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Btw, I feel like we need AlanC9 here. Alan, please?



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So when Josephine gambles with copper pieces during the scene where she, Cullen, and your party members all play cards, she isn't actually gambling with copper pieces?

 

They're not cut from the game when they're in a scene in the game.

 

I had looked forward to seeing Royals and Crowns from the famous Orlais, so I find it disappointing to see the curency of Dragon Age devolved into simple nth gold coins :(



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Hello fangirl, how're you doin'? Having a nice day I hope?

 

I guess me correcting someone for being objectively, factually wrong means I'm a "fangirl". Never mind that I'm a guy.

 

Except they are only in that scene - and since (at least my) Inky goes round looting bodies houses etc of the poorest of the poor in the Hinterlands etc, you'd expect to find currency other than the sovereigns.... which you don't.

Which has to do with...?



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I guess me correcting someone for being objectively, factually wrong means I'm a "fangirl". Never mind that I'm a guy.

 

Which has to do with...?

No, not at all! Your inability to read is what makes you a fangirl. That and your generic 'everything is fine all else is a blasphemy' attitude.
Okay, I'll break it into few lines to make things look easier:

1. DA:I has a monetary system. You can earn money to buy things you like in shops.

2. DA:I has only 1 type (tier) of currency available - gold coins...

3. ...while the previous games had three. And it was perfectly fine.
4. DA:O and DA2 take place in the very same universe as DA:I. Yet prices are different (VERY DIFFERENT) in DA:I. Which isn't explained.


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Going to a default use of 'girl' as part of an insult seems like it's rooted in some kind of gender bias problem to me.



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Which has to do with...?

 

The fact that they left it in the scene means either it was a mistake when taken in line with what they've done with the currency - which is sloppy work.
Or that the currency streamlining its self is a mistake and should have reflected the scene - which is also sloppy work.


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I don't really understand why this is an issue worth mentioning.  In terms of gameplay it doesn't really change anything, in terms of story it is a very minor point at best, so this is about... aesthetics?  To me it seems comparable to the fact that the hairstyles from the previous games aren't all available.  It might elicit a disappointed "hmph" but I can't imagine it being upsetting enough to post about it.  Especially considering all the other things that need improvement and could be lobbied for.



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I don't really understand why this is an issue worth mentioning.  In terms of gameplay it doesn't really change anything, in terms of story it is a very minor point at best, so this is about... aesthetics?  To me it seems comparable to the fact that the hairstyles from the previous games aren't all available.  It might elicit a disappointed "hmph" but I can't imagine it being upsetting enough to post about it.  Especially considering all the other things that need improvement and could be lobbied for.

Well, it's isn't a matter of gameplay feature that is gravely needed. I give you that.

However immersion is a fragile thing. It's already broken in DA:I into pieces and this part - generic useless gold - is adding insult to injury.


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I don't really understand why this is an issue worth mentioning.  In terms of gameplay it doesn't really change anything, in terms of story it is a very minor point at best, so this is about... aesthetics?  To me it seems comparable to the fact that the hairstyles from the previous games aren't all available.  It might elicit a disappointed "hmph" but I can't imagine it being upsetting enough to post about it.  Especially considering all the other things that need improvement and could be lobbied for.

 

The currency is a small detail that adds consistency to the Dragon Age universe, adds a sense of coherence to the story from the previous games, and gives the monetary system its own personal charm, which sets it apart from other RPG's out there.

 

Sure it's a minor complaint to mention how currency has been simplified, but if I was asked which monetary system I prefer: Origins/DA2 or Inquisiitons, I'd say Origins/DA2. Not that it's extremely important, I'd just have prefered the original monetary system ;)


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I suppose I always (including back in Origins) looked at it as a gameplay mechanic, something to assign value to items/decisions, rather than an actual aspect of the lore.

 

I guess I can see what you mean though.  Different strokes and all that I suppose.


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I live in Canada. Back, in 2012, the Royal Canadian Mint discontinued production of our country's penny. Having read this thread, I now wish I'd emailed the government something along these lines:

"Dear Canadian Government,

You're discontinuing our penny?!? Please don't! Don't dumb down our currency! You'll ruin our immersion!"

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I live in Canada. Back, in 2012, the Royal Canadian Mint discontinued production of our country's penny. Having read this thread, I now wish I'd emailed the government something along these lines:

"Dear Canadian Government,

You're discontinuing our penny?!? Please don't! Don't dumb down our currency! You'll ruin our immersion!"

That's a little bit different thing there... IRL currency is inflating like hell last years, and the actual cash is giving it's life space to plastic cards. So it isn't dumbing down. Not really.

