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Was anyone else bothered by the nobles' treatment of Cullen at the ball?


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Yeah I know in Halamshiral, but when? I never saw this and I played through the game 5 times. :P I heard war table banter about suitors after the winter palace, but that was it. No gluteus grabbings or sexual harassment. 

....how do you have the time? :o  the game has been out for barely a month? o.O


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....how do you have the time? :o  the game has been out for barely a month? o.O


I felt guilty about the 80 hours I've spent on this game in a little over a month lol

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I have never seen so many annoying SJW's gathered in one place. Get over it.



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I have never seen so many annoying SJW's gathered in one place. Get over it.

This very forum is their sanctuary and a shrine, heretic.



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This very forum is their sanctuary and a shrine, heretic.

Pfft you guys think this is bad clearly you have never been to tumblr



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I felt guilty about the 80 hours I've spent on this game in a little over a month lol

 

I've spent about 20...granted I only started really playing the game last week.  And I did one eight hour push-a-thon.  But....man.  

I have never seen so many annoying SJW's gathered in one place. Get over it.

As someone who is usually a little sensitive over this issue I feel this is a bit...odd.  Granted I suppose I find the whole idea of the thread to be a little odd but there we go. :P  It all boils down to whether or not the nobles in question are fangirling, or just...going...'can we do the funky chicken?'  'no' 'come on please, please please'.  



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Oh get over yourselves......



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Cant say I'm surprised. Orleisians like raping people anyway, so this is the closest thing they could do to him in public

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To answer the OP, yes the scene did bother me. 


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Ridiculous how people make mountains out of mole hills.


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At best a playful shot at a large fanbase ment in humour or at worst a bad joke

(Proud cullenite opinion)

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I answered this already in my post above, but long story short, you better get ready to just except double standard sometimes. They're not going anywhere, and a lot of the time, they exist for actual practical reasons that people just don't want to consider because they are unfair. But men were not created equal. Contrary to popular belief.

 

Yes evolution is true and yes women were at a much higher risk in primitive time. PRIMITIVE. in a freaking cave, with no cohesive society, with no law enforcement, with no affordable means of self protection and where most things were done based on evolutionary biological instincts.

 

In Thedas this is clearly not the case. These is some form of governance, people are not living in caves and they have magic, daggers, grenades, etc to protect themselves.

 

Apologies but I am not going to be a primitive white knight tradcon mangina championing for and justifying double standards. Evolution did make us who we are but we are capable of going above and beyond the chains and baggage of evolution. Its called living in the 21st century. In Dragon Age, its called living in Thedas, a world with magic and daggers. 

 

Deal with it. Get used to it. 



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At best a playful shot at a large fanbase ment in humour or at worst a bad joke

(Proud cullenite opinion)


Yah I'd agree this was really to see Cullen in a new situation for the fans, somewhere he's totally out of place without sword and templar shield. I was romancing him at the time and thought it was cute to hear the remark. Not offended in the least, but it may be cuz I've been to so many clubs and bars where I've had this happen, and if I freaked out every time, I'd have crawled into a hole and forsaken society. People will flirt, people will grope, people will be gross, it's a flipping party!

Moving on then...
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Yes evolution is true and yes women were at a much higher risk in primitive time. PRIMITIVE. in a freaking cave, with no cohesive society, with no law enforcement, with no affordable means of self protection and where most things were done based on evolutionary biological instincts.

 

In Thedas this is clearly not the case. These is some form of governance, people are not living in caves and they have magic, daggers, grenades, etc to protect themselves.

 

Apologies but I am not going to be a primitive white knight tradcon mangina championing for and justifying double standards. Evolution did make us who we are but we are capable of going above and beyond the chains and baggage of evolution. Its called living in the 21st century. In Dragon Age, its called living in Thedas, a world with magic and daggers. 

 

Deal with it. Get used to it. 

 

Check the statistics of any college campus, big city, or even small towns. 

 

Primitive hasn't gone anywhere. 

