's looks, we just think it's cute and adorable. An old man does it, we think it's creepy as hell, usually. Though not always.
You can dismiss it all you want, but this is something we guys ourselves reinforce.
In the real world, 9 times out of 10, a man's not gonna go crying to his blog about how lots of people flirted with him and someone touched his ass. It's not the same for us.
And that has nothing at all to do with the fact that he'd be attacked for it and have his very gender identity and sexual orientation derided and denied? A Real Man™ can take it, a Real Man™ is always up for it, a Real Man™ would man up and suck it up, a Real Man™ can't be scared or hurt ... Example after example in this thread alone. People here couldn't possibly illustrate my point any better.
Yes, most men have far less reasons to feel immediately, physically threatened by unwanted sexual advances than most women do, but men do get harassed, they do get raped, and they do suffer both as a result of the crime itself and of the shitty way others treat them for it. There's no excuse for that. Nor is there is a "real man" or "real woman", with everyone not matching these stereotypes being no more than an irrelevant outlier who should be ignored. Biology and especially socialization play a part, but they do not erase individuality or the right for everyone to have boundaries and have them respected.
Once again: it's worse to mistreat someone who is more vulnerable than one who is less so, and I don't think anyone here has said otherwise. But that does not mean the less-vulnerable person should be silent because they can "take it". It also does not mean vulnerability is only a matter of physical strength or size -- as I said before, that is often not even the primary factor in sexual harassment (or worse).
So Cullen is Pathetic now for not wanting to be touched by people.
Not wanting to? No. Being afraid and emotional over it if true, lol, yea.
I will
Male muscles developing differently than females to make them stronger's a fact of life. There was a video of this woman with huge arms losing strength tests to average looking dudes and I was rather amazed at how much of that muscle on her seemed useless. Not that a woman can't beat a man in a close up fight. My mom has, lol, but averagely, that isn't something I'd feel safe letting my girls rely on. Ronda Rousey fights in a setting where there are rules.
The gun is known as the world's greatest equalizer for a reason. The bullet doesn't hesitate, the bullet doesn't need training. All it needs is a finger to pull the trigger.
Because men getting harassed should like it after all.Because they're manly men. And real men aren't weak little ****** to feel uncomfortable with groping and harassment, because if they did they'd be less than grown men.
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Read ahead in thread, I already addressed that. Yea they'd get ridiculed, but first you'd have to find a man that's actually upset over it in the first place. Seeing as how I was in a situation like that, I know. We're not all the same of course, but I'd still know better than a woman on how men feel when flirted with in this manner.
Men do get raped, yes, but we aren't afraid of this actually happening, especially by females. Only time this is really something of an issue is in jail.... Now THAT is a whole different story.
Outside of that, we just don't think about flirting the same way you do generally.
Ronda straight crushed 4 dudes at a movie theatre, google it, she's a judo world champ and spars with guys on the regular, I'm a confident guy and all, but she's a killer. I wouldn't fight her.
Lol I'm not confident that my daughters will be a Ronda. I'll stick with my guns, so to speak, lol.
So your saying socially awkward man should just take being gropedNot wanting to? No. Being afraid and emotional over it if true, lol, yea.
He is, if as some in this thread think, he thinks he's being "hunted" because somebody grabbed his ass at a ball. Come on. The guy's a general for god's sake.So Cullen is Pathetic now for not wanting to be touched by people.
So your saying socially awkward man should just take being groped
Is a socially awkward man going to even get groped? Lol.
He has hands and arms and a mouth. If he doesn't like it, express it.
It Orlais and part of The Game to be watched 24/7 so yeah I would hate that eviroment.He is, if as some in this thread think, he thinks he's being "hunted" because somebody grabbed his ass at a ball. Come on. The guy's a general for god's sake.
And get a court disproval or get us kicked out of the ball yup that the ticket.Is a socially awkward man going to even get groped? Lol.
He has hands and arms and a mouth. If he doesn't like it, express it.
You're not going to get through to them, Killabee. They will see what they wish to despite the probable reality of the situation. People want to be overly sensitive about absolutely nothing, let them.
It Orlais and part of The Game to be watched 24/7 so yeah I would hate that eviroment.
As would I. Just like I hate the church environment. They're also very intruding on your personal space.
And get a court disproval or get us kicked out of the ball yup that the ticket.
