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[EmissaryofLies]

Why is it that every time someone disagrees with this SJW bs, someone somewhere wants to silence their voice?

 

Because equality and fairness.

[Vox Draco]

FIFTEEN pages on this? Okay, it's a free world we live in ...

 

And just in case nobody has yet posted it on these FIFTEEN pages already I fullfill this duty now:

 

[dragonflight288]

Because equality and fairness.

 

And because we're allowed to equally voice our opinions until our opinion is different from theirs, and then we're like Animal Farm. All of us are equal but some of us are more equal than others. lol. 

[Monica21]

Had to throw in my little spice there, lol.

 

And those fans have my gratitude, because I actually have a character I want to romance for the first time in a DA game.    And I'm totally fine letting him get hit on by weird Orlesians.

[London]

all in i think it was a joking refferance to Cullenites.
but guys get sexualy harrased all the time and it gets laughed off. 
i garontee if it was Lelliana it would be a big deal.

Actually I would have loved to see anyone try to harass Leliana. They would be dead by morning. And that would be without there needing an option for anyone to step in to save her lol.

[Cantina]

Oh boy! Isnt this not a touchey subjects <sighs>.

 

To answer the OP question is it sexual harrassment? Well it depends. If your talking about REAL life, then I suppose it could be considered as such. However this is a game, the world of Thedas. No such assult really exists.

 

This whole thing with the nobels and Cullen did not bother me. Nor did it make me cry, “Sexual Assult.” Why? Quite simply because I know, well most of the lore behind the Dragon Age world and can easily separate reaility from fantasty.

 

With the Orlais this type of behavior in public is considered normal. Someone like Cullen, whose from Ferelden would be uncomfrotable since most of the time any type of affection is generally done in private. This lends credence to the fact of how Cullen is not generally open with his affections towards your Inquisitor in public.

 

Anyone who is from one country that has a certain edicit of how to show affection in public and being tossed in another country who is open about it, would cause an air of uncomfortablness. Perhaps for you and Cullen.

 

Considering how most of us are familiar with the “close door affections” from previous games (the countries we were within) being tossed into a country who throws all those rules out the window, no doubt would send eyebrows raising and gasps of shock.

 

I for one found the whole thing to be funny, not offensive, funny. Here is poor Cullen, who was raised to be respectful of sexual intentions within public and instead is being put on the spot with openly sexual Orlisians.

 

Personally, if someone finds something with in the game that is offesnsive to them, by all means voice your opinion, but try to do an objective view on it before crying wolf.

[frylock23]

Oh but Social Justice is a marvelous tool for politicians! Just think, it is basically the philosophy that says we need to pass laws to create "fairness" by advantaging victims to the disadvantage of others. Then, what always happens is that those laws that are supposed to create "fairness" create unintended consequences that create new "victims" by either advantaging others more than they were supposed to or disadvantaging some more then they were supposed to. Then, the politicians step in on the side of the new "victims" and advocate for new laws to create even more "fairness" to fix problems that their own laws created in the first place.

 

And somewhere in all of this, we all slowly lose our liberties on a slow march to a Utopia we will never reach because it's impossible to create in the first place.

 

The only ones who win are the politicians who create all kinds of power for themselves to tell all the rest of us, victims and the rest, how to live and very likely make a lot of money in the bargain.

[Ascendra]

Yeah I'd rather taken an approval hit and gotten them to bugger off too.

So you would get in a catfight with bunch of soft nobles to defend your man?
Im sure the Orlesian court would love it.

[Ryzaki]

So you would get in a catfight with bunch of soft nobles to defend your man?
Im sure the Orlesian court would love it.

 

Pfft of course. ZE DRAMAZ.

[Call Me Jord]

Ah this looks like an interesting topic lets just-

 

 

Well then.

 

Spoiler

But Merry Christmas

[Monica21]

Oh but Social Justice is a marvelous tool for politicians! Just think, it is basically the philosophy that says we need to pass laws to create "fairness" by advantaging victims to the disadvantage of others. Then, what always happens is that those laws that are supposed to create "fairness" create unintended consequences that create new "victims" by either advantaging others more than they were supposed to or disadvantaging some more then they were supposed to. Then, the politicians step in on the side of the new "victims" and advocate for new laws to create even more "fairness" to fix problems that their own laws created in the first place.

 

And somewhere in all of this, we all slowly lose our liberties on a slow march to a Utopia we will never reach because it's impossible to create in the first place.

 

The only ones who win are the politicians who create all kinds of power for themselves to tell all the rest of us, victims and the rest, how to live and very likely make a lot of money in the bargain.

 

Kinda reminds me of that South Park episode where they're arguing about hate crimes, and then come to the conclusion that all crime is a hate crime.