 

EDIT: I guess the point is, respectfully, that human nature hasn't changed, and it won't change because we live in the 21st century and not the 14th century. Boys will still be boys, girls will be girls, teenagers will feel like they're on top of the world and everyone but them is wrong about the facts of life. Hormones haven't disappeared by the miraculous passing of time, and pigheadedness is just as prominent today as it was among the time-periods I studied in History.

 

As Mark Twain satirically said, "At 14, I was lamented how little my parents knew. At 21, I was astonished to find out how much they learned in 7 years."


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Yah I'd agree this was really to see Cullen in a new situation for the fans, somewhere he's totally out of place without sword and templar shield. I was romancing him at the time and thought it was cute to hear the remark. Not offended in the least, but it may be cuz I've been to so many clubs and bars where I've had this happen, and if I freaked out every time, I'd have crawled into a hole and forsaken society. People will flirt, people will grope, people will be gross, it's a flipping party!Moving on then...

thats how i saw it
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Friendly reminder for our dear BSN ladies:

 

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funny, the way i thought of it, was he was doing his job, keeping the nobles from finding out that we are sneaking in alot of soilders... and if it requried him to get his ass pinched and be put into a socially awkward situation, that it was fine.

 

I'm not there to right the wrong's of socity i'm there to get soilders to CLOSE A TEAR IN THE SKY and to prevent the demon armies from flowing into the world. If all it takes is for a few underlings to get there bums pinched, thats a seriously small price to pay for it.


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You're the one getting hot and bothered over a video game scene. If anyone has issues to deal with, that's you pal, not me ;)

 

Man's biggest folly is they still think they're anything more than primitive monkeys with their hands on the nuclear launch key. Arrogance. At our core, we are primitive. Hence why double standards based on life outside of society still exists. What happens when society falls and your way of life crumbles? You'll thank God that you have a backup code to fall to.

 

Does it excuse certain behavior, no, but you'll live life a lot more care free when you're not getting pissed every time a dog doesn't always wait to crap on the outside. Society is still pretty damn shitty, no matter what we're wearing nowadays.


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And **** me, people are dying and being turned into monsters. Excuse me for not worrying about Cullen's finely chiseled ass being pinched while I'm trying to stop that ****. LOL.


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Sound the alarm! here come the Tumblr SJW sexual harassment police again!!


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My issue is we are taking real world context into a fantassy 'medeival' world. I would have thought the issues of sexism/harassment wouldn't have been seen as an issue in those times , be it male or female. But creators have to walk carefully around the 'I am offended' crowd

 

I’m not sure why it’s so difficult to see that nobody really took offense to the inclusion of the scene, or demanded it be removed etc. It clearly has a place in the story. Just as the killings and deep road kids and whatnot, this is a Bad Thing that was included. It’s fine.

 

The only thing in which I’m personally disappointed are the comments that trivialize the occurrence, because they obviously reflect a real-world position. That’s not cool. Harassment is harassment. That’s all.

 

 

(Also, more people are probably capable of relating on a personal level to sexual harassment than decisions about leaving children to be eaten by evil zombie creatures. Guess which is more commonplace in our experience?)


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#172
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In the real world, 9 times out of 10, a man's not gonna go crying to his blog about how lots of people flirted with him and someone touched his ass. It's not the same for us.


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#173
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Geez, Conan, not all woman are going to do that either.  ;)



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I always just figured it was a reference to Cullen's giant fanbase, and it amused me. 

 

And seriously - the first time you flirt with Cullen, you are basically doing the exact same thing to him as all the people at the ball - really, who goes up to a co-worker and asks them if they took a vow of celibacy, in the middle of the day, surrounded by all his soldiers? So if the they're guilty of sexual harassment, so's the Inquisitor. 


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Geez, Conan, not all woman are going to do that either.  ;)

True, true. But in that instance, it's sometimes because they're afraid to bring it up for some reason. I as a guy think for men, we just simply wouldn't care. It's just a different dynamic.

 

Women could cat call at men in the street if they wanted to. We wouldn't care. Do the reverse, and a lot of women find it gross and inappropriate, though of course not all. How many guys do you think are gonna say "Omg I'm so disgusted, that woman said she wanted to sleep with me and wear me out like a new saddle." ?


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