I was talking about the socially awkward part, but as for Cullen, yea he better suck it up. We're trying to save lives here. Don't see me crying about my hurt feelings when the Venatori try killing me or when people don't think I'm the Herald of Andraste. But I guess Cullen's more important because deh harassmentz waz sooooo meanzz.
You're not going to get through to them, Killabee. They will see what they wish to despite the probable reality of the situation. People want to be overly sensitive about absolutely nothing, let them.
Oh I'm aware, but they want to shut people's opinion down by trying to make us look like assholes and I'm not going to let them. How is anyone going to tell me how my gender works better than me? They're going to have to face reality sometime, so I don't mind banging the truth stick over their skulls.
I'm sick and ****** tired of people trying to be offended on my behalf.
edit: And as for the men going along with it, they already know what I'm saying is true when we're talking about the majority, and this situation specifically.
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Yes yes and murder is as common ( kids included ) as sexual harassment in the real world why arent you offended when that happens in DA ? surely thats a more serious matter than someone getting their butt pinched. Your logic i do not understand it .
You know, sometimes flirting is just that, flirting. You don't need to turn every instance of unrequited love into some dreary Lifetime drama film of sexual harassment.
They were flirting at him, he's well within his means to tell them no. And it's pretty well understood that Orlesians are outright obsequious when they want to get something.
It seems some people define sexual harassment as being flirted by someone you're not attracted to. Stop blowing things out of proportion.
I don't think the SJWs can understand that simple flirting isn't something immediately serious like rape.
I blame society's attitude of "Everyone's a victim." And if you encourage someone not to be a victim, you're victim blaming or enabling the offender. Lol.
No wonder my brother's generation is so helpless. The kids nowadays are sooo reliant on their parents and teachers, man. Public schools are poison.
And that has nothing at all to do with the fact that he'd be attacked for it and have his very gender identity and sexual orientation derided and denied? A Real Man™ can take it, a Real Man™ is always up for it, a Real Man™ would man up and suck it up, a Real Man™ can't be scared or hurt ... Example after example in this thread alone. People here couldn't possibly illustrate my point any better.
Yes, most men have far less reasons to feel immediately, physically threatened by unwanted sexual advances than most women do, but men do get harassed, they do get raped, and they do suffer both as a result of the crime itself and of the shitty way others treat them for it. There's no excuse for that. Nor is there is a "real man" or "real woman", with everyone not matching these stereotypes being no more than an irrelevant outlier who should be ignored. Biology and especially socialization play a part, but they do not erase individuality or the right for everyone to have boundaries and have them respected.
Once again: it's worse to mistreat someone who is more vulnerable than one who is less so, and I don't think anyone here has said otherwise. But that does not mean the less-vulnerable person should be silent because they can "take it". It also does not mean vulnerability is only a matter of physical strength or size -- as I said before, that is often not even the primary factor in sexual harassment (or worse).
Well said. I'll point out I agree with this, express my dislike of various cultural gender double-standards, and respectfully take my leave.
Because men getting harassed should like it after all.
Totes. It's not offensive or humiliating, it's a privilege to be proud of!
Well said. I'll point out I agree with this, express my dislike of various cultural gender double-standards, and respectfully take my leave.
Totes. It's not offensive or humiliating, it's a privilege to be proud of!
You can dislike them all you want, but they didn't just appear out of nowhere. Peace.
Cullen is mocking the Game prior to the ball, but at the ball he turns all angsty about it? I don't think so.It Orlais and part of The Game to be watched 24/7 so yeah I would hate that eviroment.
Read ahead in thread, I already addressed that. Yea they'd get ridiculed, but first you'd have to find a man that's actually upset over it in the first place.
A lifetime of heavily gendered socialization can affect people on some very deep levels, even those of us who were always misfits and knew that we aren't, can't be and don't want to be what gender (or other) stereotypes tell us we must be.
Look, I'm not saying everyone is equally affected by every instance of unwanted sexual advances (or whatever). Or that we should be. Or that there's no big difference in ways or degrees. Or that most men feel at risk like most women do. I just loathe this notion that anyone -- be it a man, a woman or someone between or outside -- should ever feel they have to "be able to take it" or "be grateful for it" or face ridicule or worse. That attitude doesn't help anyone except the harassers. I wouldn't want things to get as ugly for men as they often are for women before a guy can maybe, possibly, if he's lucky, be "allowed" to feel and express discomfort.
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