 

I'd be satisfied with getting Bank Thethras International card to make shopping in DA:I though.


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That's a little bit different thing there... IRL currency is inflating like hell last years, and the actual cash is giving it's life space to plastic cards. So it isn't dumbing down. Not really.


I was being facetious.

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I was being facetious.

Nevermind then. BSN got me used to explain every little detail in vague hope for people understanding.



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I live in Canada. Back, in 2012, the Royal Canadian Mint discontinued production of our country's penny. Having read this thread, I now wish I'd emailed the government something along these lines:

"Dear Canadian Government,

You're discontinuing our penny?!? Please don't! Don't dumb down our currency! You'll ruin our immersion!"

 

You're a funny guy, he's a funny guy. Your last joke, not so much though. Come again.



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You're a funny guy, he's a funny guy. Your last joke, not so much though. Come again.


Lighten up.

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Lighten up.

 

Your joke was bad. You're suggesting that getting rid of 1 old redundant unit of currency would be comparisable to removing an entire monetary system.

 

What happened to sovereign, silver, bits, copper, royals, crowns etc., ? All of the currencies of Ferelden and Orlais suddenly replaced with gold, no explanation. Sure we see a little copper in some cutscenes, but all we get to 'play with' is gold, even poor bandits have masses of gold as their loot wtf?

 

I can still buy 228 axes in Origins for the same price as 1 axe in Inquisition, and I have an abundance of gold making Hawke look like a vagabond.

 

It's a minor complaint for sure, but it's feedback nonetheless that this change of simplification is weird.


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Your joke was bad.

That’s fine. I'm not defending the quality of the joke. Nor is it the first time I've been heckled.

But again I was just being flip, and for someone who has referred to this subject as "minor" and "not extremely important", you come across as being rather defensive about it. I mean, you went to the effort of debating my "point" above even after I'd already indicated that I wasn't actually serious.

So, yeah. Lighten up.

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That’s fine. I'm not defending the quality of the joke. Nor is it the first time I've been heckled.

But again I was just being flip, and for someone who has referred to this subject as "minor" and "not extremely important", you come across as being rather defensive about it.

 

Eh?  :blink: As compared to my defensiveness of features such as auto-attack and custom tactics? LOL  :lol:  No, had it not been for your post my feedback in here would've been done. I'll check back with the thread later, maybe someone found a crumbled note stating how the Dwarven Merchants' Guild struck gold or something.

 

With that said, I have an awesome RPG to play, Inquisition :wub:



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They explained this as that because you're the leader of an organisation. You don't deal in anything less than gold

Just want to say, if my leader was paying 10,000 copper for an elfroot, I'd look for a new leader. 

That's either government corruption or idiocy to the point it's unforgiveable. The price of that elfroot could feed a peasant family for six months.


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I live in Canada. Back, in 2012, the Royal Canadian Mint discontinued production of our country's penny. Having read this thread, I now wish I'd emailed the government something along these lines:

"Dear Canadian Government,

You're discontinuing our penny?!? Please don't! Don't dumb down our currency! You'll ruin our immersion!"

I'm canadian also, and they discontinued the penny... I mean, holy crap, this would be like if we had a denomination that was worth $100 and they discontinued the penny AND dollars, and a candybar cost $100 to buy.

Inflation does not make sense... and just dealing in gold as the inquisitor means the inquisitor spends enough to buy a castle on a single blueprint. And not even a good blueprint.



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Just want to say, if my leader was paying 10,000 copper for an elfroot, I'd look for a new leader. 

That's either government corruption or idiocy to the point it's unforgiveable. The price of that elfroot could feed a peasant family for six months.

 

Best line I've read lately. It's brilliant. Seriously.
Shame I can't like this comment like 10 times.



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Joining the voices saying "Inq doesn't deal in less than gold" as silly. Mostly because in DAO a legendary was 50g. Here they're more like 8000g. Rates of inflation in Thedas are really out of control.



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Just want to say, if my leader was paying 10,000 copper for an elfroot, I'd look for a new leader. 

That's either government corruption or idiocy to the point it's unforgiveable. The price of that elfroot could feed a peasant family for six months.

Look, if you have to make a point about the gold amounts. Dont quote me, I don't care I just repeated what bioware stated were the reasons for doing it.



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I don't really understand why this is an issue worth mentioning.  In terms of gameplay it doesn't really change anything, in terms of story it is a very minor point at best, so this is about... aesthetics?  To me it seems comparable to the fact that the hairstyles from the previous games aren't all available.  It might elicit a disappointed "hmph" but I can't imagine it being upsetting enough to post about it.  Especially considering all the other things that need improvement and could be lobbied for.

 

 

People looking for things to be upset about.