[Decepticon Leader Sully]

And yet, Cullen continues to not be real. It is very likely a riff of Cullenites however, since Cullen is still not real, wouldn't you also have to apply the same scrutiny to that scene as you do to the forum thread itself?

never said he was real thus my not giving 2 you know whats.

but my point still stands.

[Monica21]

never said he was real thus my not giving 2 you know whats.

but my point still stands.

That guys get sexually harassed and it gets laughed off? If that was the point you were making, I never claimed otherwise.

[Wissenschaft 2.0]

There is a bit of a sense of "you survived being tortured by demons and have commanded an army cutting down mages and templars and helped deal with a dragon, and you're scared of the little Orlesian lady who pinched your bum" and it is quite cute that someone can be fearless on the battlefield and petrified in a ballroom. Still think Quizzy should have been able to rescue him though, or at least told him to go stand with Cassandra. No-one's getting away with bum-pinching with Cass around

 

In fact, Cassandra ends up punching a wall and thats just from nobles talking to her. Those Orleasians quickly learned to watch how they talk to her. lol

[Decepticon Leader Sully]

Yep.

but any hoo enougth of the SJW crud im off to have fun. 

[Jaderail]

I saw the bits with Cullen, I was not offended at all. Sure, not everyone will find it funny, but this thread has just taken it *way* too far. I think you are reading into it far more than it should be read into. It's a simple jest, many of the people attending that ball were terrible people, they kill and manipulate for the Game. The women who were hounding Cullen were simply flirting with him, he was more than capable of walking away if he couldn't handle it. 

 

Besides, how is this any different than the scene in DA:O city elf story? That was far more controversial a subject - but it was not unrealistic, and adds much to the feeling of the situation. I don't know why people feel so compelled to complain about things that happen in real life being portrayed in fiction. It is very unlikely that someone is going to suddenly act deviously because they saw it happen in the game. It's more likely to bring up questions and inquiries about how people might be treated in certain situations. 

 

If it really bothers or offends you that much, don't watch/play/etc. it. 

[Monica21]

Yep.

but any hoo enougth of the SJW crud im off to have fun. 

 

I just want to point out that I never pulled the SJW card on anyone. I just had an opinion and shared it.

[Decepticon Leader Sully]

Never said you did. simply that im out. 

[Wulfherth]

If it was a female character that was Cullen's place in this situation we'd be getting the feminists foaming their mouths from rage.

Yes it's all fun and games when we humiliate a male or make him uncomfortable. **** feminists.

[Colonelkillabee]

If it was a female character that was Cullen's place in this situation we'd be getting the feminists foaming their mouths from rage.

Yes it's all fun and games when we humiliate a male or make him uncomfortable. **** feminists.

This post confuses me, lol. You read the thread? I know it's 15 pages, but this isn't an accurate portrayal of what's going on at all, lol.

[crimzontearz]

This post confuses me, lol. You read the thread? I know it's 15 pages, but this isn't an accurate portrayal of what's going on at all, lol.

he is not everentirely wrong....I said something similar earlier...

[Wulfherth]

This post confuses me, lol. You read the thread? I know it's 15 pages, but this isn't an accurate portrayal of what's going on at all, lol.

Really? So say if Cullen was female and the same thing happened, as in ass grabbing and uncomfortable and uninvited groping by those nobles.

Let me tell you what would go down:

1. Feminists yell rape and go apeshit on twitter, and petition Bioware to patch it or take the game down.

2. The retarded media would swallow all this **** spewing from these mega misandrists, and sensationalize the further proof that gamers are all closet rapists.

No one makes a fuss when men are sexually harassed because everyone assumes we're simply loving it no matter how we get it.

Double standards.

[Colonelkillabee]

Lol what I mean is, the people that are saying they're offended in this thread also seem like they'd be outraged by the reverse. It's actually the non feminists that aren't offended here, and I know that because I'm friends with several of them.

 

I personally have even been defending the double standards in a way. Double standard assumes that any given situation is one size fits all, and that isn't the case for sexual harassment.

[Wulfherth]

Sorry for ranting. This is something that has affected a close friend and completely wrecked his life.

Everytime I think of the smug faces of the bitches that hurt him, I feel an unholy amount of hatred. These women actually think they did the world a service by deliberately humiliating a male.

No one believes it when a man says he was raped.

I'm serious, he got laughed in the face. I had to stay over at his place because he was on suicide watch. The biggest fucked up thing is that even his SO didn't believe him.

Yeah, sorry again for raging..

[Colonelkillabee]

Well, to clarify since I was arguing on the side of this generally not being a big deal for men, I'm not saying men don't get raped, or that it's not a big deal when they are. That attitude that men always want sex and always like sex is indeed ****. But, it's all very uncommon unless we're talking prisoners of war or jail, and that's from other men. Outside of that environment, most guys don't think about them getting raped from females, hence why female flirting isn't taken as negatively as male flirting.